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I second the vst's Chim mentioned, they're very fun, though the buffer override is a bit overused. These days if I use it I try to hide it in the mix to compliment something else.

Personally, I like to make DSP sounds from scratch, starting with a 'click' of some sort. The click almost always has a vowel formant sound to it initially such as 'ooo' or 'eee', which gives it definition. Pretty much this WHOLE song is me playing with DSP bits I made, plain, stretching them, making whistle sounds out of them, etc.

https://soundcloud.com/evoava/modular-hash-demo

Starting at :29 (and kinda throughout), those are clicks at the middle C fundamental/ OR the fundamental of the key note I'm wanting to compose in (for easy transposition), with various frequency shifters adding higher harmonics (all automated to be in tune, a bit time consuming, but worth it for me).

I'll get a click of some sort, and add a tone to it with a dub-delay. I'd much rather find NATURAL clicks that are around C and pitch them a bit. But both methods produce different sounds. Make sure you have a plugin in there reading what note it's on since you can easily get something else besides C. Once you get C or very close, then you can record.

I find it makes the 'dsp' FX very in your face, as opposed to filtering it out from existing stuff, i'm adding harmonics to a click. Then when I have all my samples I'll transpose and whatnot, using different samples as I go. So the difference between what I'm doing and what the usual method is that I'm adding harmonics by shifting them in another channel while keeping the original click intact.

Once you put it to a track, then what I'm doing is adding many midi in a row of the samples, makes it sound like a screwed up acid line or something.

Hope that made sense. It's not easy to make and requires many steps. So it'll never catch on. Maybe when I get enough knowledge I'll be able to make a VST or something to make it easier. :)

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  On 2/4/2015 at 3:29 AM, cloud capture said:

www.audiomulch.com

it has potential, tho it hasn't been updated for a long time now.

 

 

  On 2/4/2015 at 3:29 AM, m0rb1d said:

Does Kyma count?

no cuz its kinda impossible to get unless you're dead fucking serious about sound design.

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  On 2/4/2015 at 5:35 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

nice post brisbot, inventor of click-core.

 

was it you who made a sampler instrument out of beat frequencies?

No, what's that exactly? Sounds like fun to try out.

 

edit: it fixed itself..

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It won't let me edit my last post even though I've just posted it...

  On 2/4/2015 at 5:21 AM, logakght said:

btw made this with audiomulch

 

https://soundcloud.com/geosmina/abisal-i

Very nice. Do you use Audiomulch a lot? It seems nice from YT videos but it looks like what can be done there can be done with VST chains. Would you argue against that?

  On 2/4/2015 at 6:00 AM, Brisbot said:

It won't let me edit my last post even though I've just posted it...

  On 2/4/2015 at 5:21 AM, logakght said:

btw made this with audiomulch

 

https://soundcloud.com/geosmina/abisal-i

Very nice. Do you use Audiomulch a lot? It seems nice from YT videos but it looks like what can be done there can be done with VST chains. Would you argue against that?

 

I try to use it when I want to make some really improvised/glitchy stuff, and that's, for me, the appeal of AM, its capacity to compose on the run, since it doesn't has a sequencer (only for automations).

 

I agree that it is absolutely possible to make similar stuff in any daw or vst chain, but the "workflow" actually reflects in how it sounds at the end, imho. in Ableton Live for example you have a really nice and organized fx table ready to act. In AM it usually is a mess having boxes floating and stuff, but "feels" different.

 

One of the biggest appeals of it for people are some of the built in effects, such as the granulator and similar stuff, and the "metasurface" is nice too (which is like a super x/y parameters control), but again, it all ends in the workflow, and I wouldn't consider AM as a "complete DAW", its more of a "live music software".

 

tim hecker use it.

Well now that I know Tim Hecker uses I'm I'm going to get it for sure. Heh.

I didn't know about the metasurface. That's next level shit.

  On 2/4/2015 at 6:18 AM, Brisbot said:

Well now that I know Tim Hecker uses I'm I'm going to get it for sure. Heh.

 

I didn't know about the metasurface. That's next level shit.

 

 

 

yep. i hope it gets updated soon, i think it's a cool software that deserves more recognition.

Definitely going to check out Audiomulch after that clip.
  On 2/4/2015 at 5:10 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 2/4/2015 at 3:29 AM, cloud capture said:

www.audiomulch.com

it has potential, tho it hasn't been updated for a long time now.

 

 

  On 2/4/2015 at 3:29 AM, m0rb1d said:

Does Kyma count?

no cuz its kinda impossible to get unless you're dead fucking serious about sound design.

 

Eh, I got my Capybara used for under $800 dollars and they pop up on eBay every couple months. That's tangible(ish) considering the depth and quality.

 

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SonicCharge's Permut8 is a lovely plugin to mess with : quite unpredictable, super-versatile, and sounds absolutely amazing. And it's super fun to use.

Soundhack plugins are fantastic as well.

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  On 2/4/2015 at 6:23 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 2/4/2015 at 6:18 AM, Brisbot said:

Well now that I know Tim Hecker uses I'm I'm going to get it for sure. Heh.

 

I didn't know about the metasurface. That's next level shit.

 

 

 

yep. i hope it gets updated soon, i think it's a cool software that deserves more recognition.

 

Ross B. made a post on the official forums to tell that 64Bit version is on its way...Expect an update before summer.

  On 2/3/2015 at 2:45 PM, chunky said:

whats that synth that was made in the 80s by a frenchman and it has loads of leds that you can touch to draw harmonics?

according to david morley (on a forum post) aphex twin owns one. the guy tried to make a new one a few years ago but they couldn't get enough money to back the project. that would be such a good kickstarter if we tracked down that guy. also there's a vst effect similar to the functionality of that synth. anyone know?

 

you mean UPIC?

there is soft version of russian analog called ANS (was made way before UPIC actually) from creator of Sunvox:

http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/ans/

  On 2/4/2015 at 9:59 AM, m0rb1d said:

 

Definitely going to check out Audiomulch after that clip.
  On 2/4/2015 at 5:10 AM, logakght said:

 

  On 2/4/2015 at 3:29 AM, cloud capture said:

www.audiomulch.com

it has potential, tho it hasn't been updated for a long time now.

 

 

  On 2/4/2015 at 3:29 AM, m0rb1d said:

Does Kyma count?

no cuz its kinda impossible to get unless you're dead fucking serious about sound design.

 

Eh, I got my Capybara used for under $800 dollars and they pop up on eBay every couple months. That's tangible(ish) considering the depth and quality.

https://soundcloud.com/insergent/rainstick

 

 

yeah i meant that Kyma its really the ultimate sound design tool, and it only is for the serious sound designers

not upic

 

maybe it's canadian not french

 

it was mentioned by david morley on muffwiggler forums

tried to find the post but he has 3000 posts on that site

he said afx owns one

 

resynthesizer or something

there's a video on youtube with a 90s style 3d animation and music from that machine

 

on the net there's a story of a guy in the 1980s who found the synth at a trade show and he really loved it but he couldnt afford it. then later he got in touch with the inventor and they tried to make a new one but they couldnt get enough interest.

What gestapo shit is this, why can't I edit old posts like before? Do I need to donate moar money for the ultra-duper account??

 

Maybe the software version of what you're looking for is Audio-Term (immediate dl; https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fs%2F1y0d88ts8zy1um7%2FAudio-Term.zip&redir_token=6wYWutRK4uTcjy5V8ZcTR8c8OJV8MTQyMzIxNTgwN0AxNDIzMTI5NDA3), this used to be called Transwave?

 

You can for example create wavetables out of samples and do a whole bunch of manipulation

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Ysi9FLxQs

 

I think if you have the right monitor + lightpen you can also draw/control the program like you could with the fairlight & upic system

 

 

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there's things like frequency domain stuff like mammut to check out; http://www.notam02.no/web/2005/10/mammut-2/?lang=en

Or Spear; http://www.klingbeil.com/spear/

 

Also worth checking out imo is;

 

Photosounder - image-sound synthesizer; http://photosounder.com/

( Coagula - an image synth ( https://www.abc.se/~re/Coagula/Coagula.html))

 

Image to sound can also be done with the free Audiopaint program (official site down, maybe this alternative works; http://audiopaint.software.informer.com/3.0/ ) besides sinewaves you can also load in your own .wavs as input. Can generate nice granular clouds with it. Add something like photoshop to the mix and you can shape your musical gestures visually (time is x-axis, frequency scale is y-axis, colors determine left and right panning mix).

 

Made a couple of musique concrete pieces through this technique, processing fieldrecordings, making the collages in a wave editor;

https://soundcloud.com/plugexpert/2-richard-jonas-ginderlaag

https://soundcloud.com/plugexpert/4-richard-jonas-draai

 

 

 

 

 

 

  On 2/5/2015 at 10:47 AM, Djeroek said:

Maybe the software version of what you're looking for is Audio-Term (immediate dl; https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fs%2F1y0d88ts8zy1um7%2FAudio-Term.zip&redir_token=6wYWutRK4uTcjy5V8ZcTR8c8OJV8MTQyMzIxNTgwN0AxNDIzMTI5NDA3), this used to be called Transwave?

 

You can for example create wavetables out of samples and do a whole bunch of manipulation

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Ysi9FLxQs

 

I think if you have the right monitor + lightpen you can also draw/control the program like you could with the fairlight & upic system

A slightly easier version of that is the lovely Xfer Serum -

 

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I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily.

  On 2/5/2015 at 2:43 PM, logakght said:

Serum is a CPU hungry slut in my laptop.

Aye on mine too - Though the new beta builds have been slightly more friendly on system resources. It's definitely a 'render to disk' kinda thing with current CPUs at the moment !

I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily.

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