Aphex Twin, LSD, THC and psilocybin

Hey guys, I think it's pretty typical that you have different reactions to the same molecules. There is no ultimate "definition" of what should be a trip under the influence of this or that material. General indications, perhaps, but the rest is up to you... Set and setting, right?

The general drug experience is about how you trip. The type of drugs you take will probably determine more than half of what your trip experience will be. Acid will be different from ketamine. Then set and setting for the rest, more or less depending on the individual and previous drug experience.

50-50, why not? Set & setting for me are more deterministic than the molecule, but I know it's just my opinion so no offence. Take x molecule a day you're depressed, anxious, angry, then a bad trip will most certainly welcome you into your own inner hell. Take the same molecule in a happy, relaxed state of mind and you will visit the earthly garden of delights. Set is so powerful. It's the ego, man, and the ego is thick as a brick. Then setting. Take the same molecule in a prison cell with bad ass murderers and psycho rapists OR take it in an open field with your loved ones, this will radically colour and alter the experience, no matter what the molecule is. Even a specific album that is being played can suddenly trigger a bad trip. So to separate the "drug" from the inner experience, and the inner experience from its outer context, and how it's all related, is very problematic to say the least. That's just my own experience though! But of course, we agree that LSD differs from ketamine (etc.) and there are general characteristics for every molecule that most users seem to agree upon.

Trip reports mentioning Aphex on Erowid are extremely rare, but here is one of someone on LSD:

"The first thing I did was to get my music ready. I had picked 6 CDs of music that I wanted to hear during this experience. Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do was the first choice, since his music gets in touch very deeply and very fast with my psychedelic side."

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"Visual flexing of the stereo system is extremely apparent. Things are starting to get extremely distorted. Aphex Twin's unstable logic is starting to play with me. I must replace music while I still can. I feel the power of this trip starting to course through my body."

Source: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=13448

He sure doesn't like the question lol.

  On 6/20/2014 at 8:37 AM, MassfreeKid said:

He sure doesn't like the question lol.

 

and global goon's early work is brilliant for the come downs.

I always enjoyed listening to proper hard noise/gabba on acid. you really pick up on the intricacies.

never really had any aphex twin around at that time (late 80s) to try that out unfortunately.

Funny how late 80's early 90's were fuelled with acid everywhere.

  On 6/20/2014 at 8:37 AM, MassfreeKid said:

He sure doesn't like the question lol.

 

God, that interview is impossible to watch. You can feel how uncomfortable both Rich and the interviewers are. Couldn't they get someone more professional to do it? It's probably still the reason why he doesn't like the public and hardly ever gives interviews, let alone with honest answers. Can't blame him.

  On 6/20/2014 at 4:52 PM, MassfreeKid said:

Funny how late 80's early 90's were fuelled with acid everywhere.

I am fairly sure acid is still everywhere. At least, I never have a problem finding it.

A psychedelic musical renaissance would be amazing with modern technology, but kids be afraid to tap the deep end without their ego to back them up.

Nothing beats listening to old electro and new acid while on acid.

ACID

MOVE YOUR MIND MOVE YOUR FEET

  On 6/8/2014 at 5:52 PM, Avarik said:

Aphex Twin is undoubtedly psychedelic. I think it's easy to spot psychedelic music after "getting in."

I think Pancake Lizard is maybe his trippiest song.

  On 6/24/2014 at 10:40 PM, Klopjob said:

 

  On 6/8/2014 at 5:52 PM, Avarik said:

Aphex Twin is undoubtedly psychedelic. I think it's easy to spot psychedelic music after "getting in."

 

I think Pancake Lizard is maybe his trippiest song.

 

Nah, all of Melodies from Mars... also AB4 and AB5... and the Caustic Window LP imo.

For me, weed doesn't do much to how I experience Richard's music.

I prefer the 'chre at those moments, because of how abstract it is. When I close my eyes it's like my brain has to imagine objects that could produce those sounds, which can be pretty interesting, especially with Draft.

I dunno about other substances.

  On 6/23/2014 at 1:46 PM, MassfreeKid said:

MOVE YOUR MIND MOVE YOUR FEET

take your mind to another level feel the power of the TUN-TUN-TUUN-TEN-TEN

just tried out MDA for the first time. holy shit this drug is seriously amazing. It feels almost nothing like MDMA either emotionally or physically, very different from any 2c drugs. Provides legitimate visuals and also extreme music enhancement with a surprisingly low amount of mental head fuckery. Body high feels more amphetamine like than other phenethylamines. Highly recommended

  On 6/24/2014 at 10:40 PM, Klopjob said:

 

  On 6/8/2014 at 5:52 PM, Avarik said:

Aphex Twin is undoubtedly psychedelic. I think it's easy to spot psychedelic music after "getting in."

 

I think Pancake Lizard is maybe his trippiest song.

Hey man, you're the first afxian organism to say that to me and I completely agree. I came to the same conclusion a long time ago. We often put that song on repeat. If only he could come up with a full album in that style...

  On 6/25/2014 at 12:24 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

just tried out MDA for the first time. holy shit this drug is seriously amazing. It feels almost nothing like MDMA either emotionally or physically, very different from any 2c drugs. Provides legitimate visuals and also extreme music enhancement with a surprisingly low amount of mental head fuckery. Body high feels more amphetamine like than other phenethylamines. Highly recommended

Visuals off of MDA? I've never had that, ever. Visual disturbances I guess (movements out of the corner of your eye, depth perception losses in dark rooms), but never full on psychadelic/hallucinogenic visuals?

Edit: sorry not being skeptical, just curious about your experience.

  On 6/24/2014 at 11:21 PM, Verdant Hickies said:

 

  On 6/24/2014 at 10:40 PM, Klopjob said:

 

  On 6/8/2014 at 5:52 PM, Avarik said:

Aphex Twin is undoubtedly psychedelic. I think it's easy to spot psychedelic music after "getting in."

 

I think Pancake Lizard is maybe his trippiest song.

Nah, all of Melodies from Mars... also AB4 and AB5... and the Caustic Window LP imo.

 

For me, weed doesn't do much to how I experience Richard's music.

I prefer the 'chre at those moments, because of how abstract it is. When I close my eyes it's like my brain has to imagine objects that could produce those sounds, which can be pretty interesting, especially with Draft.

I dunno about other substances.

You might be surpised with other molecules. Autechre sounded empty and lifeless to me on many otherwordly occasions. And I'm quite a fan. It's very intellectual music, and I normally enjoy that, but then I was looking for some guts to connect with on a deeper level and it just didn't happen. Some people will probably agree with me, in that state of mind, you really get to reevaluate even the music you're the most used to as a fan. Something you thought would sound amazing (and which usually does) makes you feel completely empty and lonely and despaired and here comes Mr. Bad Trip.

Autechre is by far the best when it comes to sound textures. BoC is great too. That's why it's so good for tripping on drugs.

Aphex's music is quite good on a sober mind, I reckon. If I get too stoned, suddenly the fridge's humming becomes fascinating, or heaven forbid, I get sucked in by moody radio pablum à la Garou (good for you if that name doesn't ring a bell).

Maybe because Aphex's music is so ingrained in my daily life, I don't find it much psychedelic when I listen to it on weed. The most epic musical psychedelic experience I've ever had was Team Doyobi's first record on Skam, Sit People Between Chair or whatever the fuck that title was. The first two tracks were intricate musical and (hallucinatingly) visual stories with twists, characters, tension, contrasting emotions and surprises in a way that Aphex's music never offered.

Sorry for the drunken ramblings, but yeah, good thread. I shall give some of those suggestions and experiences described above a try at the earliest opportunity.

  On 6/24/2014 at 11:21 PM, Verdant Hickies said:

 

  On 6/24/2014 at 10:40 PM, Klopjob said:

 

  On 6/8/2014 at 5:52 PM, Avarik said:

Aphex Twin is undoubtedly psychedelic. I think it's easy to spot psychedelic music after "getting in."

 

I think Pancake Lizard is maybe his trippiest song.

 

Nah, all of Melodies from Mars... also AB4 and AB5... and the Caustic Window LP imo.

 

For me, weed doesn't do much to how I experience Richard's music.

I prefer the 'chre at those moments, because of how abstract it is. When I close my eyes it's like my brain has to imagine objects that could produce those sounds, which can be pretty interesting, especially with Draft.

I dunno about other substances.

I once smoked an eighth and took about 5 Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (LSA, pussy version of LSD) and listened to Drukqs, that was the night I decided Drukqs was maybe the best album ever made, in electronic music at least.. Remember to shave the outer layer off those seeds though, for anyone interested out there

  On 6/26/2014 at 1:51 AM, StephenG said:

 

  On 6/25/2014 at 12:24 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

just tried out MDA for the first time. holy shit this drug is seriously amazing. It feels almost nothing like MDMA either emotionally or physically, very different from any 2c drugs. Provides legitimate visuals and also extreme music enhancement with a surprisingly low amount of mental head fuckery. Body high feels more amphetamine like than other phenethylamines. Highly recommended

Visuals off of MDA? I've never had that, ever. Visual disturbances I guess (movements out of the corner of your eye, depth perception losses in dark rooms), but never full on psychadelic/hallucinogenic visuals?

 

Edit: sorry not being skeptical, just curious about your experience.

Good MDA is much more relaxing, smooth and psychedelic compared to its methyl sister. In higher doses I get a flood of empathy, insane body high and medium-low visuals and closed eye visuals. It's not like patterns-crawling, zomg trip out style- but more like just steady and light patterning and lovely colorful closed eye fun.

Mixing MDMA and MDA is a blast.

Be careful, MDA is quite a bit more neurotoxic than MDMA.

how the fuck are you guys doing so many drugs without having anxiety attacks.

i subscribe to the idea that anxiety while taking drugs is the ego fighting boundaries dissolution, i guess i need a good ego death to stop having anxiety attacks (or just not do drugs lol)

  On 6/27/2014 at 1:15 AM, Deer said:

how the fuck are you guys doing so many drugs without having anxiety attacks.

 

i subscribe to the idea that anxiety while taking drugs is the ego fighting boundaries dissolution, i guess i need a good ego death to stop having anxiety attacks (or just not do drugs lol)

Drugs have helped me combat my anxiety.