ISIS!

  On 12/19/2014 at 10:05 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 12/18/2014 at 4:58 PM, Barung said:

 

  On 12/17/2014 at 7:30 PM, Lane Visitor said:

 

  On 12/17/2014 at 7:17 PM, Barung said:

Every fucking terrorist group was supported by some industry/country at some point, the fault is not only in the ones who behead, it's in the ones who placed the knife in their hands moments before too.

 

Cant argue with that in principle, but there's also differing levels of "support".. i don't think it's ever black and white, as it's never in a vacuum. For example, I'd say there's a very stark difference in "responsibility" between how the U.S. may have been part of the background that contributed in some way to the indirect catalyst that helped mobilize ISIS and the actual intentional straight up direct funding, planning and execution of various terror operations from countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran. Some ppl are so quick to blame the U.S. for being at fault for the actions of Al Qaeda or ISIS.. but helping them in the past at some point along the way for other reasons is not the same as guiding their hands that hold knives that behead people.

 

Never talked about the us in particular. And I posted that comment because as far as I have seen, most ISIS convoys are basically formed by japanese cars with european machine guns mounted on them.

 

 

Do you think the Japanese government is selling cars to ISIS? Please don't tell me you're serious.

 

Never talked about any government, the thing I wanted to point out was "how do these horrendous people get to own all that expensive (imported) stuff? Not your usual kalasnikov holding terrorist.". It doesn't really matter to me which country, private industry or any source of economic support backed them along their way to what they are now, whether the purpose was to fight other bad guys or just genuine support for the cause, but it can't be denied that there has been some, and the organization wouldn't have been in control of all that military power without it. That's what I personally condemn and see almost as bad as killing innocents directly.

Japanese/Korean used cars get sold at a tremendously discounted rate in places like Nigeria, Syria, Pakistan, Libya, etc.

http://www.carlandkorea.com/

ISIS also stole a lot of the weaponry they use from Iraqi forces.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/18/un-report-isis-enough-weapons-carry-on-fighting-two-years

http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-has-52-american-weapons-that-can-hit-baghdad-2014-7

and this is an interesting look at the costs of buying weapons:

http://www.aawsat.net/2014/08/article55335319

Reports coming out that their dumbass taking of sex slaves has now infected the army with Ebola and HIV. Thanks nature.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2894154/ISIS-fighters-contracted-Ebola-World-Health-Organisation-investigating-reports-Islamist-militants-disease-showed-Iraqi-hospital.html

i saw the word archive on that page which has the letters hiv in it, but the word hiv wasnt in there. also it isn't true.

it did seem pretty turbo charged. like some end boss in a videogame or something.

exploiting off the fears of TWO currently scariest things in 2014 society (2015*) and morphing it into 1.

  On 1/5/2015 at 4:47 AM, DerWaschbar said:

i saw the word archive on that page which has the letters hiv in it, but the word hiv wasnt in there. also it isn't true.

Well, I'd be willing to claim that the conditions in ISIS-occupied territories would be bad in such a way that the outbreak of some sort of epidemic/viral disease is a real danger.

The reason an ebola outbreak might be unlikely is partly because there hasnt been an official case. So it's mostly rumor and heresay at this point. But the fact there's no available facilities to make an actual diagnosis in the occupied areas, and there's a war going on which makes it nearly impossible for healthworkers to do their jobs, leaves a lot to question.

I'd argue it's way too soon to write this story off as either nonsense or fact. It could be all of the above and anything in between. Time will tell.

  On 1/5/2015 at 3:38 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Reports coming out that their dumbass taking of sex slaves has now infected the army with Ebola and HIV. Thanks nature.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2894154/ISIS-fighters-contracted-Ebola-World-Health-Organisation-investigating-reports-Islamist-militants-disease-showed-Iraqi-hospital.html

Why not copy what the actual article you link to says?

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The World Health Organisation is investigating reports that ISIS militants have been showing up at an Iraqi hospital with Ebola.

Also nowhere in that particular article do the words HIV or sex slaves appear, nor do they appear in the original Mashable article that the Daily Mail's crack investigative team got this from.

Some words that do appear in that article though are:

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However, Ebola symptoms — nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding and bruising — are also similar to those associated with a number of other diseases, including malaria, Lassa fever, yellow fever viruses and the Marburg virus.

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If the cases in Mosul turn out to be Ebola — a scenario that, at this point, seems highly unlikely — it would mark the first time the virus had been detected in an area controlled by ISIS, a group that doesn't embrace science and modern medicine.

Clearly, ISIS embraces science (witness their fondness for scientifically designed killing machines), but only in a highly selective manner ;)

This looks like the original article, when I come across a story that I feel is post worthy, I'll usually read several different sources, then pick the link that disseminates the most info I'm trying to relate, so I paraphrase often. In this day and age, I feel you really need to see several different POVs, then make up your own mind what is fact and what isn't.

http://www.iraqinews.com/features/urgent-two-ebola-cases-confirmed-mosul/

lol, it was almost like the magnetic hysteria of ISIS and Ebola were too powerful to exist indepedently of eachother

Sounds like the Sunnis have had enough of their "liberators"

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/terrorists-may-unexpected-enemy-iraq-101500083.html

They've begun publicly crucifying people, and targeting "educated women" who might stand up to them. Fuckers.

http://news.yahoo.com/executing-educated-women-wave-horror-says-un-191112775.html

their sole purpose is as a bulldozer to clear up territory. they don't need to last long, they are expendable.

Another intresting idea has to do with the male to female ratio in saudi arabia. There are three million more men than women (and given that state's predilection for the wealthier in their society getting multiple wives the ratio of available women would be even worse) and as someone else stated in here they have been imprisoning people for all sorts of non-crimes against the state. So perhaps for saudi arabia this works as a release valve to kill off excess frustrated and poor males as they empty their jails and send this lads off to get shot in iraq and syria. This way they won't ferment revolution against the princes.

Of course there's all the other geopolitics going on, but i thought when i saw the ratio thing the other day that this was a nice point to ponder over.

isis burns rare books and manuscripts in mosul

sometimes i think i've "kinda" understood these guys (eg. qisas) but this completely boggles the mind.

did ISIS take #1 slot yet for making the most high production values/best cinematography snuff videos of all time?
i would argue they have. Just watched that beach video expecting not to see any actual beheadings (because almost all the other beheading videos like James foley cut out the beheading) but jesus christ that was intense. They do like HD closeups on the waves of the ocean completely red from blood, could be color corrected for extra effect in post production. Either way weird as fuck

ISIS seemed to have jumped in at the perfect time, when websites like Ogrish don't really exist anymore. There was an era of the internet where seeing stuff like this wasn't really a big deal, lots of websites were nothing but real death videos but I feel like this has extra impact now because of a lack of these types of websites

  On 2/25/2015 at 12:42 AM, Nebraska said:

isis burns rare books and manuscripts in mosul

 

sometimes i think i've "kinda" understood these guys (eg. qisas) but this completely boggles the mind.

This is nothing new - ISIS in particular has been doing it since they took Mosul, but destroying cultural/scientific artefacts that refute your ideology is a time-honoured tradition of cowards and reprobates.

We even manage to do it in Canada: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fisheries-and-oceans-library-closings-called-loss-to-science-1.2486171

the most extreme example of that I can think of is when the Taliban blew up those gigantic almost 2 thousand year old buddhist statues in Afghanistan

there was a really great shot/archive footage in Adam Curtis' Bitter Lake of a couple of white tourists climbing to the top of the statue and waving as the camera zooms out to a wide shot showing how big they were

i also thought this was interesting. In the United States media we often hear about ISIS persecuting the 'Christian populations of Iraq and Syria' especially in regards to the Yazidis in Iraq. To call the Yazidis christians completely inaccurate. They are actually a very obscure pre-christian religion. maybe someone can give more detail about this, but i thought it was worth noting.

moses survived - kick ass moses

islam is a joke - no psalms, no song of songs

watered down shit joke desert orgy sand in your backside religion invented by the shit cunt mohamed

left wing cunts love it - converting in droves

i aint converting to islam

islam is converting to CHUNKY

think u got trolld

  On 12/19/2014 at 6:24 PM, chenGOD said:

 

Moses would get high (on some really good shit apparently), go up to the mountains, talk to a burning bush (fuck me I really want some of what he was on)

 

 

dank maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, dank. I had a feeling that burning bush was an outdoor strain euphemism all along & that going to a Catholic school full of rampant paedos would come in useful 1 day (re-biblical references)

  On 1/21/2015 at 3:03 AM, delet... said:

Another intresting idea has to do with the male to female ratio in saudi arabia. There are three million more men than women (and given that state's predilection for the wealthier in their society So perhaps for saudi arabia this works as a release valve

 

 

Bitter Lake covers this angle/aspect really well with regards to King Faisal deliberately exporting male Saudis abroad to fight & spread Jihad. The context was an ongoing deal originally set up by Roosevelt & Faisal as part of their petro-dollar agreement. The irony, eh.

  On 2/25/2015 at 1:15 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

in regards to the Yazidis in Iraq. To call the Yazidis christians completely inaccurate. They are actually a very obscure pre-christian religion. maybe someone can give more detail about this, but i thought it was worth noting.

Ancient pre-Abrahamic religion, it's only incorporated very minor/recent islamic influences mainly due to proximity of Muslim populations across the Levant. Its viewed by IS as satanic & blasphemous, because it views some of their gods as having bad juju, bit like jinns

  On 2/25/2015 at 12:46 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

did ISIS take #1 slot yet for making the most high production values/best cinematography snuff videos of all time?

i would argue they have. Just watched that beach video expecting not to see any actual beheadings (because almost all the other beheading videos like James foley cut out the beheading) but jesus christ that was intense. They do like HD closeups on the waves of the ocean completely red from blood, could be color corrected for extra effect in post production. Either way weird as fuck

 

ISIS seemed to have jumped in at the perfect time, when websites like Ogrish don't really exist anymore. There was an era of the internet where seeing stuff like this wasn't really a big deal, lots of websites were nothing but real death videos but I feel like this has extra impact now because of a lack of these types of websites

i think another factor about their videos is that they're always current. when you watched those "gore/snuff" type videos on the web, some were old, others took place a while back, and they just floated around the web to satisfy curious minds that wanted to see "the most extreme/shocking thing".

with isis, it's like you're constantly getting updated on what their latest atrocity