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Alright I listened to this a few times today.... Their best work so far - complete with their most bragging lyrics, most sexual content, most banging production. I could do without some tracks but on the other hand it works as a complete album. I love Strunk, Sex, Happy Go Sucky Fucky, Girl I Want 2 Eat U, I Don't Dwank (damn, now that I'm reading these titles it is easy to see why people hate them or don't take them seriously :D ). Also I think it is sincere, like they successfully merged with their fictional personas - like the Moon Love tracks which has their kid I think? Anyway, Dpek out

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  On 5/30/2014 at 4:55 AM, modey said:

lyrics are a bit explicit for my liking though

Seconded. I'm hoping it grows on me with time but on the first listen I found a lot of the lyrical content cringeworthy at times. For my money Die Antwoord is at times half funny and half awesome sounding but so far nothing appeals to me from this album save for maybe Ugly Boy and Pitbull Terrier.

I think this album is better than Tension, which always sounded kind of rushed to me. Something about the production on that album I didn't like. Not as good as SOS or Max Normal TV... a bit too serious lyrically. Some nice callbacks to Max Normal though, and a pretty decent album when all is said and done.

Well...just finished listening to DM in its entirety. Ugly Boy is my top pick of all the trax, but the rest of it I just wasn't really feeling. Maybe I'll like it more if I listen to it more, but it's hard to say.

 

  On 5/31/2014 at 3:04 AM, batch said:

Boobs in my inbox

Yeah IRL lol when I heard that bit

 

  On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said:

To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean.

 

  On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said:

you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence

 

  On 6/5/2014 at 5:32 PM, Jimmy McMessageboard said:

yeah I always wondered what an aphex ambient classic would sound like with some shit beat and rapping over it. thanks die antwoord

 

Hah! :wink:

  On 6/13/2014 at 2:01 AM, kxta said:

I met ninja and aphex on a corner in bethnal green in 2010, just before led festival. I always wondered why they were together but it seems like they're really good mates. Btw this is not bullshit

 

 

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I heard he only hangs out with ninja cause of yolandi

There will be new love from the ashes of us.

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As a huge Watkin Tudor Jones fan and owning the entirety of his discography ranging from The Original Evergreens - a 1995 doobie-hop concentration of Waddy and other Jburg collective (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J16DDeyDwPU) - to Max Normal to The Ziggurat (an absolutely fantastic sci-fi journey, utilizing a chip-tune esque "boom bang" aesthetic in abstract narrative following different characters through a mythical crypto-planet) to MaxNormal.tv and a few other smaller scale projects, I have to say that Die Antwoord's Donker Mag CD is my favorite work of theirs so far. Ninja and Yolandi have developed the "zef" aesthetic (which, having lived in Cape Town, I can first handedly say they created/transformed as perhaps the bones of the aesthetic existed prior to Die Antwoord but only to a comical degree, created by university students via the website watkykjy.com). Ninja, prior to DA, has been exploring the multifaceted and fluid nature of transcendence via Buddhism, as evinced by the multitude of characters and, following MaxNormal.tv's narrative, one see corporate rapper Max Normal's evolution into Ninja of Die Antwoord (check the video "Total Fuck Up," where we follow max through his character evolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pecHKtUXPy8&feature=kp ; furthermore the song Laf Nag details the infiltration of "coloured" Cape Flats culture into subversively placid and middle-class Max Normal's ("dress code strictly formal") life. Donker Mag is the culmination of this evolution, as $O$ comically hinted at the absurdist and jocular quality of the Zef aesthetic, which, through the medium of Ten$ion (where gang-riddled innuendo and imagery), has evolved into a dark, occult, and powerful realm (thus the translation of Donker Mag to "dark magic"). The question of authenticity should be entirely avoided as the entirety of Ninja's artistic direction has been fluidity of persona, a thematically Buddhist quality running throughout the entirety of his works. Ninja and Yolandi's sexually explicit lyrics and actions have only been furthered via Donker Mag, pronouncing the perennially attractive gaudy maximalism of zef with lyrics referencing sexting, violence, and general lavish living. Yet, there are many soft and nostalgic elements (the chorus "sea, sex, and sun" is a reference to an older MaxNormal.tv song and "Moon Love" is a shorter version of a song by the same name on MaxNormal.tv's album "Good Morning South Africa"), involving atmospheric and mellow singing (similar to the diversity found in previous projects). Thus, this work, while starkly tainted with Zef visual and aural imagery, encapsulates much of Ninja's journey into his contemporary work. In my opinion, DA are the masters of aesthetics, most visible in their concerts - I have noticed that they have increased the time of the drone-y, witch-noise set prior to DJ Hi-Tek's "fuck you in the ass" set with which they begin all the concerts. While juxtaposing the lyrical quality of Ninja's sex-crazed and flavorful raps with the intricate, avant-garde, and intellectual raps of The Ziggurat or MaxNormal.tv will yield no comparison (the older projects are much more lyrically involved), I think doing so defeats the purpose as Die Antwoord is much more musically experiential - in Donker Mag I find that Justin DeNobrenga's (DJ Hi-Tek) rave-injected rhythms coupled with Yolandi's seductively sugary yet bitingly acrid raps and Ninja's bold, South African numbers-gang-induced flavor makes for probably the most aesthetically powerful project I have ever heard or witnessed. Also, I think RDJ working with such a group makes absolute sense, as not only are Ninja and Yolandi intelligent people (if you think DA is a vapid project and not an aesthetic immersion, check their old works or even consider that they are affiliated with the likes of David Lynch and Harmony Korine) but their highly stylized aesthetic fits what Chris Cunningham has created and been creating. I even suspect that Chris Cunningham may be involved in an impending television show that DA is set to release.

I have heard many speculate that Die Antwoord has sold out and I think this is absolutely untrue as they have retained their independence via their own SA-based label Zef Records, going so far as to drop a 1milllion dollar deal with Interscope in preserving creative control, as Interscope wished to contort their aesthetic to one entirely more pop-based (and were displeased with the Evil Boy video, despite initially informing Ninja and Yolandi that they could take the video/song in any direction). Such a bold move is quite the opposite of selling out and, despite this was 2 years ago, their past and contemporary retinue of affiliates projects their independence - from working with artists who entirely fit or accentuate the art that has become the "Zef" aesthetic (Harmony Korine, ATL Twins, David Lynch) to South African based cinematographer Niel Blomkamp, Die Antwoord has never compromised their aesthetic for fiscal gain. Despite they are to be featured in the Sony-budgeted film "Chappie" as the two lead roles, Ninja and Yolandi chose to work with this director and star in this film in particular, turning down previous offers (Yolandi was asked to feature as the lead - what became Rooney Mara's role - in David Fincher's "Girl With The Drago Tattoo" and Ninja was asked to play Matt Damon's role in "Elysium") because they did not fit their very much intensely and intricately stylized/perfected Zef aesthetic. Not compromising an aesthetic for financial reapings is, imo, the opposite of selling out.

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suddenly a wild juggalo appears

  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

paragraphs; they're not just for christmas.

  On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said:

I know IDM can be extreme

  On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said:

this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield

  On 6/17/2014 at 6:12 AM, InternetTelevision said:

Despite they are to be featured in the Sony-budgeted film "Chappie" as the two lead roles, Ninja and Yolandi chose to work with this director and star in this film in particular, turning down previous offers (Yolandi was asked to feature as the lead - what became Rooney Mara's role - in David Fincher's "Girl With The Drago Tattoo" and Ninja was asked to play Matt Damon's role in "Elysium") because they did not fit their very much intensely and intricately stylized/perfected Zef aesthetic. Not compromising an aesthetic for financial reapings is, imo, the opposite of selling out.

 

 

Bullshit. Nobody offered them these roles, Fincher for sure, it's another marketing trap.

Ironic that I say this as the OP, but fuck Donkey Mug. What a shitty album.

 

  On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said:

To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean.

 

  On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said:

you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence

 

this love rap album is some of the only overt love theme music i like.

 

rat trap is my favorite at the moment.

 

love fucks you up like an evil angel

  • 4 months later...

hugh jackman's got a mullet. lol, he should go back to australia and play some fourth class tuffy from the streets of welfare town australia. Be cool ya.

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