AAA - Ask Autechre Anything - Sean and Rob on WATMM!

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:10 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:40 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:23 PM, MisterE said:

related to your reply to i believe it was awe's question about the NSA to which you said it (spying) was a necessary phase-

 

so in the nearish future when brain implants, chips that allow you to connect your brain directly to your computer are available, will either/both of you say 'damn the torpedoes' (in this case the torpedoes being the american gov and possibly other govs recording every thought you have in a secret facility somewhere, and organizing all the data into various cross-referenced, instantly searchable databases, to be used in who knows what ways), and go ahead and get one so you can control your max patches directly with your brain waves? assuming you don't already. is that what you meant by saying the NSA stuff is part of a necessary phase? that all of this is inevitable, that all of our brains are going to be under direct monitoring by gov/commercial entities but that we have to accept that if we want the cool shit like robot servants that bring us our tea when we think about tea, or being able to compose tracks with our thoughts like raymond scott wanted to do?

 

nah

i don't know why everyone is focusing so much on the nsa

everyone's at it, all spying on each other

it's not like some nice neat pyramid, it's like a web

 

in the future we're gonna be so much more networked than this, even the concept of monitoring will be totally antiquated

what do you think of this quote by raymond scott

 

  Quote

 

 

 

• "Perhaps within the next hundred years, science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. The composer will sit alone on the concert stage and merely 'think' his idealized conception of his music. Instead of recordings of actual music sound, recordings will carry the brainwaves of the composer directly to the mind of the listener." —Raymond Scott, 1949

Haha, god yeah that could get well messy. Nice sentiment though, but i like the spot we're at right now, i like ppl climbing into the bass bins at gigs, and ppl on balconies jostling for the best sweet spot.....

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:56 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 7:05 PM, Schlitze said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:40 PM, Schlitze said:

Word up, Ae. I recently found a few of your old radio mixes on my old Compaq desktop PC (XFM, Breezeblock and Solid Steel), it was great to hear them again (big chunks of Wendy Carlos and Hafler Trio on that Breezeblock Mix :-D). I know you guys do the massive webcast marathons but does it work differently for the radio output? does the station come to you and you post them a CD of a half hour mix? And are you inundated with requests for this type of stuff in the lead up to an album release?

yeah sometimes its like that for outside radio programmers, we get quite busy with requests when we announce a new record.

 

In the lead up to Draft being released you did a mix for Radio 3: Mixing it and a mix for Mary Anne Hobbs. The Radio 3 mix was full of bombastic dance beats which almost left the presenters speechless, while the Radio 1 mix was more cultured/refined. It was almost as if the two CD's had got mixed up in the mail and went to different areas in the BBC. I thought that was a nice touch :-D

 

 

cheers

yeah we thought a show called mixing it should get a mix where we're really 'mixing it'

and MAH i mean, yeah playing dockstader and wendy carlos on a usually trendy show just made sense somehow

 

I bloody knew it :-D Thanks for confirming that, Sean

I recall a robocop sample at the end of it. It was too much for the presenters

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:09 PM, hoggy said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:11 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 12:00 AM, hoggy said:

What do you think might be the effect of extreme cerebral stimulation of listening to for example especially long tracks on Exai? Especially when that stimulation is hard to vocalise or simply emote to or physically express?

 

For example, sometimes when I really love something and find it intangibly stimulating, I find that I have no way to express it to people (a description can't really express 'that thing') - do you ever get this kind of frustration? Do you think it might effect how someone thinks, behaves, feels?

 

To try to clarify a bit more - I'm talking about extreme stimulation with no real world counterpart - that thing where something just 'does something' you can't explain it.

tbh it's only frustrating in a third party kind of way

like, if i'm seeing someone trying to explain to someone else what's good about a track and they end up resorting to ill-fitting metaphor or cliche-speak

but in terms of us, and process, or playing rob stuff, nah, u can just tell if someone is getting it, there are a ton of unconscious signals i think. or i feel, i mean

 

That makes sense, but I meant that I sometimes get an impulse to act (don't you?), driven by something inspiring, but because of the strange nature of the inspiration, there's no way to act on it, there's nothing that correlates in the real world - it's like watching a film containing the secrets of life but made by aliens, and totally connecting with it it, but then having no way to apply it

 

It's the impulse to act on it more than the desire to explain it verbally I was talking about more

 

It's like that thing Francis Bacon said:

 

“Supposing I was satisfied with what I did? How can you be satisfied, because everything escapes you. You know that perfectly well. You know that even if you’re in love with somebody, everything escapes you. You want to be nearer that person, but how can you cut your flesh open and join with the other person? It’s an impossibility to do."

 

There you go Ae, one of the victims of your musical output.

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:17 PM, sergeantk said:

Any experience with anxiety disorders? Some AE is so disassociating that it induces a state similar to the total dissociating feeling I get during severe panic attacks, such as Cfern.

Apologies for that, honest, but i find most tracks we do more comforting than a panic attack.

  On 11/4/2013 at 9:19 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

were you guys inspired by the production methods of older dub music for Exai? One of the distinct differences between that album and the other before it is the overwhelming use of various delays/flangers/reverbs. A good example is how at one point in Irlite the snare sounds almost like it's entirely made up of some kind of flanger noise from being automated at a quick rate. Also tons of cavernous reverb bursts, which you guys have been doing since Confield arguably, but on Exai there seems to be a distinct focus on some of these classic effects (but not being used in classic contexts always). Things being fed into the effects, especially the delays and then having the delay line suddenly stop (like in the ending of newbound) are techniques i've not heard in earlier autechre.

not directly, our ref points are a bit different, we grew up on stuff like duke bootee, d-train, egyptian lover. they were doing weird things with drums, processing them in tasty ways, but the music wasn't like totally about that the way that dub is. i don't even know if it came from dub directly for them either i think my life in the bush of ghosts was really the record that made a lot of that stuff happen, at least in nyc anyway.

but yeah if u wanna find stuff that's influenced us listen to tons of 80s hip hop, it might become more obvious if you let your blinkers down for a minute

I'll be seeking damages for the effect that Parhelic Triangle had on my mental state then.

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:18 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:10 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:40 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:23 PM, MisterE said:

related to your reply to i believe it was awe's question about the NSA to which you said it (spying) was a necessary phase-

 

so in the nearish future when brain implants, chips that allow you to connect your brain directly to your computer are available, will either/both of you say 'damn the torpedoes' (in this case the torpedoes being the american gov and possibly other govs recording every thought you have in a secret facility somewhere, and organizing all the data into various cross-referenced, instantly searchable databases, to be used in who knows what ways), and go ahead and get one so you can control your max patches directly with your brain waves? assuming you don't already. is that what you meant by saying the NSA stuff is part of a necessary phase? that all of this is inevitable, that all of our brains are going to be under direct monitoring by gov/commercial entities but that we have to accept that if we want the cool shit like robot servants that bring us our tea when we think about tea, or being able to compose tracks with our thoughts like raymond scott wanted to do?

nah

i don't know why everyone is focusing so much on the nsa

everyone's at it, all spying on each other

it's not like some nice neat pyramid, it's like a web

 

in the future we're gonna be so much more networked than this, even the concept of monitoring will be totally antiquated

what do you think of this quote by raymond scott

 

  Quote

 

 

• "Perhaps within the next hundred years, science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. The composer will sit alone on the concert stage and merely 'think' his idealized conception of his music. Instead of recordings of actual music sound, recordings will carry the brainwaves of the composer directly to the mind of the listener." —Raymond Scott, 1949

 

Haha, god yeah that could get well messy. Nice sentiment though, but i like the spot we're at right now, i like ppl climbing into the bass bins at gigs, and ppl on balconies jostling for the best sweet spot.....

 

Sweet spot on a balcony where all bass cumulate into mud and mids bounce like crazy? Sweet spot is definitely a subjective term then! :D

  On 11/4/2013 at 9:25 PM, futureimage said:

Rob + Sean: What are your favourite analogue filters for sound synthesis? (This is for a uni paper I'll be writing over the next few weeks)

 

Also, Reproduction or Travelogue?

travelogue but only cos i had that first for years

i dunno about filters i don't have a fave really, i'll use anything

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:26 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:18 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:10 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:40 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:23 PM, MisterE said:

related to your reply to i believe it was awe's question about the NSA to which you said it (spying) was a necessary phase-

 

so in the nearish future when brain implants, chips that allow you to connect your brain directly to your computer are available, will either/both of you say 'damn the torpedoes' (in this case the torpedoes being the american gov and possibly other govs recording every thought you have in a secret facility somewhere, and organizing all the data into various cross-referenced, instantly searchable databases, to be used in who knows what ways), and go ahead and get one so you can control your max patches directly with your brain waves? assuming you don't already. is that what you meant by saying the NSA stuff is part of a necessary phase? that all of this is inevitable, that all of our brains are going to be under direct monitoring by gov/commercial entities but that we have to accept that if we want the cool shit like robot servants that bring us our tea when we think about tea, or being able to compose tracks with our thoughts like raymond scott wanted to do?

 

nah

i don't know why everyone is focusing so much on the nsa

everyone's at it, all spying on each other

it's not like some nice neat pyramid, it's like a web

 

in the future we're gonna be so much more networked than this, even the concept of monitoring will be totally antiquated

what do you think of this quote by raymond scott

  Quote

 

 

 

• "Perhaps within the next hundred years, science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. The composer will sit alone on the concert stage and merely 'think' his idealized conception of his music. Instead of recordings of actual music sound, recordings will carry the brainwaves of the composer directly to the mind of the listener." —Raymond Scott, 1949

Haha, god yeah that could get well messy. Nice sentiment though, but i like the spot we're at right now, i like ppl climbing into the bass bins at gigs, and ppl on balconies jostling for the best sweet spot.....

Sweet spot on a balcony where all bass cumulate into mud and mids bounce like crazy? Sweet spot is definitely a subjective term then! :D

Yeah theres something for everyone when u throw a huge acoustic space into the scenario.

  On 11/4/2013 at 9:53 PM, billybrown said:

Have you used Beap? It's a modular environment for Max/MSP. List of modules is great (continually expanding), has the +/- 5 volt eurorack standard, CV can be controlled via MIDI, and other nice features.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTZsZ5hn2Q

 

https://github.com/stretta/BEAP

 

https://github.com/stretta/BEAP/wiki

no i've never seen it

it looks a bit high level, but it's a cool idea for people new to max i suppose

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:31 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:26 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:18 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:10 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:40 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:23 PM, MisterE said:

related to your reply to i believe it was awe's question about the NSA to which you said it (spying) was a necessary phase-

 

so in the nearish future when brain implants, chips that allow you to connect your brain directly to your computer are available, will either/both of you say 'damn the torpedoes' (in this case the torpedoes being the american gov and possibly other govs recording every thought you have in a secret facility somewhere, and organizing all the data into various cross-referenced, instantly searchable databases, to be used in who knows what ways), and go ahead and get one so you can control your max patches directly with your brain waves? assuming you don't already. is that what you meant by saying the NSA stuff is part of a necessary phase? that all of this is inevitable, that all of our brains are going to be under direct monitoring by gov/commercial entities but that we have to accept that if we want the cool shit like robot servants that bring us our tea when we think about tea, or being able to compose tracks with our thoughts like raymond scott wanted to do?

nah

i don't know why everyone is focusing so much on the nsa

everyone's at it, all spying on each other

it's not like some nice neat pyramid, it's like a web

 

in the future we're gonna be so much more networked than this, even the concept of monitoring will be totally antiquated

what do you think of this quote by raymond scott

  Quote

 

 

• "Perhaps within the next hundred years, science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. The composer will sit alone on the concert stage and merely 'think' his idealized conception of his music. Instead of recordings of actual music sound, recordings will carry the brainwaves of the composer directly to the mind of the listener." —Raymond Scott, 1949

Haha, god yeah that could get well messy. Nice sentiment though, but i like the spot we're at right now, i like ppl climbing into the bass bins at gigs, and ppl on balconies jostling for the best sweet spot.....

Sweet spot on a balcony where all bass cumulate into mud and mids bounce like crazy? Sweet spot is definitely a subjective term then! :D

Yeah theres something for everyone when u throw a huge acoustic space into the scenario.

 

or an outdoor space

Could you recommend an essential record in your opinion that most of us might now know?

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:19 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:09 PM, hoggy said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:11 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 12:00 AM, hoggy said:

What do you think might be the effect of extreme cerebral stimulation of listening to for example especially long tracks on Exai? Especially when that stimulation is hard to vocalise or simply emote to or physically express?

 

For example, sometimes when I really love something and find it intangibly stimulating, I find that I have no way to express it to people (a description can't really express 'that thing') - do you ever get this kind of frustration? Do you think it might effect how someone thinks, behaves, feels?

 

To try to clarify a bit more - I'm talking about extreme stimulation with no real world counterpart - that thing where something just 'does something' you can't explain it.

tbh it's only frustrating in a third party kind of way

like, if i'm seeing someone trying to explain to someone else what's good about a track and they end up resorting to ill-fitting metaphor or cliche-speak

but in terms of us, and process, or playing rob stuff, nah, u can just tell if someone is getting it, there are a ton of unconscious signals i think. or i feel, i mean

 

That makes sense, but I meant that I sometimes get an impulse to act (don't you?), driven by something inspiring, but because of the strange nature of the inspiration, there's no way to act on it, there's nothing that correlates in the real world - it's like watching a film containing the secrets of life but made by aliens, and totally connecting with it it, but then having no way to apply it

 

It's the impulse to act on it more than the desire to explain it verbally I was talking about more

 

It's like that thing Francis Bacon said:

 

“Supposing I was satisfied with what I did? How can you be satisfied, because everything escapes you. You know that perfectly well. You know that even if you’re in love with somebody, everything escapes you. You want to be nearer that person, but how can you cut your flesh open and join with the other person? It’s an impossibility to do."

 

 

There you go Ae, one of the victims of your musical output.

 

i think bacon's assuming some things about death there

Do/did you play any 'traditional' instruments like guitar, drums, etc... yourself before you started with electronic gear ?

An old friend of a friend from Manchester, who claimed to know you, told me this story about you being on a plane - around the Chiastic Slide era, maybe on tour - dipping mics into cups to get an interesting effect. Did this actually happen or was he talking out of his arse?

this is the best interview i ever saw

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:17 PM, blos said:

Over-thought question time: one of the main differences between "early Ae" and "later Ae" is the tension between rhythm and arrhythm - at least that's one of the main things I get. Obviously "flutter" was consciously in that vein but it wasn't a major part of the toolkit until maybe cichlisuite / chiastic / envane. At least that's how it seems to me. Obviously we all like a massive 4/4 boom-bap, and that's like junk food when you guys do it well (e.g. 6IE.CR, IO, 1 1 is, etc) but my very favourites (e.g. Pencha, Osla for n) seem to scatter beats around like confetti while a steady pulse runs invisibly through it.

Oh yeah, the question. How does that come about? Is it usually programmed? Some kind of time-scatter algorithm that you push right up to the bleeding edge of rhythm v chaos? Micro-editing? Played live and tweaked?

The reason I ask is that it's probably the number one thing I like about Ae and the most difficult to describe.

various ways, sometimes it's all programmed step by step, sometimes played in, and sometimes defined in advance and then run off in realtime (i guess you could call that algorithmic)

my spellcheck was turning realtime into teatime then

Are you familiar with early Belgian electronic music like Front 242, Neon Judgement and did it influence you in any way ?

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:32 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 9:53 PM, billybrown said:

Have you used Beap? It's a modular environment for Max/MSP. List of modules is great (continually expanding), has the +/- 5 volt eurorack standard, CV can be controlled via MIDI, and other nice features.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTZsZ5hn2Q

 

https://github.com/stretta/BEAP

 

https://github.com/stretta/BEAP/wiki

 

no i've never seen it

it looks a bit high level, but it's a cool idea for people new to max i suppose

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:31 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:26 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:18 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:10 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:40 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:23 PM, MisterE said:

related to your reply to i believe it was awe's question about the NSA to which you said it (spying) was a necessary phase-

 

so in the nearish future when brain implants, chips that allow you to connect your brain directly to your computer are available, will either/both of you say 'damn the torpedoes' (in this case the torpedoes being the american gov and possibly other govs recording every thought you have in a secret facility somewhere, and organizing all the data into various cross-referenced, instantly searchable databases, to be used in who knows what ways), and go ahead and get one so you can control your max patches directly with your brain waves? assuming you don't already. is that what you meant by saying the NSA stuff is part of a necessary phase? that all of this is inevitable, that all of our brains are going to be under direct monitoring by gov/commercial entities but that we have to accept that if we want the cool shit like robot servants that bring us our tea when we think about tea, or being able to compose tracks with our thoughts like raymond scott wanted to do?

nah

i don't know why everyone is focusing so much on the nsa

everyone's at it, all spying on each other

it's not like some nice neat pyramid, it's like a web

 

in the future we're gonna be so much more networked than this, even the concept of monitoring will be totally antiquated

what do you think of this quote by raymond scott

  Quote

 

 

• "Perhaps within the next hundred years, science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. The composer will sit alone on the concert stage and merely 'think' his idealized conception of his music. Instead of recordings of actual music sound, recordings will carry the brainwaves of the composer directly to the mind of the listener." —Raymond Scott, 1949

Haha, god yeah that could get well messy. Nice sentiment though, but i like the spot we're at right now, i like ppl climbing into the bass bins at gigs, and ppl on balconies jostling for the best sweet spot.....

Sweet spot on a balcony where all bass cumulate into mud and mids bounce like crazy? Sweet spot is definitely a subjective term then! :D

Yeah theres something for everyone when u throw a huge acoustic space into the scenario.

 

 

or an outdoor space

 

Yeah I mean, with abstract music (your music) one can really benefit from inaccurate acoustics - interesting experiences may occur. I have unfortunately never been to your show so can't tell but I was pretty disappointed how most of my favourite bands sounded live. Sometimes I was even unable to recognize what track is playing at all and it was not because of them jamming unexpectedly - it was shit mix and acoustics basically.

Do you guys dig slow drone/ambient/minimalist type stuff?

Perlence Subrange 6-36 was certainly a step in this direction, would ever consider doing more stuff like it or was this just a dabble?

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:14 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

how much influence if any did Farmers Manual's work have on you guys?

I know the terms 'idm' and 'glitch are rather crass these days but are there any pioneers of this genre that you feel laid important ground for future music?

i'd say less than ramon

i dunno i mean no one i know uses that term so i don't even know what artists qualify. i always think of general magic tho when someone says it

really i guess it means yasunao, which i mean, well he's fucking brilliant isn't he

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:41 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:32 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 9:53 PM, billybrown said:

Have you used Beap? It's a modular environment for Max/MSP. List of modules is great (continually expanding), has the +/- 5 volt eurorack standard, CV can be controlled via MIDI, and other nice features.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTZsZ5hn2Q

 

https://github.com/stretta/BEAP

 

https://github.com/stretta/BEAP/wiki

 

no i've never seen it

it looks a bit high level, but it's a cool idea for people new to max i suppose

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:31 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:26 PM, Jev said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:18 PM, Rob Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:10 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 10:40 PM, Sean Ae said:

 

  On 11/4/2013 at 6:23 PM, MisterE said:

related to your reply to i believe it was awe's question about the NSA to which you said it (spying) was a necessary phase-

 

so in the nearish future when brain implants, chips that allow you to connect your brain directly to your computer are available, will either/both of you say 'damn the torpedoes' (in this case the torpedoes being the american gov and possibly other govs recording every thought you have in a secret facility somewhere, and organizing all the data into various cross-referenced, instantly searchable databases, to be used in who knows what ways), and go ahead and get one so you can control your max patches directly with your brain waves? assuming you don't already. is that what you meant by saying the NSA stuff is part of a necessary phase? that all of this is inevitable, that all of our brains are going to be under direct monitoring by gov/commercial entities but that we have to accept that if we want the cool shit like robot servants that bring us our tea when we think about tea, or being able to compose tracks with our thoughts like raymond scott wanted to do?

nah

i don't know why everyone is focusing so much on the nsa

everyone's at it, all spying on each other

it's not like some nice neat pyramid, it's like a web

 

in the future we're gonna be so much more networked than this, even the concept of monitoring will be totally antiquated

what do you think of this quote by raymond scott

  Quote

 

 

• "Perhaps within the next hundred years, science will perfect a process of thought transference from composer to listener. The composer will sit alone on the concert stage and merely 'think' his idealized conception of his music. Instead of recordings of actual music sound, recordings will carry the brainwaves of the composer directly to the mind of the listener." —Raymond Scott, 1949

Haha, god yeah that could get well messy. Nice sentiment though, but i like the spot we're at right now, i like ppl climbing into the bass bins at gigs, and ppl on balconies jostling for the best sweet spot.....

Sweet spot on a balcony where all bass cumulate into mud and mids bounce like crazy? Sweet spot is definitely a subjective term then! :D

Yeah theres something for everyone when u throw a huge acoustic space into the scenario.

 

 

or an outdoor space

 

 

Yeah I mean, with abstract music (your music) one can really benefit from inaccurate acoustics - interesting experiences may occur. I have unfortunately never been to your show so can't tell but I was pretty disappointed how most of my favourite bands sounded live. Sometimes I was even unable to recognize what track is playing at all and it was not because of them jamming unexpectedly - it was shit mix and acoustics basically.

 

yeah the last tour was completely dry nord stuff so we were mixing it differently every night to make the room give us the reverb and echo, every room sounded different

edit: actually rob had some verbs in the g2 as well

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:38 PM, 30equals said:

Do/did you play any 'traditional' instruments like guitar, drums, etc... yourself before you started with electronic gear ?

Not really, just the kind of stuff primary schools put in front of you.

i've noticed recently in your music there is a 'fractal' like quality to some of the sound manipulation.

for example those high end pad sounds on Y7, the bassline sound on Treale and most recently that twirly little white noise sound in Osla for n. Was this a conscious decision to somehow create an audible sound that conveys a fractal pattern?
Have you ever attempted to use a shepard tone like LFO controller to control parameters of sounds/synths/effects?

I'd love to hear a track of yours which is a bare sound in this vein, like some kind of barber-pole shepard tone drone AE track.

edit: and side question, what's your favorite thing to make a tuned/melodic delay on? Nord? they seem to be particularly good for that. Glad to see this sound making a come back on tracks like Spl9 and Tac Lacora.

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:42 PM, soundwave said:

Do you guys dig slow drone/ambient/minimalist type stuff?

 

Perlence Subrange 6-36 was certainly a step in this direction, would ever consider doing more stuff like it or was this just a dabble?

yeah def

i mean that kind of happened cos that loop had been already going for hours just as a kind of ambient relaxation thing and we decided to capture it for a bit

that happens a fair bit tbh, i might do a 5 bpm mix of a track just for myself, or set it off running and just leave it on for a bit while i do stuff

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:39 PM, Sean Ae said:

various ways, sometimes it's all programmed step by step, sometimes played in, and sometimes defined in advance and then run off in realtime (i guess you could call that algorithmic)

 

my spellcheck was turning realtime into teatime then

 

How hard is it to hit the spot, just a feel thing? Or trial and error?

  On 11/4/2013 at 11:38 PM, Panoptic Sweep said:

An old friend of a friend from Manchester, who claimed to know you, told me this story about you being on a plane - around the Chiastic Slide era, maybe on tour - dipping mics into cups to get an interesting effect. Did this actually happen or was he talking out of his arse?

Yeah i think thats true, i remember that. airplane service plastic cups, small stereo clip on a wire sony mic ( plug in power kind) . It spins by itself as u lower it inside the cup giving u good results.