Aphex Twin and Stockhausen College Project (I need your help WATMM)

Hey WATMM, I need your help!

I'm currently studying HND Music Production and I'm working on a project for a Creative Arts Research piece titled "Who's the Daddy? The Influence of Karlheinz Stockhausen on Aphex twin". I thought WATMM would be the best place to post this, for I need outside opinions for this project for some quantitative research findings.

Both innovative in their own way, I thought I would show certain simularities within their music by taken Gwarek II from Druqks (which has certain electroacoustic techniques I thought screamed out Stockhausen everytime I hear it) and mix it in with Stockhausen's 'Songs Of The Youths' (which Stockhausen arrogantly told Richard back in an interview in 95 with Wire that he should listen to more of his music "because he would immediately stop using these post-african rhythms" and recommended Songs Of The Youths.)

Does this mix highlight a possible influence of Stockhausen on Richards work? Y/N or What in the fuck?

Here's the mix -

I would apprecitate your time and any opinions on how they blend in together, or even if its just complete madness. It would be a really big help for me and I'd love you all forever, even if you tell me its complete and utter balderdash, it all counts!

Well, obviously you know about the quote about Stockhausen and Aphex reviewing each others stuff (the post-african rhythm blabla anecdote), but he recently said more about Stockhausen in one of the 2014 Syro interviews:

I'm addicted to new music. I listen to new stuff all the time. I can't really name anyone that put me in awe lately though. Ah wait, yes, Stockhausen ! Well I mean it's not that great. I don't really like what he does. But when I try to understand his music, I'm like 'Dear God, this is fantastic, this is incredible ' ! Somehow I wish I was like him, not giving a fuck about what's happening around me. But I'm not that mean... nor clever. I was like that when I was younger, but not anymore. »

(source: http://forum.watmm.com/topic/84679-syro-period-interviews/page-26?p=2238404&do=findComment&comment=2238404 )

My opinion is that it's very hard to say what Stockhausens influence on Aphex was, he listens to shitloads of similar stuff (Radiophonic Workshop stuff, Xenakis, Herbert Eimert, Tod Dockstader, Harry Partch, Kenneth Gaburo, etc.), so you get a mixed bag of what comes out. Besides that I don't know Stockhausens work well enough to say anything of worth about it.

Anyway, not sure if you have heard all those soundcloud tracks Aphex put up a while ago (they are now gone) but that contained loads of very experimental (modular) stuff that could be of worth!

you could look at it with an introductory theory chapter/paragraph piece on "agency" & performativity (performative practice),,,,,or what Bourdieu termed "regulated improvisation" (1977, 1990).

ie: influences/conditioning through learning can become almost ingrained within the "performer" & therefore affect (to whatever extent) that which is subsequently produced.

yeah Aphex has pulled ideas from him some times without really getting into actual Stockhausen territory. Aphex did non-melodic stuff but Stockhausen did something completely different. He developed new harmonic theories on a scientific basis. Aphex never did that.

Thanks guys for the feedback and great info, it will provide great help for my hand in and presentation next week. That recent quote about Stockhausen from that French Interview will go down a treat too! Cheers for that Herr Jan. Has the Noyzelab Interview been saved before it was deleted from the Noyzelab blog anywhere?

yeh there's a zip in the interview thread