goDel Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Huh!? You start off with giving him academic credentials when talking about music, but when he talks about TH you discredit his opinion because he has no connection with the album? He is an academic, right? You wouldn't argue that a doctor should only treat people he's familiar with too, right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOS Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I guess I respect the guy for his academic writings but not for this particular record critique. Well, a doctor should only treat people's diseases he's qualified for or fall under his area of expertise. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Academia is what killed jazz. Musicians should dip into academia only as skeptical outsiders keen on learning some tricks but then leave promptly, hopefully unscathed by its sterility and dogma. Many of my friends entered Berklee as feral artists and came out as career-minded technicians, their punk playfulness replaced by OCD-grade adherence to tradition. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 The album is ok, bit disapointing (or pretty disapointing considered it was a 7 year wait). Don't shoot the messenger. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertolt Brechtakt Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I bet he only wrote the review to include this little section that shows his jazz pianist cleverness. "The tracks are dressed up in a lot of ponderous synth pads, synth melodies, synth arpeggios, synth ostinati, synth wind. A lot of chord progressions that oscillate slowly from a minor tonic to the major seven chord built on its sixth, " Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bertolt Brechtakt's signature Hide all signatures Warp30 anyone? A 4-hour selection. Amon Tobin megamix sonic gravity pull in 3, 2, 1... FSOL turns 26 megamix. Auauauaaaaaaaaaaaauaua Boards Of Canada are soooo lush. Shhhhhhhhhhh hhuuuuhuuuu haaaaa! Best of Jega BaBooooooom! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 3:16 PM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: I bet he only wrote the review to include this little section that shows his jazz pianist cleverness. "The tracks are dressed up in a lot of ponderous synth pads, synth melodies, synth arpeggios, synth ostinati, synth wind. A lot of chord progressions that oscillate slowly from a minor tonic to the major seven chord built on its sixth, " It's funny to hear someone like him try to explain BoC chord progressions and completely miss the point. Let met say again that there is nothing disappointing about TH, and if you are disappointed in it you are just not open enough. You are failing yourself. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertolt Brechtakt Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:43 PM, sheatheman said: On 12/3/2013 at 3:16 PM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: I bet he only wrote the review to include this little section that shows his jazz pianist cleverness. "The tracks are dressed up in a lot of ponderous synth pads, synth melodies, synth arpeggios, synth ostinati, synth wind. A lot of chord progressions that oscillate slowly from a minor tonic to the major seven chord built on its sixth, " It's funny to hear someone like him try to explain BoC chord progressions and completely miss the point. that's exactly what i meant. in particular with this section, he is just showing off. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bertolt Brechtakt's signature Hide all signatures Warp30 anyone? A 4-hour selection. Amon Tobin megamix sonic gravity pull in 3, 2, 1... FSOL turns 26 megamix. Auauauaaaaaaaaaaaauaua Boards Of Canada are soooo lush. Shhhhhhhhhhh hhuuuuhuuuu haaaaa! Best of Jega BaBooooooom! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2099832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 On 12/4/2013 at 12:23 AM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: On 12/3/2013 at 9:43 PM, sheatheman said: On 12/3/2013 at 3:16 PM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: I bet he only wrote the review to include this little section that shows his jazz pianist cleverness. "The tracks are dressed up in a lot of ponderous synth pads, synth melodies, synth arpeggios, synth ostinati, synth wind. A lot of chord progressions that oscillate slowly from a minor tonic to the major seven chord built on its sixth, " It's funny to hear someone like him try to explain BoC chord progressions and completely miss the point. that's exactly what i meant. in particular with this section, he is just showing off. As someone who is interested in both music theory and grammar, I don't understand whose sixth he is referring to by "its." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2100684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/5/2013 at 11:46 PM, LimpyLoo said: As someone who is interested in both music theory and grammar, I don't understand whose sixth he is referring to by "its." As someone who share shares your interests, Grammatically: I agree that I'm not sure what the antecedent to "its" is. Structurally, in that clause, the "sixth" is possessed by "the major seven chord," which has a 1, M3, 5, M7, but no 6. Musically: I think it is some vague neapolitan inversion reference but I'm not even sure. The major seven chord as a general term? The major seven chord relative to aeolian? Which one? There are 2 pure M7 chords in the minor scale, ionian and lydian. The chord that does appear often is the diminished seventh, relative to major- Reach for the Dead, Sick Times, Come to Dust- but I don't know how to apply what he said to that observation. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2100730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriorion Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/5/2013 at 11:46 PM, LimpyLoo said: On 12/4/2013 at 12:23 AM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: On 12/3/2013 at 9:43 PM, sheatheman said: On 12/3/2013 at 3:16 PM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: I bet he only wrote the review to include this little section that shows his jazz pianist cleverness. "The tracks are dressed up in a lot of ponderous synth pads, synth melodies, synth arpeggios, synth ostinati, synth wind. A lot of chord progressions that oscillate slowly from a minor tonic to the major seven chord built on its sixth, " It's funny to hear someone like him try to explain BoC chord progressions and completely miss the point. that's exactly what i meant. in particular with this section, he is just showing off. As someone who is interested in both music theory and grammar, I don't understand whose sixth he is referring to by "its." On 12/6/2013 at 12:54 AM, sheatheman said: As someone who share shares your interests, Grammatically: I agree that I'm not sure what the antecedent to "its" is. Structurally, in that clause, the "sixth" is possessed by "the major seven chord," which has a 1, M3, 5, M7, but no 6. Musically: I think it is some vague neapolitan inversion reference but I'm not even sure. The major seven chord as a general term? The major seven chord relative to aeolian? Which one? There are 2 pure M7 chords in the minor scale, ionian and lydian. The chord that does appear often is the diminished seventh, relative to major- Reach for the Dead, Sick Times, Come to Dust- but I don't know how to apply what he said to that observation. These little moments are why I love this place. Thanks, guys. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2100993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I like boards of canada bc chords. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2101051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) On 12/6/2013 at 3:35 PM, apriorion said: On 12/5/2013 at 11:46 PM, LimpyLoo said: On 12/4/2013 at 12:23 AM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: On 12/3/2013 at 9:43 PM, sheatheman said: On 12/3/2013 at 3:16 PM, Bertolt Brechtakt said: I bet he only wrote the review to include this little section that shows his jazz pianist cleverness. "The tracks are dressed up in a lot of ponderous synth pads, synth melodies, synth arpeggios, synth ostinati, synth wind. A lot of chord progressions that oscillate slowly from a minor tonic to the major seven chord built on its sixth, " It's funny to hear someone like him try to explain BoC chord progressions and completely miss the point. that's exactly what i meant. in particular with this section, he is just showing off. As someone who is interested in both music theory and grammar, I don't understand whose sixth he is referring to by "its." On 12/6/2013 at 12:54 AM, sheatheman said: As someone who share shares your interests, Grammatically: I agree that I'm not sure what the antecedent to "its" is. Structurally, in that clause, the "sixth" is possessed by "the major seven chord," which has a 1, M3, 5, M7, but no 6. Musically: I think it is some vague neapolitan inversion reference but I'm not even sure. The major seven chord as a general term? The major seven chord relative to aeolian? Which one? There are 2 pure M7 chords in the minor scale, ionian and lydian. The chord that does appear often is the diminished seventh, relative to major- Reach for the Dead, Sick Times, Come to Dust- but I don't know how to apply what he said to that observation. These little moments are why I love this place. Thanks, guys. I think the sixth actually refers to the tonic, so maybe he's talking about a Cm - AM7 progression... the major seventh built on the tonic's sixth. Edited December 6, 2013 by poblequadrat Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2101056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 11/7/2013 at 5:37 AM, zaphod said: On 11/7/2013 at 3:53 AM, Deer said: lol "pretty good" aka pianist for clodplay sounds like music in a loading screen in the sims. or what would play in the mind of a sentient toyota prius. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2101065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 6:39 PM, poblequadrat said: I think the sixth actually refers to the tonic, so maybe he's talking about a Cm - AM7 progression... the major seventh built on the tonic's sixth. That could be. The chord progressions do move from an aeolian triad to a lydian M7, but that is just in passing and is not the main thing going on, so it's kind of a stupid observation, like saying "lots of 16th notes and 4/4 time signatures." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2101135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 lots of recorded sounds are heard Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2102022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
playbynumbers Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) one of the douchiest reviews i've ever read. early BoC reminds him of music played in Urban Outfitters? yeah ... name-checking Howard Roark is super-classy as well. this guy knows nothing about BoC's music, no real appreciation of it. edit: the obviously-self-written bio is hilarious. he won the "“quintuple crown” in the DownBeat International Critics Poll, the Doris Duke Performing Artist Award and the Greenfield Prize, all awarded in 2012." maybe he doesn't know what the word quintuple means? plus, what the fuck are any of those things? Edited December 9, 2013 by playbynumbers Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide playbynumbers's signature Hide all signatures vinyl for sale photography! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2102152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 *walks into urban outfitters and requests a "devil"* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2102153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 On 12/9/2013 at 7:58 AM, Alcofribas said: lots of recorded sounds are heard There is a predilection for electronically processes samples. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2102157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 many instances if vibration were detected Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81148-jazz-pianist-vijay-iyer-reviews-tomorrows-harvest/page/4/#findComment-2102174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts