APHEX TWIN - SYRO

  On 9/13/2016 at 1:30 PM, Grumpy Old Daddy said:

 

  On 9/7/2016 at 3:16 PM, D4M0 said:

still love this album, can't wait for the next proper full lenght

 

Yeah same here, goes to my top 3 Aphex releases along with Drukqs and ICBYD.

Totally agree. Not too long ago I was telling someone it was in my top 3 Aphex releases. I have drukqs and the RDJ album as my other two tho :D

Some random stuff (probably discussed before):

 

Chartreuse color is considered to have "mandela effect", which means that a lot of people remember it wrong (being pink/red), like number of US states or Berenstein Bears (or me thinking that Syro release date was 21 and not 19 of september). Mandela effect can be called one of the conspiracy theories about parallel universes and stuff like that. That it's not your memory's fault, but in reality at that time things were not what they are today, cause way too much people remember it being different. I like how even such small detail fits perfectly into the whole "Syro Lore" that accompanied the record, when in almost every interview Rich talked about said conspiracy theories, time travel, being mad professor and such (and chemtrails ofc), creating a specific background for the music. Maybe he also remembered chartreuse being a different color and things like this entertain him. He said something (or meant) that with a bit of magic and believing in such things life gets more fun. That way you keep your inner child and interest to things around you, protecting you from becoming "tired skeptic that sees only grey colors". Like, what is more important - knowing the mundane boring truth, or living in a beautiful and interesting lie? Or take ancient people that believed in gods and totems - gods had strong characteristics, like being brave, merciful and generous, for instance - so people would naturally try to have these too (i know some gods are cruel etc, but just for example). Like, if a "lie" makes you a better person or chances your life, is it really so bad? Take Christianity for example (hot topic I know) - we realise that this stories are fiction, and probably there is no God, but believing in Jesus and trying to act like he preached makes a world a better and safer place (I'm not talking about the church and politics behind it, but just the teaching itself). I think sometimes this things can be good, just don't get too fanatic about it and don't force people to accept your beliefs. 

 

Or maybe he was serious about chemtrails and all that stuff, who knows.

 

I really wish I could hear the unmastered tracks off syro. I feel like the mastering on this is a bit heavy from the dynamics side of things. They did a great job making it all gel together but I feel like everything feels a bit squashed and stuffed up and some of the parts could breath a bit more. (compare to say, rushup edge).

 

EDIT: transients are too squashed. Attack and release time on the mastering compressors were too fast. Maybe richard wanted it that way, but I still want to hear original mixdowns.

Edited May 13, 2017 by Bubba69

  On 5/13/2017 at 1:12 AM, Bubba69 said:

I really wish I could hear the unmastered tracks off syro. I feel like the mastering on this is a bit heavy from the dynamics side of things. They did a great job making it all gel together but I feel like everything feels a bit squashed and stuffed up and some of the parts could breath a bit more. (compare to say, rushup edge).

 

EDIT: transients are too squashed. Attack and release time on the mastering compressors were too fast. Maybe richard wanted it that way, but I still want to hear original mixdowns.

agree 

Heard the vinyl?

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Edited May 13, 2017 by Guest

  On 5/13/2017 at 5:19 AM, psn said:

Heard the vinyl?

I actually haven't. But I remember reports that it had issues. I assumed it was worse.

  On 5/14/2017 at 3:01 AM, Bubba69 said:

 

  On 5/13/2017 at 5:19 AM, psn said:

Heard the vinyl?

I actually haven't. But I remember reports that it had issues. I assumed it was worse.

 

 

to my unprofessional ears the vinyl sounds great. A lot of dynamic in it...

Syro's dynamic range (digital copy) is pretty poor. In fact, out of all the releases tested there, it's the lowest scoring.

 

Edited May 15, 2017 by oscillik

Was listening to it again to other day after being away from it for a while.

What a blissful album.

  On 5/15/2017 at 10:18 AM, oscillik said:

Syro's dynamic range (digital copy) is pretty poor. In fact, out of all the releases tested there, it's the lowest scoring.

 

da fuk - a "dynamic range database"? Genuinely curious - is there any science behind their ratings, or is it just "this sounds poor to me" or "this sounds good to me"?

 

I guess for the music noob I am, can dynamic range be measured accurately to generate a score?

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:48 PM, Joyrex said:

 

  On 5/15/2017 at 10:18 AM, oscillik said:

Syro's dynamic range (digital copy) is pretty poor. In fact, out of all the releases tested there, it's the lowest scoring.

 

da fuk - a "dynamic range database"? Genuinely curious - is there any science behind their ratings, or is it just "this sounds poor to me" or "this sounds good to me"?

 

I guess for the music noob I am, can dynamic range be measured accurately to generate a score?

 

Yes there is. Click on the image, and then click on the album of your choice.

 

The dynamic range is calculated based on....the dynamic range of the music.

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:48 PM, Joyrex said:

da fuk - a "dynamic range database"? Genuinely curious - is there any science behind their ratings, or is it just "this sounds poor to me" or "this sounds good to me"?

 

I guess for the music noob I am, can dynamic range be measured accurately to generate a score?

Yeah for sure, it probably does something like work out the RMS volume range or something.... Definitely something that can be explicitly calculated though

 

EDIT: Haha, Merbow's Venereology and Pulse Demon albums taking #1 & #2 Spot for least dynamic range with an average DR of 0.0 !

EDIT: And this the most dynamic - https://cathnor.bandcamp.com/album/egg-fry-2

Despite that low DR score, it sounds far, far far better to my ears than say, ICBYD which has a higher DR score. I mean the mix/mastering, I'm not referring to preferring the songs.

 

Why might that be?

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:53 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

Despite that low DR score, it sounds far, far far better to my ears than say, ICBYD which has a higher DR score. I mean the mix/mastering, I'm not referring to preferring the songs.

 

Why might that be?

Likely because you're confusing dynamic range (the range of dynamics - i.e. loud sections vs quiet sections) with something else?

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:56 PM, oscillik said:

 

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:53 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

Despite that low DR score, it sounds far, far far better to my ears than say, ICBYD which has a higher DR score. I mean the mix/mastering, I'm not referring to preferring the songs.

 

Why might that be?

Likely because you're confusing dynamic range (the range of dynamics - i.e. loud sections vs quiet sections) with something else?

 

Isn't there an implication that low DR would be overly compressed? I'm probably misunderstanding, agreed.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/11023

 

"This album is the definition of punishment, however without it would never work: this is spastic, violent, electronic noise with 50% square waves and 50% straight saturation."

 

haha spot on

 

but I like this album though

 

 

 

merzbowish noise albums will always have the lowest ratings

Syro > dynamic range

  On 5/15/2017 at 5:00 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

still one of the best albums of the decade so far imo.

Yepper. Aside from the SC dump and SAW1 I've been listening to Syro more consistently than anything else recently

  On 5/15/2017 at 5:00 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

 

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:56 PM, oscillik said:

 

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:53 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

Despite that low DR score, it sounds far, far far better to my ears than say, ICBYD which has a higher DR score. I mean the mix/mastering, I'm not referring to preferring the songs.

 

Why might that be?

Likely because you're confusing dynamic range (the range of dynamics - i.e. loud sections vs quiet sections) with something else?

 

Isn't there an implication that low DR would be overly compressed? I'm probably misunderstanding, agreed.

 

 

Could be. But also compression isn't necessarily a bad thing nor is it the only thing that contributes to the overall sound of the mastering.

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:52 PM, mcbpete said:

 

  On 5/15/2017 at 4:48 PM, Joyrex said:

da fuk - a "dynamic range database"? Genuinely curious - is there any science behind their ratings, or is it just "this sounds poor to me" or "this sounds good to me"?

 

I guess for the music noob I am, can dynamic range be measured accurately to generate a score?

Yeah for sure, it probably does something like work out the RMS volume range or something.... Definitely something that can be explicitly calculated though

 

EDIT: Haha, Merbow's Venereology and Pulse Demon albums taking #1 & #2 Spot for least dynamic range with an average DR of 0.0 !

EDIT: And this the most dynamic - https://cathnor.bandcamp.com/album/egg-fry-2

 

 

this looks right up my egg street. Nice1

Interesting that Tim Hecker is in the top three for the DR maximum rating...

Someone on reddit did this really tight XMAS EVET10 Thanaton3 Mix Cover [KORG MS-20 Mini]

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJUkf2cKs8&feature=youtu.be

Pretty sure i've not listened to this album for a year.

  On 5/18/2017 at 9:22 AM, DJ Latte said:

Someone on reddit did this really tight XMAS EVET10 Thanaton3 Mix Cover [KORG MS-20 Mini]

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJUkf2cKs8&feature=youtu.be

Wow, this was a decent cover. Great work on those little details. Thanks for sharing!