APHEX TWIN - SYRO

It's one thing to have some negative criticisms (IE I don't like the mastering, chord progression, lacks certain feelings etc).

It's another thing to say it's a "dull flat plastic piece of useless shit".

One of those makes you an asshole.

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:02 PM, panz0r said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 4:57 PM, LemanRuss said:

ok, so only comments saying positive things about Syro are allowed?

 

obviously. they will all calm down in a few weeks. and you will get more honest/ unbiased opinions and reviews later...

 

And by then LemanRuss will be loving the album! :)

The name calling is the best part.

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:09 PM, MassfreeKid said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:02 PM, panz0r said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 4:57 PM, LemanRuss said:

ok, so only comments saying positive things about Syro are allowed?

 

obviously. they will all calm down in a few weeks. and you will get more honest/ unbiased opinions and reviews later...

 

 

And by then LemanRuss will be loving the album! :)

 

who knows

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:07 PM, jasondonervan said:

 

"Promotional Aphex Twin dropcard to promote Syro - not quite sure what it does but I ended up with two. It's rumoured to unlock bonus content online I think."

 

It's already more than a week ago, but I saw another one for this card on eBay. Buy now price: 200 quid, because he was sure it gave you privileges.

Hope noone fell for that.

  On 9/22/2014 at 1:46 PM, matrigs said:

You don't see anything insulting in slaping together a bunch of old binned tracks (has anyone realised that those sound 1:1 exactly the same as on the youtube recordings?) with huge amounts of hiss and overmaximized mastering because the original multitracks have been long lost as insulting?...

 

Why has it been released as "Aphex Twin"....

 

Syro is 100 % Aphex. It's a very fun album. It's excelently crafted. And that is pretty much it.

 

i like to think that im not a blind fanboy, i just happen to really like the guy's tracks, and i don't really feel that there is any need to defend him from you or anyone, but how exactly does your brain jump from each of those statements to the next?

first off, i feel like it would take a lot for any musician/band to put out a release that was 'insulting' to the fans or whoever bought it. it'd have to be really defective, or just terrible and sub-standard. syro is absolutely not either of those things. so what if some of the tracks were on youtube? a) its fucking youtube b) they sounded pretty shit c) now they sound great. i actually was never terribly impressed by the metz/manchester tracks the few times i listened. i never understood the praise they got around here. but when i listened i thought 'sounds like there could be some details in these tracks that are being lost by the shitty cell phone/whatever recording and youtube transcoding. details that may be really important to these tracks'. now that i've heard them on the album i think theyre fucking great. the difference for me was night and day. so why the fuck should i be insulted by that? are you mental?

2ndly, how can you not see a problem with your asking why it was released under aphex, then saying later that it's a very aphex release?

i'd like to agree with what's been said that post count doesnt necessarily give more weight to someone's posts, but to some degree, it does. if someone who's posts i've read many times and considered them and saw eye to eye with them on some level, says something that i really don't agree with, i'm going to be a bit more likely to think about what theyre saying and look at their reasoning and see if there might be something to it. yet even though you have few posts i still looked at what you had to say and saw nothing worthy of consideration. its contradictory and idiotic. aphex didn't owe you the album of your dreams. he gave us a great album and you admit that its great but still struggle to find things to bitch about and even say its insulting.

you're the exact kind of idiot who gives new posters a bad name. congrats

Don't change WATMM. There's Musaks to defend.

WATMM is pretty much the Aphex Twin official website if you look at the forum topics. It's literally the place of all places for Aphex fans to congregate.

Posting negatively about Aphex Twin can't really be interpreted as anything but an attention starved troll attempt, or at best not very thought out.

The proper thing to do is if you think an Aphex release is cheesy is to make parody songs about it until you love it.

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:36 PM, MisterE said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 1:46 PM, matrigs said:

You don't see anything insulting in slaping together a bunch of old binned tracks (has anyone realised that those sound 1:1 exactly the same as on the youtube recordings?) with huge amounts of hiss and overmaximized mastering because the original multitracks have been long lost as insulting?...

 

Why has it been released as "Aphex Twin"....

 

Syro is 100 % Aphex. It's a very fun album. It's excelently crafted. And that is pretty much it.

 

i like to think that im not a blind fanboy, i just happen to really like the guy's tracks, and i don't really feel that there is any need to defend him from you or anyone, but how exactly does your brain jump from each of those statements to the next?

first off, i feel like it would take a lot for any musician/band to put out a release that was 'insulting' to the fans or whoever bought it. it'd have to be really defective, or just terrible and sub-standard. syro is absolutely not either of those things. so what if some of the tracks were on youtube? a) its fucking youtube b) they sounded pretty shit c) now they sound great. i actually was never terribly impressed by the metz/manchester tracks the few times i listened. i never understood the praise they got around here. but when i listened i thought 'sounds like there could be some details in these tracks that are being lost by the shitty cell phone/whatever recording and youtube transcoding. details that may be really important to these tracks'. now that i've heard them on the album i think theyre fucking great. the difference for me was night and day. so why the fuck should i be insulted by that? are you mental?

 

2ndly, how can you not see a problem with your asking why it was released under aphex, then saying later that it's a very aphex release?

 

i'd like to agree with what's been said that post count doesnt necessarily give more weight to someone's posts, but to some degree, it does. if someone who's posts i've read many times and considered them and saw eye to eye with them on some level, says something that i really don't agree with, i'm going to be a bit more likely to think about what theyre saying and look at their reasoning and see if there might be something to it. yet even though you have few posts i still looked at what you had to say and saw nothing worthy of consideration. its contradictory and idiotic. aphex didn't owe you the album of your dreams. he gave us a great album and you admit that its great but still struggle to find things to bitch about and even say its insulting.

 

you're the exact kind of idiot who gives new posters a bad name. congrats

 

well i definitely prefer being called mental and reading some constructive counterposts than patting each other on the back

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:47 PM, skibby said:

WATMM is pretty much the Aphex Twin official website if you look at the forum topics. It's literally the place of all places for Aphex fans to congregate.

 

Posting negatively about Aphex Twin can't really be interpreted as anything but an attention starved troll attempt, or at best not very thought out.

 

The proper thing to do is if you think an Aphex release is cheesy is to make parody songs about it until you love it.

wow, you did it again (the making youself look stupid thing). if you look at the forum topics - in the aphex subforum..well, yeah..you will find mostly aphex related threads. and posting negatively about his music has nothing to do with attention seeking. jesus, kids these days.

  On 9/22/2014 at 3:12 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 2:35 PM, trananhhung said:

 

Matrigs words sound harsh but he has a point. Somewhat. I salute him for the courage.

And what point is that exactly?

 

All the fans were asking non stop for the live tracks to be released. So he released them. That's nice of him.

I love Syro, Stephen. But you can't deny the fact that it doesn't sound like something he made to be released. Compare it to the Chosen Lords compilation. I said recently in another thread that that album sounds incredibly clear and professional when compared to Syro. I love the Syro tracks but they have this very harsh mastering and hiss and lack of sound clarity that make the release seem like how he once put it in another record "12 unrealased tracks I had no intention to release for cash".

I'm incredibly grateful he did it though. It's a fantastic collection despite the rough edges.

trananhhung it clearly is an album he made to be released. he makes tracks for himself, as he's said in every interview he's done, and then he made this album. if you would have made different aesthetic choices with his work, fine, but why shit up this fanboy thread? the vast majority of fans are not interested in these pittling and narrow minded negative opinions

I think

i) some people have too high expectations

ii) some people probably believed they would dislike the album before it was even released and now seek to reinforce that (imo incorrect) opinion

iii) other people have brains

iv) this is really rather a lovely collection of Aphex tunes

Welcome back Richard

edit. and I don't get people who say the album doesn't sound great on headphones, it sounds pretty damn tasty to me

I also have really good ears and I don't see the "rough edges" you guys speak of. I just hear awesome music. Lucky us.

I'm not pissing on anyone's parade the album. I love the album! I was just trying to make it clear why I could understand Matrigs. I won't say another about it, though, because I LOVE SYRO.

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:57 PM, trananhhung said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 3:12 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 2:35 PM, trananhhung said:

Matrigs words sound harsh but he has a point. Somewhat. I salute him for the courage.

And what point is that exactly?

 

All the fans were asking non stop for the live tracks to be released. So he released them. That's nice of him.

I love Syro, Stephen. But you can't deny the fact that it doesn't sound like something he made to be released. Compare it to the Chosen Lords compilation. I said recently in another thread that that album sounds incredibly clear and professional when compared to Syro. I love the Syro tracks but they have this very harsh mastering and hiss and lack of sound clarity that make the release seem like how he once put it in another record "12 unrealased tracks I had no intention to release for cash".

 

I'm incredibly grateful he did it though. It's a fantastic collection despite the rough edges.

 

I found the mastering a little too hot on circlont 6 and syro, those tracks bothered me.

But I think the hiss is intentional and I quite like it actually lol.

lol blank. yeah, best japanese bonus track i've ever heard. i may have to procure one of those cds and gift my non-japanese one

Wtf, I must have a problem with my ears because I think the production is as good as I've heard on an Aphex album. It has a much wider, thicker, more 3 dimensional sound space to my ears. Drukqs almost seems flat in comparison (though Analords and Tuss were a step up). To me it's a similar jump to what Ae did with Oversteps and Exai.

I don't get it

Also, the hiss is awesome

theres nothing wrong with your ears roksen

Circlont14 is in my top 10 aphex tracks i think.... that breakdown is unbelievable... perfect for the fall

  On 9/22/2014 at 6:04 PM, J3FF3R00 said:

I also have really good ears and I don't see the "rough edges" you guys speak of. I just hear awesome music. Lucky us.

syrobonkus hit me right were it's good (4th listen).

this album man, keeps givin'!

  On 9/22/2014 at 5:57 PM, trananhhung said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 3:12 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 9/22/2014 at 2:35 PM, trananhhung said:

Matrigs words sound harsh but he has a point. Somewhat. I salute him for the courage.

And what point is that exactly?

 

All the fans were asking non stop for the live tracks to be released. So he released them. That's nice of him.

I love Syro, Stephen. But you can't deny the fact that it doesn't sound like something he made to be released. Compare it to the Chosen Lords compilation. I said recently in another thread that that album sounds incredibly clear and professional when compared to Syro. I love the Syro tracks but they have this very harsh mastering and hiss and lack of sound clarity that make the release seem like how he once put it in another record "12 unrealased tracks I had no intention to release for cash".

 

I'm incredibly grateful he did it though. It's a fantastic collection despite the rough edges.

 

It doesn't sound "rough" to me. He obviously worked a lot on the personality of each of the sounds. They are not right out of the box sounds. He toyed with their spatial qualities through re-amping. In that sense it seems to be more of an analogue production. Maybe that's what you refer to as "hiss"? I sure don't hear a tape hiss on this album. I'm disappointed in the first interviews that were conducted with him. No one asks him about the production aspects of Syro.