APHEX TWIN - SYRO

  On 10/26/2014 at 3:09 PM, beerwolf said:

 

  On 10/26/2014 at 6:03 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 10/26/2014 at 5:23 AM, xxx said:

I must admit to getting hungry for a big fuck-off Cock

so do we all mate, so do we all.

 

 

speak for yourself

 

What does that even mean?

"a big fuck off cock" ?

ah I get it now lol thanks

  On 10/27/2014 at 8:17 AM, purplegoat said:

 

  On 10/26/2014 at 4:26 AM, marf said:

i wish i could download this album Pre mastering. I get a bit of ear fatigue (i think). maybes its my imagination

agree agree agree agree

 

it's somehow warm, claustrophobic, compressed, dark, and strident IMO

 

I'm still having trouble breaching the album and I think that's why. I'm bummed too because I hoped for a long time for an official release of Metz so I could use it as a new reference track.. maybe I'm just not looking at it right

 

it's a lot of kind of positive music. it seems like a lot of musicians start out with some aggression in their music and then their later work is more positive, maybe because they're initially drawn to music as a way to work through some frustration, and then later feel responsibility for the effects of their music being listened to by the masses, and they don't want to just put out a way to indulge in negative feelings. even earth portal which starts out with like a dark heavy vibe soon shifts to more jazzy, lofty elements.

things aphex mentioned in interviews are really relevent to syro. it's like he wanted to explain it a little. i find it enlightening how he said that these are songs where he is done with their respective styles. i associate this with a comment he had made in earlier interviews about how when musicians use styles he pioneered he lost interest in them and felt like they were taken from him. i can see how the syro songs are styles he had exhausted, they each feel very complete unto themselves. syro could have been 12 awesome singles. not to say it doesn't flow, i think the flow of it is great (especially on a great system), but i usually listen to it skipping to specific tracks, and it's interesting how each song covers it's own unique territory. it brings the album to a new level that it is a collection of these kinds of songs.

dunno if that helps you at all. not sure why you don't like xmas. i have to be in the right mood for it, often right after leaving work. it's very subtle and deep. it's kind of amazing how deep and subtle it is, it's kind of hard to believe that he found a way to convey that mood in that way.

I imagine XMAS EVE to be Richard in full on sentimental mode. Sonically it covers so many of his warmest sounds. His family is sampled on it, not to sounds funny and strange, but innocent and beautiful. And I'm assuming he made this near the holidays (of course). It's definitely the easiest track to put an obvious context too. I listen to it in this way, and I think it makes it even more gratifying. Saying that, I loved it when it was called METZ as well and had no clue what it was "about". Its just great to me.

  On 10/27/2014 at 3:54 PM, very honest said:

 

  On 10/27/2014 at 8:17 AM, purplegoat said:

 

  On 10/26/2014 at 4:26 AM, marf said:

i wish i could download this album Pre mastering. I get a bit of ear fatigue (i think). maybes its my imagination

agree agree agree agree

 

it's somehow warm, claustrophobic, compressed, dark, and strident IMO

 

I'm still having trouble breaching the album and I think that's why. I'm bummed too because I hoped for a long time for an official release of Metz so I could use it as a new reference track.. maybe I'm just not looking at it right

 

 

it's a lot of kind of positive music. it seems like a lot of musicians start out with some aggression in their music and then their later work is more positive, maybe because they're initially drawn to music as a way to work through some frustration, and then later feel responsibility for the effects of their music being listened to by the masses, and they don't want to just put out a way to indulge in negative feelings. even earth portal which starts out with like a dark heavy vibe soon shifts to more jazzy, lofty elements.

 

things aphex mentioned in interviews are really relevent to syro. it's like he wanted to explain it a little. i find it enlightening how he said that these are songs where he is done with their respective styles. i associate this with a comment he had made in earlier interviews about how when musicians use styles he pioneered he lost interest in them and felt like they were taken from him. i can see how the syro songs are styles he had exhausted, they each feel very complete unto themselves. syro could have been 12 awesome singles. not to say it doesn't flow, i think the flow of it is great (especially on a great system), but i usually listen to it skipping to specific tracks, and it's interesting how each song covers it's own unique territory. it brings the album to a new level that it is a collection of these kinds of songs.

 

dunno if that helps you at all. not sure why you don't like xmas. i have to be in the right mood for it, often right after leaving work. it's very subtle and deep. it's kind of amazing how deep and subtle it is, it's kind of hard to believe that he found a way to convey that mood in that way.

 

sorry if I was unclear. thanks for the explanation.

all I meant was XMAS isn't mastered well to my ear. I was sure it was going to be my 2nd favorite track ever after Flim but I ended up preferring the live version. same with the Barbican track. I just really liked the extra space in Metz.. I think the mastering is warm, claustrophobic, compressed, and strident. I'm not talking about the composition.

holy aphex, i just got the

  On 10/26/2014 at 4:26 AM, marf said:

i wish i could download this album Pre mastering. I get a bit of ear fatigue (i think). maybes its my imagination

Yes, definitely this. But I love the album anyway.

  On 10/27/2014 at 5:50 PM, jamesanderson said:

 

holy aphex, i just got the

Syro Ballot Success email!

 

Grats, dude. Totes jelly.

But yeah, Syro... best album in ages. Still hasn't left repeat in my vehicle.

  On 10/27/2014 at 2:43 PM, Vaaler9 said:

oh and everyone and your grandma loves it.. and bought it. GTFO

  On 10/27/2014 at 3:30 PM, valleyinaire said:

Another Instagrizzle find.

 

ahhh this is beautiful

i agree on interviews thing, that he created little world of syro - raving with friends in the middle of nowhere when outside world gone mad - vulgar maddonas & kayne wests, global intoxications, aliens and conspirasies. mad proffecor, lost in 5+1/2 rooms trying to build time streching machine. earth portals, thanton gates, piezoluminescence, magic he also beleives in.

he said to journalist - you can belive all that crap cause its more fun this way.

so are his own interviews - probably "not everything" he says is totally true, but it's more fun to have concept of totally fucked drank and on druks rchard driving his tank from his bank to proclaim the independence of that country...

  On 10/26/2014 at 4:26 AM, marf said:

i wish i could download this album Pre mastering. I get a bit of ear fatigue (i think). maybes its my imagination

Couldn't agree more. The mastering is really rough versus Tuss, and doesn't sound nearly as good as the Analord premasters. The vinyl is better but I'd love a crisp 24 bit premaster so I could hear Metz & Manchester & co. without having to choose between:

A) It sounding really meek at low volumes

B) Making my ears hurt at normal volumes

We need a kickstarter to get Rich/Warp to release the pre-master WAVs. I've noticed I really prefer listening to this album on headphones. It just doesn't sound as good on my speakers, which are somewhat decent. Maybe there's a lot of subtle phase shit that glues it together. Maybe the album was produced and mixed mostly on headphones, more so than earlier works? I dunno. The waveforms don't lie, though. They do not lie.

After all these years I just realized Cock / Ver10 is awesome. For whatever reason I skipped that one consistently. Oh and syro is great <- see! still related to the thread!

  On 10/28/2014 at 3:19 PM, children r r future said:

We need a kickstarter to get Rich/Warp to release the pre-master WAVs. I've noticed I really prefer listening to this album on headphones. It just doesn't sound as good on my speakers, which are somewhat decent. Maybe there's a lot of subtle phase shit that glues it together. Maybe the album was produced and mixed mostly on headphones, more so than earlier works? I dunno. The waveforms don't lie, though. They do not lie.

Definitely sounds best on headphones. Everything just sounds so buttery this way.

mastering sounds fine to me, vinyl version is the best choice.

what is it with watmm and mastering?

We Are the Mastering Masters

  On 10/28/2014 at 6:10 PM, StephenG said:

We Are the Mastering Masters

so it would seem Stephen

  On 10/28/2014 at 3:19 PM, children r r future said:

We need a kickstarter to get Rich/Warp to release the pre-master WAVs. I've noticed I really prefer listening to this album on headphones. It just doesn't sound as good on my speakers, which are somewhat decent. Maybe there's a lot of subtle phase shit that glues it together. Maybe the album was produced and mixed mostly on headphones, more so than earlier works? I dunno. The waveforms don't lie, though. They do not lie.

  On 10/28/2014 at 6:10 PM, StephenG said:

We Are the Mastering Masters

Yeah, I'm getting slightly tired of this recurring discussion. :) Sounds like everyone on here knows what a great mastering is, except Aphex Twin. How this album sounds to you is so subjective to your own experience, it has almost nothing to do with the album itself. What Aphex should release is the informations about his own audio setup so that people can hear his album the way he hears it. I'm pretty sure that by then, the same people would start complaining about Aphex Twin's quality of hearing, arguing that he should let other people hear how his music sounds before releasing it.

calm down, im not angry. its not un-listenable. its amazing actually.. im just noticing subtle things happening to my ears. no complaints, love the album.

  On 10/28/2014 at 4:46 PM, Vaaler9 said:

After all these years I just realized Cock / Ver10 is awesome. For whatever reason I skipped that one consistently. Oh and syro is great <- see! still related to the thread!

Yeah, that's always been my favourite of the more 'aggressive' tracks on Drukqs. More stuff like this would be very welcome.

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular.

But it the grand scale of things.

No ones gives a fuck what you think.

You either like it or you don't.

Nobody really cares lol

hey cult fiction. that's your minipops reconsutrciton in your sig? v nice joyb.

  On 10/28/2014 at 11:54 PM, calx said:

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular.

 

But it the grand scale of things.

 

No ones gives a fuck what you think.

 

You either like it or you don't.

 

Nobody really cares lol

I care what you think....

=(

  On 10/28/2014 at 7:00 PM, MassfreeKid said:

 

Yeah, I'm getting slightly tired of this recurring discussion. :) Sounds like everyone on here knows what a great mastering is, except Aphex Twin. How this album sounds to you is so subjective to your own experience, it has almost nothing to do with the album itself. What Aphex should release is the informations about his own audio setup so that people can hear his album the way he hears it. I'm pretty sure that by then, the same people would start complaining about Aphex Twin's quality of hearing, arguing that he should let other people hear how his music sounds before releasing it.

Only slightly tired? Allow me to expound. JK.

I don't see why the mastering of an album should be a taboo subject, though. Of all of the aspects of a recording, signal quality (in terms of spectrum, dynamic range, etc.) is among the least subjective and most easily compared. Don't make me produce an "Inconvenient Truth"-esque hockey stick graph of RMS loudness from ABB to Syro. Because I'll fucking do it.