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synth patch at 1:01 in Vengeance Video sounds like menu hoppin in earlier Grand Turismo games

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  On 6/19/2014 at 4:38 AM, Zooluus said:

synth patch at 1:01 in Vengeance Video sounds like menu hoppin in earlier Grand Turismo games

lol i hear what you mean

 

Still really loving this album after several listens.

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this album is ticking all the right boxes for my current listening needs...love it love it love it!

 

Lone has really stepped up to the plate:

 

- after starting as a somewhat BoC clone a la Tycho with Lemurian

- receiving almost no attention for the truly underrated Ecstacy & Friends

- switching it up to '90s dance with Emerald Fantasy Tracks that got him recognition

- releasing his masterpiece Galaxy Garden - 10/10 for me

 

we now have Reality Testing, which I'd rate slightly lower than GG but still an amazing album. gonna make the top 10 list of 2014 for sure!

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  On 6/20/2014 at 3:55 PM, tokn said:

this is more fun and coherent for me than galaxy garden

 

agree.

lone was always an artist I sort of kept an eye on and appreciated his styles and sounds and grooves, but I found it super hard to keep the attention span to get through a whole album generally.

galaxy garden came out and I actually had given up by that point. flashy photoshop album cover, footwork style tracks, machinedrum collabs, none of it really interested me.

this new album is super sweet and I think it was more recently I went back and re-listened to galaxy garden and realised that album is actually super sweet as well. out of the two though, there's a certain balance in the new one that i'm appreciating just that little bit more. the production is super soft as well, which helps. it's a warm, well produced album that doesn't sound too loud or offensive or anything on the ears, and for me it's definitely a step up above >>GG<<

He's doing a thing here right now

http://www.mixmag.net/videos/the-lab/lone-in-the-lab

"They're about guns, lasers, robots with laser guns in space. Monsters from the future. Explosions. Sylvester Stallone doing a backflip on top of a spike while Robocop carries a ghost up a mountain. Bombs and swords and that... IDM is awesome."

I guess I'm not really understanding the negativity so much...

yeah sure it's not an album you put on for high energy thrills and surprises - I agree it's pretty predictable at times, but I like it for what it is... and to me it's like a chilled summer record with pleasant synth palettes coupled with hip hop beats. I kind of expect this from Lone. I don't think he is groundbreaking as an artist, but I'm not looking for that kind of thing. I think people are going into this record with a high expectation of some kind.

 

If there is new boc or ae = yes, I can understand heavy expectations being set for absolutely amazing records to be produced by them.

Lone, on the other hand, nah, nothing that pushes boundaries but an all round solid record is something I'm looking for in his work.

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  On 6/22/2014 at 1:38 AM, Bread said:

I guess I'm not really understanding the negativity so much...

yeah sure it's not an album you put on for high energy thrills and surprises - I agree it's pretty predictable at times, but I like it for what it is... and to me it's like a chilled summer record with pleasant synth palettes coupled with hip hop beats. I kind of expect this from Lone. I don't think he is groundbreaking as an artist, but I'm not looking for that kind of thing. I think people are going into this record with a high expectation of some kind.

 

If there is new boc or ae = yes, I can understand heavy expectations being set for absolutely amazing records to be produced by them.

Lone, on the other hand, nah, nothing that pushes boundaries but an all round solid record is something I'm looking for in his work.

Yeah lol fucking hell. This attitude is starting to neg me out a little.

 

I get the whole it being a public forum and people have the right to express their opinions, but it's almost like you can't not like an album that other people are liking without jumping in and trying to explain why the album isn't good (as opposed to just acknowledging and accepting the simple phenomenon that is simply not liking a particular something).

 

Maybe this isn't a public forum. You to pay for a registration now to post, yeah? Maybe that's turbo charged the forum to be super cynical and snobby. Like, the cost of memberships warrants the right to rag on and shit on albums that you don't like.

 

I think this post was also inspired by the opn r+7 thread, (shout out to the opn r+7 thread!!).

 

I dunno, I think this album is good and groovy.

Just take it as everyone's opinions. There's no point getting bogged down just because of negative comments by other folk.

:doge: Jet fuel can't melt dank memes :doge:

But if it is all subjective opinion, why do people post negative comments? People actually take the time to build up a negative post, in detail. I just don't understand the motivation at all.

 

If I didn't like Lone's album, I wouldn't even bother posting something about why I don't like it - I would just ignore this thread completely and let others get on with posting positive opinions. I wouldn't spend my time posting negative criticisms of art since I agree it is all subjective, but it's nice to collectively discuss positive aspects about someone's work. It's kind of like the saying "if you don't have anything nice to say, then be quiet" - I think that is correct when it comes to any kind of art. Just as an example, I don't like the CW LP from afx that much, but I'm not about to go into that thread, where everyone is enjoying positive discussions about it, and say something like - "lol, mumbly is so cheesy isn't it! what a terrible track! what was he thinking back then?"

If nobody ever talked about their displeasures the interwebs would be boring as fuck...

 

Also, nobody would ever know if anything was really good or not-- There'd be no way to read up on something before purchasing. Forums are to discuss all opinion whether good or bad.

 

I want to read what others truly thought about the album; negative or postive. If you get all defensive because people are saying negative comments I think you are taking it a little too personally and over-dramatically. Being a fan is cool but being a fanboy isn't.

 

A lot of what was said above I completely agree with. xxx- " I can't help but straight-up laugh at "Clutched Under" though. The first minute sounds like a bad Luther Vandross instrumental outtake. Even though the footworking and arpeggios kick in to help rescue it into a Lone track, the core is that loping, Hodor of a slow jam"

 

So true! I was just listening to this track the other day just shaking my head.. Wtf was he thinking. And then the echoey out of place vocal in the track literally makes me shudder.

It's a solid album, don't love it but like it a lot. I think his approach to the hiphop nostalgia thing worked really well in some tracks (like jaded, coincidences, 2 is 8) but not so well in others. But it's good listening for the summer imo, has a lot of the hazy vibes. Could've done with less house and more hiphop though.

 

Basking though, is a bit too long for it's own good. It kinda drags on and seems to go on forever. And it's not that interesting so I don't really want it to.

 

Jaded's gotta be my favorite though, wish more of the album was like that. (And 2 is 8 and the beginning of Coincidences)

 

Also, if Begin to Begin weren't already released it would've been a nice 'discovery' whilst listening to the album but alas...

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  On 6/22/2014 at 11:21 PM, lyst said:

If nobody ever talked about their displeasures the interwebs would be boring as fuck...

 

Also, nobody would ever know if anything was really good or not-- There'd be no way to read up on something before purchasing. Forums are to discuss all opinion whether good or bad.

 

I want to read what others truly thought about the album; negative or postive. If you get all defensive because people are saying negative comments I think you are taking it a little too personally and over-dramatically. Being a fan is cool but being a fanboy isn't.

 

A lot of what was said above I completely agree with. xxx- " I can't help but straight-up laugh at "Clutched Under" though. The first minute sounds like a bad Luther Vandross instrumental outtake. Even though the footworking and arpeggios kick in to help rescue it into a Lone track, the core is that loping, Hodor of a slow jam"

 

So true! I was just listening to this track the other day just shaking my head.. Wtf was he thinking. And then the echoey out of place vocal in the track literally makes me shudder.

 

yeah I guess so. I wrote my little rant at 4pm sunday afternoon (this is waking up, still in bed watmm action). I think I was just negging out over nothing. The post is probably better suited in the oneohtrix point never r+7 thread but I posted it here because that's what I was reading at the time. :p

  On 6/22/2014 at 7:59 AM, bitroast said:

 

  On 6/22/2014 at 1:38 AM, Bread said:

I guess I'm not really understanding the negativity so much...

yeah sure it's not an album you put on for high energy thrills and surprises - I agree it's pretty predictable at times, but I like it for what it is... and to me it's like a chilled summer record with pleasant synth palettes coupled with hip hop beats. I kind of expect this from Lone. I don't think he is groundbreaking as an artist, but I'm not looking for that kind of thing. I think people are going into this record with a high expectation of some kind.

 

If there is new boc or ae = yes, I can understand heavy expectations being set for absolutely amazing records to be produced by them.

Lone, on the other hand, nah, nothing that pushes boundaries but an all round solid record is something I'm looking for in his work.

Yeah lol fucking hell. This attitude is starting to neg me out a little.

I get the whole it being a public forum and people have the right to express their opinions, but it's almost like you can't not like an album that other people are liking without jumping in and trying to explain why the album isn't good (as opposed to just acknowledging and accepting the simple phenomenon that is simply not liking a particular something).

Maybe this isn't a public forum. You to pay for a registration now to post, yeah? Maybe that's turbo charged the forum to be super cynical and snobby. Like, the cost of memberships warrants the right to rag on and shit on albums that you don't like.

I think this post was also inspired by the opn r+7 thread, (shout out to the opn r+7 thread!!).

I dunno, I think this album is good and groovy.

that's strange since the vast majority of the r+7 thread is people expressing how much they love it. in fact, simply as a result of me posting my thoughts on the album (which I don't like) a long time member tried to get himself banned and most of the response to my criticism is intolerance.

 

I think it's weird that people are so intolerant of critical opinions. if I write 20 paragraphs taking issue with an album I'm "shitting" on it and being "snobby" but if I post "lush" then everything's cool. wtf is that? this is a forum for discussing music. legitimate discussions do not require adulation. come one people.

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  On 6/23/2014 at 12:05 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 6/22/2014 at 7:59 AM, bitroast said:

 

  On 6/22/2014 at 1:38 AM, Bread said:

I guess I'm not really understanding the negativity so much...

yeah sure it's not an album you put on for high energy thrills and surprises - I agree it's pretty predictable at times, but I like it for what it is... and to me it's like a chilled summer record with pleasant synth palettes coupled with hip hop beats. I kind of expect this from Lone. I don't think he is groundbreaking as an artist, but I'm not looking for that kind of thing. I think people are going into this record with a high expectation of some kind.

 

If there is new boc or ae = yes, I can understand heavy expectations being set for absolutely amazing records to be produced by them.

Lone, on the other hand, nah, nothing that pushes boundaries but an all round solid record is something I'm looking for in his work.

Yeah lol fucking hell. This attitude is starting to neg me out a little.

I get the whole it being a public forum and people have the right to express their opinions, but it's almost like you can't not like an album that other people are liking without jumping in and trying to explain why the album isn't good (as opposed to just acknowledging and accepting the simple phenomenon that is simply not liking a particular something).

Maybe this isn't a public forum. You to pay for a registration now to post, yeah? Maybe that's turbo charged the forum to be super cynical and snobby. Like, the cost of memberships warrants the right to rag on and shit on albums that you don't like.

I think this post was also inspired by the opn r+7 thread, (shout out to the opn r+7 thread!!).

I dunno, I think this album is good and groovy.

that's strange since the vast majority of the r+7 thread is people expressing how much they love it. in fact, simply as a result of me posting my thoughts on the album (which I don't like) a long time member tried to get himself banned and most of the response to my criticism is intolerance.

 

I think it's weird that people are so intolerant of critical opinions. if I write 20 paragraphs taking issue with an album I'm "shitting" on it and being "snobby" but if I post "lush" then everything's cool. wtf is that? this is a forum for discussing music. legitimate discussions do not require adulation. come one people.

 

 

Yeah, it's weird. It's something i'm trying to get my head round atm actually, if I even agree with the point I was trying to make or not anymore. Going back and forth between viewpoints.

 

I think the reason I find it weird is, myself personally, I found my music taste to be completely non-concrete and contradictory all the time. Something that doesn't sounds like boring shit one day can sound amazing in a weeks time, couple months, couple years time. Upon repeated listens, or giving something a second chance with a bit more context or different mind set can be all it takes to turn a shitty album into a good album to the listener. So I've decided to try and stop writing off albums and to try and accept everything as fair play, musically, you know? it's like, if I don't like something, instead of thinking of it as 'shit', i'll just put it on the backburner and take the approach that it's not clicking with me. Maybe it will later down the track, maybe it will later and i'll simply never like the album. no big deal. So where's the necessity to express the viewpoint that I, personally, don't like the album, to an audience of people who are enjoying the album. who gives a shit if I don't like it? I might not like it because I listening to a shit ton of XTC at the time, or a shit ton of something else and my musical taste was skewed in a particular direction at the time.

 

Or its like, when i'm hanging out with friends, getting toasty listening to records. If someone puts on something i'm not familiar with, i'll always listen to it with an open mindset. I'll try to listen to it honestly and I don't like it, I won't just start spewing out how fucking boring the album is. I mean, the music has to be spectacularly shitty for me to feel the urge to actually share how shitty I think the music is. Anything else is just disrespectful and out of place.

 

So all this in mind, it shits me when I jump in thread where its like, varied ocean of people saying they're liking it/not liking it, but people are trying to explain why the music isn't doing anything for them, or it's 'boring', or overrated.

 

What the fuck is any of this worth? who gives a shit if someone doesn't like it.

 

Having said that, I hate the idea of telling people to shut up and to not express their viewpoint.

Of course I want people being able to express themselves and be open to expressing a negative response to an album.

But sometimes I just find it a bit redundant and premature and rude.

I'm torn. I dunno. who gives a shit??

 

 

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