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  On 3/2/2021 at 8:13 PM, very honest said:

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one of those versions is from drukqs reissue but what about the other one?

 

oh, there's another version in his soundcloud dump? can't quite understand why i don't have it...

 

edit: nvrmn i'm a dummy... he uploaded it today and you're just making sure everybody understand that they're 2 completely different versions... i agree with you!

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  On 3/2/2021 at 8:20 PM, Tim_J said:
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one of those versions is from drukqs reissue but what about the other one?

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that's comparing the bleepstore download (flac) from a couple years ago with the mp3 download from the soundcloud one, which is apparently a new upload and one he hadn't put on sc before

i'm not familiar enough with mp3 encoding to say if the waveform differences are attributable to that but the mp3 (yellow outline in the gif) seems to show new detail in some places, which i would not expect if lossy encoding from the same source

  On 3/2/2021 at 8:24 PM, very honest said:

that's comparing the bleepstore download (flac) from a couple years ago with the mp3 download from the soundcloud one, which is apparently a new upload and one he hadn't put on sc before

i'm not familiar enough with mp3 encoding to say if the waveform differences are attributable to that but the mp3 (yellow outline in the gif) seems to show new detail in some places, which i would not expect if lossy encoding from the same source

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you're right they're obviously obvs  2 different tracks...

 

edit: shit this is a bomber... richard pls make good music again...

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zomg it's a higher definition mastering of a tune we've all heard ad nauseam new perspectives have just been unlocked zomg this is so amazing 

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  On 3/3/2021 at 12:38 PM, cern said:

Is the Mangle track the same on Drukqs as on "Rephlexions! An Album of Braindance!"?

 

No, I think the Rephlexions version is an edited one.

My Rephlexions has that unedited version. I thought it was included to every version, until bumped into that shorty a year or two ago.

just to be clear, there are two versions of Mangle 11:

  • Mangle 11 (Circuit Bent VIP Mix) - the 5:55 version from Rephlexions! released in 2003
  • Mangle 11 (Circuit Bent VIP Mix Promo Edit) - the 3:03 edited version on the Rephlexions! promo, released 2003

the 5:55 version was also released in 2018 as a bonus track on the Drukqs digital reissue, titled "Mangle 11". and this version has also just been uploaded to soundcloud.

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so, when you download Mangle from the Aphex Warpstore, It is labeled as track 34 but when you dl and play it, it is designated as 35?

has anyone dl'd the whole album from the warpstore and seen if there's just a mis-numbering or if there's a bonus track in there somewhere?

also when listening to the warpstore and the soundcloud versions next to each other, I don't hear any differences... 

can anyone point to extra___ or missing___ from one to the other at any points in the track?

or is there just slight "mastering" differences (as per the slight variances between the two spectrometer images...)?

  On 3/3/2021 at 7:37 PM, hayhook said:

 

also when listening to the warpstore and the soundcloud versions next to each other, I don't hear any differences... 

can anyone point to extra___ or missing___ from one to the other at any points in the track?

or is there just slight "mastering" differences (as per the slight variances between the two spectrometer images...)?

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no compositional differences. waveform looks the same when zoomed out. i was just speculating about it being a different mastering.

  On 3/3/2021 at 7:46 PM, hayhook said:

also just noticing. on the Aphex Warpstore. Penty Harmonium has been renamed to "QKThr"...

always been like that. in 2001 the CD issues had a badly hand-written tracklist, and the vinyl issues had nice typeface track lists on the center labels. there are a few slight differences and that's the one track with two different names.

the 2018 digitals have a third set of slight differences - "prep gwarlek 3b" is called "prep gwarlek 36". and it's possible this was always the correct name, and people were just misreading the CD insert...

  On 3/3/2021 at 5:38 PM, Dragon said:

just to be clear, this means there are three versions of Mangle 11:

  • Mangle 11 (Circuit Bent VIP Mix) - the 5:55 version from Rephlexions! released in 2003
  • Mangle 11 (Circuit Bent VIP Mix Promo Edit) - the 3:03 edited version on the Rephlexions! promo, released 2003
  • Mangle 11 - released in 2018 as a bonus track on the Drukqs digital reissue

and the 5:55 version has just been uploaded to soundcloud.

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Maybe crystal clear to others, but care to elaborate, how the bleepstore version is supposed to be different from the Rephlexions version? It is even 5:55 long. So no matter how much I am counting my fingers I get only those two version released on rephlexions.... Listening to this music is so confusing.

there are three versions because the 2003 Rephlexions! version is a "Circuit Bent VIP Mix" and the one on Drukqs is, apparently, the original mix. they're structurally different.

there's some talk about the recent Soundcloud upload being a "different master" to the same track on Rephlexions but it's best to ignore it. just very tiny pixely changes in a waveform that could be explained by all kinds of things.

  On 3/3/2021 at 5:38 PM, Dragon said:

just to be clear, this means there are three versions of Mangle 11:

  • Mangle 11 (Circuit Bent VIP Mix) - the 5:55 version from Rephlexions! released in 2003
  • Mangle 11 (Circuit Bent VIP Mix Promo Edit) - the 3:03 edited version on the Rephlexions! promo, released 2003
  • Mangle 11 - released in 2018 as a bonus track on the Drukqs digital reissue

and the 5:55 version has just been uploaded to soundcloud.

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Never knew that there was a promo edit.

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