Klopjob Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) By that I mean.. Aphex Twin music has always been unconventional and even innovative, is it really possible to be original anymore? There's no denying Aphex' influence over the music world, and what with the size of the market due to Youtube, Soundcloud etc.. It's difficult to make anything without somebody saying "Oh that sounds like x" is it possible to make something truly mindblowing? It looks like Richard is most likely struggling to make that so, and that he saw this coming a long time ago.. Analord deliberately follows certain rules and conventions, Drukqs was inspired by early 20th century experimental composition techniques. He no longer has the production edge over the rest of the music community like he did in the late 90s/early 2000s either, you can download VST patches which mimic the exact sounds which took him weeks to perfect, music production has progressed rapidly in recent times and I think Aphex has been hit harder than anyone else. Edited December 24, 2013 by Klopjob Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Yes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakmassive Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 On 12/24/2013 at 9:20 PM, chassis said: Yes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 On 12/24/2013 at 9:10 PM, Klopjob said: By that I mean.. Aphex Twin music has always been unconventional and even innovative, is it really possible to be original anymore? There's no denying Aphex' influence over the music world, and what with the size of the market due to Youtube, Soundcloud etc.. It's difficult to make anything without somebody saying "Oh that sounds like x" is it possible to make something truly mindblowing? It looks like Richard is most likely struggling to make that so, and that he saw this coming a long time ago.. Analord deliberately follows certain rules and conventions, Drukqs was inspired by early 20th century experimental composition techniques. He no longer has the production edge over the rest of the music community like he did in the late 90s/early 2000s either, you can download VST patches which mimic the exact sounds which took him weeks to perfect, music production has progressed rapidly in recent times and I think Aphex has been hit harder than anyone else. It ain't the surfboard - it's the surfer, dude. I wish people would stop posting threads like this in he AFX forum and just appreciate what you have from the man in terms of music, if he releases something new, talk about it, until then FFS shut up and listen to one of the 1 billion artists doing their thing. 'Mind-blowing' is a really relative thing and most every art-form and artist who produces it utilizes an elaboration of their influences, much like a personality of a person being formed by whom they are around most. I think the man still has an edge because he's talented and humble. If he wanted to make millions and sell out some hack electro-forgettablegenra album he would have, but he chooses to let his art be what he wants it to be, and to do it when he wants to do it... that gives him the freedom to do whatever the fuck he wants, including waiting the better of a decade for a new Aphex album. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Audioblysk's signature Hide all signatures "You could always do a Thoreau and walden your ass into a forest." - chenGOD ##### | (.) (.) ] | < / | O / ----- Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chartnok Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 I've been thinking the same thing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkingtonPugsly Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Who is this aphex? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) there are further levels of awesomeness but humanity needs to catch up. right now it would be a waste, like giving a 100 dollar meal to a dog. the result would be diarhea and no one would be happy. Edited December 24, 2013 by very honest Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 So there're plugins for talent now are there. oh my dear lol fp. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 He's talking about production mostly I think, not really quality composition or the "talent" music craftsmanship you're talking about. It's a valid question to ponder, that goes beyond talking about AFX. How do you make braindance/any technical production mind bendingly innovative and unique these days nearly as much as some of the greats did in the late 90s? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Adding to my previous post. No offence klobjob, i'm sure that you genuinely thought through this matter. But focusing on plugins is to miss the point. When i first heard drukqs i thought, 'oh, he's still using all those same drum samples/machines wot 'ee always does. That's a bit sad. I thought 'ee ...would .. 'avf progress'd a bit'. And this was in 2000 and fucking 1. Didn't stop me being rather pleased that he'd gone to the effort to program it all up with his special aphex spices though. There's some bloody nice music on there. Progression, regression, transition, perception, meh, my brother came in and started taking the piss out of my post, so i give up. Live outside of time. It's nice here. [-; Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cult fiction Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 On 12/24/2013 at 9:10 PM, Klopjob said: He no longer has the production edge over the rest of the music community like he did in the late 90s/early 2000s either, you can download VST patches which mimic the exact sounds which took him weeks to perfect, music production has progressed rapidly in recent times and I think Aphex has been hit harder than anyone else. Starting my own mini rolling lol on this lol lol lol lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 im pretty sure when i listen to soundtracks to movies and really famous tv series, that i'm hearing the hand of master musicians at work. maybe some of it is the iron man himself behind the oars. it doesnt take a sherlock holmes to scan through the dark when you're hearing that certain "yo no se que" if u know what im reefering too. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MastaN8 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 IMO when BOC were hyping Tomorrows Harvest the first thing I thought was "this will sound dated" and not in a vhs warp type way. I mean guys like bibio and lorn took that sound and took it to new levels. When the first single dropped in that japan street promo and they blatantly were using some sort of basic grain delay from ableton didnt help. I think they may have suffered the most from a long hiatus. AFX ,and again this may just be me but, I feel as if there will be NO gap in production styles. Pop in Druqks and it sounds as fresh today as it did when it came out... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 this thread is not good Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 This is stating the obvious, but I think the op holds too strong a link between Aphex Twin and innovation. Aphex Twin is an artist with a number of strengths, and included among those strengths is writing gorgeous melodies. Those can be in the context of something innovative, but they do not have to be. Remember analord? And it's not just gorgeous melodies that makes Aphex Twin's music great. He writes music that I tend to enjoy for a number of reasons, and whether or not his albums feel ground breaking or innovative, I still want to have 'em. To put my point another way, MOAR AFX PLAZ!!! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Root5's signature Hide all signatures WATMM Christmas Albums: 2011 2012 2013 2014MOST IDM Tribute Albums: Incomplete Skyscrapers Rogue Planet Mycorhizae Olympus Mons HeadphonesOther Compilation Albums: Heading for Outer Space Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 It's still possible to create 100% innovative sounds that nobody has come close to producing yet Look at tac Lacora Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pafr Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 On 12/24/2013 at 9:54 PM, DorkingtonPugsly said: Who is this aphex? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnar Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 but he does have a production edge. it's not like he's writing everything on the puter anymore. probably the reason he starting moving more towards modulars and hardware gear in the 2000's onwards, was so that his sound could not be easily replicated. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigs Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 i only really read the op, but yes. obviously. that's a stupid question. you think he's been sitting with his chin on his knees, whimpering because he can't keep up? for whatever reason, he's decided not to release music in the last few years, but he's obviously still kicking. maybe he won't change the production game, but i'll be god damned that - should he put out another release - it won't be the finest electronic music we've ever heard. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ando Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 On 12/24/2013 at 10:28 PM, delet... said: So there're plugins for talent now are there. oh my dear lol fp. *loads up aphex twin plugin* Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Toffer Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Aphex's 'edge' comes from his musical talent rather than his production ability. Analord and the Tuss were original and both enthusiastically received. Don't doubt aphex. He's the best musician to live on this planet in many years. If originality is his intention then there is no doubt he will achieve it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 On 12/24/2013 at 11:16 PM, MastaN8 said: IMO when BOC were hyping Tomorrows Harvest the first thing I thought was "this will sound dated" and not in a vhs warp type way. I mean guys like bibio and lorn took that sound and took it to new levels... I think they may have suffered the most from a long hiatus. AFX ,and again this may just be me but, I feel as if there will be NO gap in production styles. Pop in Druqks and it sounds as fresh today as it did when it came out... I feel the same way. Also, those more recent unreleased AFX live tracks are totally release worthy and a good time. I'm surprised he doesn't think so. I'm surprised at what some artists find worthy though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I think everyone needs to accept he's done what he said he'd do and stop releasing music when he no longer needed to. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I'm with OP on this one. We should stop music as a whole altogether. "is it really possible to be original anymore?" No, no it isn't. Music is definitely over. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) On 12/26/2013 at 5:08 PM, Joyrex said: I think everyone needs to accept he's done what he said he'd do and stop releasing music when he no longer needed to. it can't be true, i don't believe it... seriously though, if that is the case then i think it's admirable and good that he is setting that example, demonstrating the principle that music should be for its creator more than the followers. music is a unique way of exploring one's own feelings and chronicling discoveries therein. releasing can be beneficial or enjoyable but it also appends various pressures to the process. Edited December 26, 2013 by very honest Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/81712-is-it-even-possible-to-produce-a-new-aphex-twin-album/#findComment-2108555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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