Aphex Twin, LSD, THC and psilocybin

me too in some areas but i still get really uncomfortable when i feel like im losing my mind or opening up, i psych myself out and start having irrational fears.

  On 6/27/2014 at 1:15 AM, Deer said:

how the fuck are you guys doing so many drugs without having anxiety attacks.

 

i subscribe to the idea that anxiety while taking drugs is the ego fighting boundaries dissolution, i guess i need a good ego death to stop having anxiety attacks (or just not do drugs lol)

You're not the only one, there are a lot of us out there better off without this shit

  On 6/27/2014 at 1:26 AM, Deer said:

me too in some areas but i still get really uncomfortable when i feel like im losing my mind or opening up, i psych myself out and start having irrational fears.

I actually get that too. I'm generally a low doser for all drugs, that way I don't fully lose control.

weed is the ONLY drug that ever gave me anxiety attacks, and ive done some drugs..(weed +lsd is rather excellent combo though)

sativas do that to me, I get anxious on sativas. Not indicas though

indica makes me feel sleepy. I can pull all-nighters on sativa.

  On 6/27/2014 at 6:53 AM, pafr said:

indica makes me feel sleepy. I can pull all-nighters on sativa.

Weird.. I thought it was the other way around!

  On 6/27/2014 at 1:15 AM, Deer said:

how the fuck are you guys doing so many drugs without having anxiety attacks.

 

i subscribe to the idea that anxiety while taking drugs is the ego fighting boundaries dissolution, i guess i need a good ego death to stop having anxiety attacks (or just not do drugs lol)

Look into spirituality or something, best to have an ego death without dropping acid

I always find listening to Vordhosbn calms me down if i'm anxious while high.

Weed is the only thing that gives me anxiety as well. Usually it's just a matter of low dosing. When I was a kid we would smoke blunts and be less stoned than I am on one hit of stuff these days. I'm a one hitter quitter now. I don't smoke that regularly so...

Every other drug is powerful enough to dissolve any anxiety issue I have for the most part. I'm not big on taking psychedelics around foreign environments or people though. Being comfortable is important. I think all psychedelics when used with the proper intent and execution should help a person deal with anxiety better for the most part. Anxiety is a motherfucker though and it requires a lot of effort and a good tools to rid ones self of it. It's really a matter of managing your internal dialogue and your biological responses properly.

  On 6/27/2014 at 6:53 AM, pafr said:

indica makes me feel sleepy. I can pull all-nighters on sativa.

yep exactly!

sativas have a higher concentration of THC where indicas generally have more of the other cannibanoids. THC in high doses can cause the anxious, speedy feeling.

sativas really make me feel meth'ed out.

True that Indicas have more CBD (anti-seizure, antipsychotic cannabinoid), though from what I read, it has more to do with the terpenes in the strain you're using than the chemical content (though sheer potency is of course a factor). Terpenes influence how the cannabinoids are metabolized. You can have strains with near-identical chemical content and wildly different effects due to the terpenes.

Anyway carry on, always impressed by the breadth & depth of the knowledge in this area.

Doing psychedelics in public takes high-level cosmic skillz, because the absurdity of it all is unfolded a birrion-fold in front of your eyez, can get scary, etc. I generally trip indoors, but the last time I did shrooms was in a park. Trees were dancing. And we were dancing the cosmic dance of Life. Trippay as fuck. It took a few minutes to walk home, but if felt like walking many km, uphill, legs made of clay filled with glitter magic. Back home, the toilet area was a spaceship command center. Shroomz iz beautiful.

But I would not- and have not- done psychedelics in a party environment. Fuck that shit. I don't wanna be melding with a bunch of people who are sucking fun from the ether. But I have tripped in the city. Fucking couldn't figure out how shops worked and shit.

And ganj causing anxiety is an ironic and funny thing, cuz it's a good calm-downer when on other, more electric (and anxiety inducing shit). But yah- a strong sativa can give you that "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!" vibe, and it doesn't help that possibly- if you've smoked enough- that greys are around the corner. It gives a taste of that LSD feeling of "I just want to feel normal!!!" Usually after such experiences, it becomes apparent how much of a godsend sobriety is... But benzos can basically take the edge off of anything. I believe the edge is actually part of the experience- and should be required if you go that far, cuz dealing with that is part of the WIZDOMZ AND COSMIC DISCIPLINE- but benzos can definitely help you cheat, if you wanna experience all the glory with none of the fight. Like being champ in a UFC video game.

Speaking of which, some morning glory festival stuff here in Japan, which reminded me of eating a shitload of seeds in 2000. I still get sick thinking about it.... I couldn't even look at peppercorns without feeling sick- or any small black tingz- for a few years. Fuck that shit. What the fuck are we doing? I've drunken my piss post shrooms for a bump and have picked out undissolved e tablet bits from my shit, from a non-liquid plug.

A few weeks ago I experimented with modafinil and stayed up for like 5 days, with only a few hours of sleep total. Dude.

This thread makes me realize..... What the fuck is anything, anymore..... Though I would like a solid smoke- ahaha. Been 1+ year. Mah gawd.

  On 7/6/2014 at 5:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

lol modafinil...how the fuck does that stuff work.

 

can confirm that on the whole sativa's are more anxiety and paranoia inducing. I find them more of an 'interesting' high. good sativa keeps me up, if I have a billy before bed of the shit I've got at the mo I won't sleep til sunrise. I think joints are the way to go for stuff like that, you can pace yourself a bit. my theory is that anxiety and similar negative effects are the result of shit hitting you at once but not necessarily having a lot of shit in your system.

 

anyway this is getting wildly off topic. I feel like Japan would be an amazing place to do psychedelics though. shame they're a lot harder to get and more expensive. I guess mushrooms grow pretty easily though yeah?

I believe it was audiblysk or jasondonervan who works in a shop and works with weed extensively, confirmed this.

I will try and find the post!

Yes. Here is the post. I commented that sativas make me anxious, sketchy, and feel like I'm on meth where indicas are relaxing for me... here is the post

StephenG, on 01 Mar 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

  On 3/1/2014 at 7:31 PM, StephenG said:

 

Phoenix, on 01 Mar 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

  On 3/1/2014 at 7:18 PM, Phoenix said:

Stopped smoking about 5 months ago (wow, time flies). I was a pretty hardcore smoker: smoked weed from the bong everyday after some mundane job. It worked out OK, so why change, right?

 

But I'm too sensitive. I can't handle it any more. I get struck by fear, and want to curl up in my own space and not interact with anyone outside my comfort zone. I still have that kinda, but I feel a lot less shame, and more incentive to actually do stuff: I'm planning for the future, feel more grounded, have clearer and straighter thoughts and, most of all, don't have that constant fog in my head. Also the fact that I was horribly depressed for 2 months after I stopped really showed me how much of an addict I was.

 

I'd rather keep my body clean, since it works better for me. I prefer to do yoga, since it gives me good feels, and none of the bad (except for some muscles aches in unforeseen places). I still get sad or angry, but that's just part of my human nature; dampening it with alcohol or drugs feels like putting a band aid on a festering wound. Now I choose to deal with my problems, instead of sedating them.

 

I am not judging anyone who smokes; It's your own choice. It just doesn't work out for me.

 

Have you considered that it may have been the type of weed you were smoking? I get the same feelings of fear and sketchiness from sativas but nothing like that from indica.

 

Not sure if there's a science to that at all but that has been my general experience. Maybe a weed expert type watmm member can educate me?

 

Most all cannabis has the same cannabinoids, just in different amounts. THC, CBD, CBG, THC-V and CBC are the main psychoactive/somatic chemicals you will find in cannabis. Higher levels of cannabidiol (CBD), cannabigerol (CBG) or cannabichromene (CBC) can contribute to lethargy and burn-out from indicas, partialy do to their slight antagonism of the CB-1, whereas sativas have a mostly THC chemical balance with little to no interference @ the CB-1 receptor as they have little CBD and other cannabinoids that can jam up the receptor, therefor, resulting in THC's full effect that makes people unaccustomed to its effects paranoid in most instances.

CBD has mostly somatic effect and little to no psycho-activity, that stuff is a goldmine in terms of medical value.

Vaporizing does give a different high, but it's also partially to do IMO with the amount of oxygen in your blood that goes down with inhaling combusted smoke, it makes people foggy. Also it has to do with the fact that all of the cannabinoids share sperate melting/vaporization temps so you might not be getting all the stuff out of yon dro so to speak. THC itself is quite a race-y chemical. We had to do testing for multiple butane extracted cannabis concentrates for my bosses magazine/medical cannabis industry awards the other week. I am a heavy smoker and it had me sweating the whole time due to the straight THC blast to the dome. I even got to try isomerized hash oil that a friend of mine makes, it takes concentrates that are already 50-70% THC and brings it to 95%+ pure. That stuff will literally put most people down no matter what as its hard as fuck to dose correctly!

I hope this helped

-Watmms weed expert-

It was Audioblysk that replied with the science there. He works in a headshop, I believe.

took 40 mg of adderall (scripted) for the first time today. felt like a god for 6 hours. then i crashed and got a bit depressed. shame about the crashing cause its amazing stuff.

I like one-hit bats (instead of joints) for "controlling the high" of ganj. Cuz you have to reload, which takes time. With joints- and no need to wait to reload- two puffs could be the difference between hip hop music video and horror b movie with mannequins.

As for adderall... Jah, mang. Baaasically meth.

aderall is like going to heaven for 5 hours and then you get drag to hell for the rest of the day

@ StephenG - I am currently working as a grow tech/Gardner in a 15,000sq ft legal grow warehouse in the SODO district of Seattle. Before that I worked at a medical cannabis cooperative I own with a couple of friends- I was working as one of the two gardeners in a few much smaller industrial spaces for the collective and occasionally managed the shop itself when needed. The medical co-op is still running, but it's on the back-burner with the new jahb. We trained people.

For the record all of this was/is legal in Washington-- it rains a lot, but it has it's percs.

  On 7/6/2014 at 8:52 AM, Audioblysk said:

For the record all of this was/is legal in Washington-- it rains a lot, but it has it's percs.

Is it legal for you to send to me in Tokyo, a shipping crate with 1,000 pounds ganj, of: 1/4 white rhino, 1/4 ssh, 1/4 sour diesel, 1/4 big buddha cheese (or any cheese related)? If it is illegal- SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS ONE CANNOT SEND TOUZAN POUN WEEDZ TO ASIA!!!

  On 7/6/2014 at 8:52 AM, Audioblysk said:

@ StephenG - I am currently working as a grow tech/Gardner in a 15,000sq ft legal grow warehouse in the SODO district of Seattle. Before that I worked at a medical cannabis cooperative I own with a couple of friends- I was working as one of the two gardeners in a few much smaller industrial spaces for the collective and occasionally managed the shop itself when needed. The medical co-op is still running, but it's on the back-burner with the new jahb. We trained people.

 

For the record all of this was/is legal in Washington-- it rains a lot, but it has it's percs.

Sorry, my bad. =(

I thought you were into the co-op/dispensary already

For those of you who were wondering about the potential use of psychedelics in concrete, scientific problem solving.

hey band addicts, do yourself a cure! The best drugs are music and sex...

  On 7/18/2014 at 9:43 AM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said:

hey band addicts, do yourself a cure! The best drugs are music and sex...

James Richard's most recent answer to this thread:

"Later [during or after Selected 85-92], his music was "definitely" shaped by hallucinogens. He remembers once taking mushrooms in a field in Cornwall, having "a full-on conversation" with the wind moving through the grass."

"On those albums James used his own voice, albeit heavily treated, and his own face, albeit distorted until it resembled some medieval Cornish folk devil, an image inspired by a terrifying "hallucination" he experienced on acid. He shared the terror in the Chris Cunningham-directed videos for Come to Daddy and Windowlicker."

Source: Q Magazine (2014)

Funny because I'm watching a documentary on the life of Tomi Ungerer right now, Far out is not far enough.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1974254/

And Tomi Ungerer said this: "The wind is the greatest storyteller of them all. Just listen to the wind. It combines storytelling and music."

In different interviews, Aphex Twin said exactly the same thing, but in other words. Listening to the wind under the influence of mushrooms seems to have shown to Aphex a living quality of the wind or that wind is alive, talkative and musical.

Interesting, isn't it?

Anyone had this type of experience?

fuck i need to take shrooms again. need a defrag. so deep in the grind, i gotta groove out (w/ the wind)