Dpek Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Alright I listened to this a few times today.... Their best work so far - complete with their most bragging lyrics, most sexual content, most banging production. I could do without some tracks but on the other hand it works as a complete album. I love Strunk, Sex, Happy Go Sucky Fucky, Girl I Want 2 Eat U, I Don't Dwank (damn, now that I'm reading these titles it is easy to see why people hate them or don't take them seriously :D ). Also I think it is sincere, like they successfully merged with their fictional personas - like the Moon Love tracks which has their kid I think? Anyway, Dpek out Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dpek's signature Hide all signatures https://blazgracar.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2169853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Edited May 31, 2014 by AdieuErsatzEnnui Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2169892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Boobs in my inbox Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2169970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 this is great. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2169971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Space Coyote Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 On 5/30/2014 at 4:55 AM, modey said: lyrics are a bit explicit for my liking though Seconded. I'm hoping it grows on me with time but on the first listen I found a lot of the lyrical content cringeworthy at times. For my money Die Antwoord is at times half funny and half awesome sounding but so far nothing appeals to me from this album save for maybe Ugly Boy and Pitbull Terrier. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2169972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimandres Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I think this album is better than Tension, which always sounded kind of rushed to me. Something about the production on that album I didn't like. Not as good as SOS or Max Normal TV... a bit too serious lyrically. Some nice callbacks to Max Normal though, and a pretty decent album when all is said and done. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2170046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted June 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well...just finished listening to DM in its entirety. Ugly Boy is my top pick of all the trax, but the rest of it I just wasn't really feeling. Maybe I'll like it more if I listen to it more, but it's hard to say. On 5/31/2014 at 3:04 AM, batch said: Boobs in my inbox Yeah IRL lol when I heard that bit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2171610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimmy McMessageboard Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 yeah I always wondered what an aphex ambient classic would sound like with some shit beat and rapping over it. thanks die antwoord Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2172439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 On 6/5/2014 at 5:32 PM, Jimmy McMessageboard said: yeah I always wondered what an aphex ambient classic would sound like with some shit beat and rapping over it. thanks die antwoord Hah! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2172515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kxta Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I met ninja and aphex on a corner in bethnal green in 2010, just before led festival. I always wondered why they were together but it seems like they're really good mates. Btw this is not bullshit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2175577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 alexx taco really dropped the ball on this one Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2175591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 On 6/13/2014 at 2:01 AM, kxta said: I met ninja and aphex on a corner in bethnal green in 2010, just before led festival. I always wondered why they were together but it seems like they're really good mates. Btw this is not bullshit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I heard he only hangs out with ninja cause of yolandi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2176157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 yolandhi in trouble then. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2176340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest InternetTelevision Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) As a huge Watkin Tudor Jones fan and owning the entirety of his discography ranging from The Original Evergreens - a 1995 doobie-hop concentration of Waddy and other Jburg collective (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J16DDeyDwPU) - to Max Normal to The Ziggurat (an absolutely fantastic sci-fi journey, utilizing a chip-tune esque "boom bang" aesthetic in abstract narrative following different characters through a mythical crypto-planet) to MaxNormal.tv and a few other smaller scale projects, I have to say that Die Antwoord's Donker Mag CD is my favorite work of theirs so far. Ninja and Yolandi have developed the "zef" aesthetic (which, having lived in Cape Town, I can first handedly say they created/transformed as perhaps the bones of the aesthetic existed prior to Die Antwoord but only to a comical degree, created by university students via the website watkykjy.com). Ninja, prior to DA, has been exploring the multifaceted and fluid nature of transcendence via Buddhism, as evinced by the multitude of characters and, following MaxNormal.tv's narrative, one see corporate rapper Max Normal's evolution into Ninja of Die Antwoord (check the video "Total Fuck Up," where we follow max through his character evolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pecHKtUXPy8&feature=kp ; furthermore the song Laf Nag details the infiltration of "coloured" Cape Flats culture into subversively placid and middle-class Max Normal's ("dress code strictly formal") life. Donker Mag is the culmination of this evolution, as $O$ comically hinted at the absurdist and jocular quality of the Zef aesthetic, which, through the medium of Ten$ion (where gang-riddled innuendo and imagery), has evolved into a dark, occult, and powerful realm (thus the translation of Donker Mag to "dark magic"). The question of authenticity should be entirely avoided as the entirety of Ninja's artistic direction has been fluidity of persona, a thematically Buddhist quality running throughout the entirety of his works. Ninja and Yolandi's sexually explicit lyrics and actions have only been furthered via Donker Mag, pronouncing the perennially attractive gaudy maximalism of zef with lyrics referencing sexting, violence, and general lavish living. Yet, there are many soft and nostalgic elements (the chorus "sea, sex, and sun" is a reference to an older MaxNormal.tv song and "Moon Love" is a shorter version of a song by the same name on MaxNormal.tv's album "Good Morning South Africa"), involving atmospheric and mellow singing (similar to the diversity found in previous projects). Thus, this work, while starkly tainted with Zef visual and aural imagery, encapsulates much of Ninja's journey into his contemporary work. In my opinion, DA are the masters of aesthetics, most visible in their concerts - I have noticed that they have increased the time of the drone-y, witch-noise set prior to DJ Hi-Tek's "fuck you in the ass" set with which they begin all the concerts. While juxtaposing the lyrical quality of Ninja's sex-crazed and flavorful raps with the intricate, avant-garde, and intellectual raps of The Ziggurat or MaxNormal.tv will yield no comparison (the older projects are much more lyrically involved), I think doing so defeats the purpose as Die Antwoord is much more musically experiential - in Donker Mag I find that Justin DeNobrenga's (DJ Hi-Tek) rave-injected rhythms coupled with Yolandi's seductively sugary yet bitingly acrid raps and Ninja's bold, South African numbers-gang-induced flavor makes for probably the most aesthetically powerful project I have ever heard or witnessed. Also, I think RDJ working with such a group makes absolute sense, as not only are Ninja and Yolandi intelligent people (if you think DA is a vapid project and not an aesthetic immersion, check their old works or even consider that they are affiliated with the likes of David Lynch and Harmony Korine) but their highly stylized aesthetic fits what Chris Cunningham has created and been creating. I even suspect that Chris Cunningham may be involved in an impending television show that DA is set to release. I have heard many speculate that Die Antwoord has sold out and I think this is absolutely untrue as they have retained their independence via their own SA-based label Zef Records, going so far as to drop a 1milllion dollar deal with Interscope in preserving creative control, as Interscope wished to contort their aesthetic to one entirely more pop-based (and were displeased with the Evil Boy video, despite initially informing Ninja and Yolandi that they could take the video/song in any direction). Such a bold move is quite the opposite of selling out and, despite this was 2 years ago, their past and contemporary retinue of affiliates projects their independence - from working with artists who entirely fit or accentuate the art that has become the "Zef" aesthetic (Harmony Korine, ATL Twins, David Lynch) to South African based cinematographer Niel Blomkamp, Die Antwoord has never compromised their aesthetic for fiscal gain. Despite they are to be featured in the Sony-budgeted film "Chappie" as the two lead roles, Ninja and Yolandi chose to work with this director and star in this film in particular, turning down previous offers (Yolandi was asked to feature as the lead - what became Rooney Mara's role - in David Fincher's "Girl With The Drago Tattoo" and Ninja was asked to play Matt Damon's role in "Elysium") because they did not fit their very much intensely and intricately stylized/perfected Zef aesthetic. Not compromising an aesthetic for financial reapings is, imo, the opposite of selling out. Edited June 17, 2014 by InternetTelevision Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2177444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 suddenly a wild juggalo appears Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2177454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 paragraphs; they're not just for christmas. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2177585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 On 6/17/2014 at 6:12 AM, InternetTelevision said: Despite they are to be featured in the Sony-budgeted film "Chappie" as the two lead roles, Ninja and Yolandi chose to work with this director and star in this film in particular, turning down previous offers (Yolandi was asked to feature as the lead - what became Rooney Mara's role - in David Fincher's "Girl With The Drago Tattoo" and Ninja was asked to play Matt Damon's role in "Elysium") because they did not fit their very much intensely and intricately stylized/perfected Zef aesthetic. Not compromising an aesthetic for financial reapings is, imo, the opposite of selling out. Bullshit. Nobody offered them these roles, Fincher for sure, it's another marketing trap. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2177622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Is RDJ on this or not? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2177623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 On 6/17/2014 at 3:53 PM, paranerd said: Is RDJ on this or not? Yes, he's doing background dancing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2177629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Lies, it's foreground dancing Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2178133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Ironic that I say this as the OP, but fuck Donkey Mug. What a shitty album. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2178135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 this love rap album is some of the only overt love theme music i like. rat trap is my favorite at the moment. love fucks you up like an evil angel Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2181107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpek Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Alright they released a new video. Featuring Cara, Dita, Manson, Flea, Jack Black and RDJ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dpek's signature Hide all signatures https://blazgracar.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2246576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Die Antwoord starring in a new film "Chappie" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Adieu's signature Hide all signatures There will be new love from the ashes of us. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2246922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 hugh jackman's got a mullet. lol, he should go back to australia and play some fourth class tuffy from the streets of welfare town australia. Be cool ya. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/82340-die-antwoord-donker-mag/page/5/#findComment-2246925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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