Guest trananhhung Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) On 2/22/2015 at 4:06 PM, fenton said: On 2/21/2015 at 11:32 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/19/2015 at 12:00 PM, phling said: So much truth in this post that it hurts. Guys, Hollywood is dead. You can't expect anything good coming out of it. It's filled with people with no taste and the few that have it are totally controlled by system. They want to appeal to everyone and make the most insipid products. It's not cinema anymore. We have an entire generation who grew up with videogame narratives writing films. Games aren't turning cinematic, films are turning into videogames. Sweeping generalisation that has been valid since Hollywoods conception and is no more valid or correct now. You know absolutely zero about film history, don't you? I'm talking about how the language of film has changed into something that isn't cinema anymore and that is highly influenced by videogame style narratives and exposition. Compare the original Robocop with the recent remake. Or see the last Tolkien films. I'm taking about editing and visual composition and framing. If you can't see how that's changed in Hollywood i can only assume you know nothing. And I'm just talking about technical details. During the 40s you had William Faulkner, Raymond chandler and Hemingway writing scripts for Hollywood. Who do you have now? Sorry for being the angel of doom but if you can't understand that Hollywood hasn't changed then there's nothing I can do about it. Edited February 22, 2015 by trananhhung Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkaholic Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 On 2/22/2015 at 7:15 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/22/2015 at 4:06 PM, fenton said: On 2/21/2015 at 11:32 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/19/2015 at 12:00 PM, phling said: So much truth in this post that it hurts. Guys, Hollywood is dead. You can't expect anything good coming out of it. It's filled with people with no taste and the few that have it are totally controlled by system. They want to appeal to everyone and make the most insipid products. It's not cinema anymore. We have an entire generation who grew up with videogame narratives writing films. Games aren't turning cinematic, films are turning into videogames. Sweeping generalisation that has been valid since Hollywoods conception and is no more valid or correct now. You know absolutely zero about film history, don't you? I'm talking about how the language of film has changed into something that isn't cinema anymore and that is highly influenced by videogame style narratives and exposition. Compare the original Robocop with the recent remake. Or see the last Tolkien films. I'm taking about editing and visual composition and framing. If you can't see how that's changed in Hollywood ican only assume you know nothing. And I'm just talking about technical details. During the 40s you had William Faulkner, Raymond chandler and Hemingway writing scripts for Hollywood. Who do you have now? Sorry for being the angel of doom but if you can't understand that Hollywood hasn't changed then there's nothing I can do about it. yeah i've noticed this too, can provide any links to articles about this? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I recommend checking out Redlettermedia.com, they are fun and cool hollywood movies critics. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gaarg's signature Hide all signatures www.petergaber.com is where I keep my paintings. I used to have a kinky tumblr, but it exploded. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 On 2/22/2015 at 7:15 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/22/2015 at 4:06 PM, fenton said: On 2/21/2015 at 11:32 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/19/2015 at 12:00 PM, phling said: So much truth in this post that it hurts. Guys, Hollywood is dead. You can't expect anything good coming out of it. It's filled with people with no taste and the few that have it are totally controlled by system. They want to appeal to everyone and make the most insipid products. It's not cinema anymore. We have an entire generation who grew up with videogame narratives writing films. Games aren't turning cinematic, films are turning into videogames. Sweeping generalisation that has been valid since Hollywoods conception and is no more valid or correct now. You know absolutely zero about film history, don't you? I'm talking about how the language of film has changed into something that isn't cinema anymore and that is highly influenced by videogame style narratives and exposition. Compare the original Robocop with the recent remake. Or see the last Tolkien films. I'm taking about editing and visual composition and framing. If you can't see how that's changed in Hollywood ican only assume you know nothing. And I'm just talking about technical details. During the 40s you had William Faulkner, Raymond chandler and Hemingway writing scripts for Hollywood. Who do you have now? Sorry for being the angel of doom but if you can't understand that Hollywood hasn't changed then there's nothing I can do about it. http://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenton Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) On 2/22/2015 at 7:15 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/22/2015 at 4:06 PM, fenton said: On 2/21/2015 at 11:32 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/19/2015 at 12:00 PM, phling said: So much truth in this post that it hurts. Guys, Hollywood is dead. You can't expect anything good coming out of it. It's filled with people with no taste and the few that have it are totally controlled by system. They want to appeal to everyone and make the most insipid products. It's not cinema anymore. We have an entire generation who grew up with videogame narratives writing films. Games aren't turning cinematic, films are turning into videogames. Sweeping generalisation that has been valid since Hollywoods conception and is no more valid or correct now. You know absolutely zero about film history, don't you? I'm talking about how the language of film has changed into something that isn't cinema anymore and that is highly influenced by videogame style narratives and exposition. Compare the original Robocop with the recent remake. Or see the last Tolkien films. I'm taking about editing and visual composition and framing. If you can't see how that's changed in Hollywood ican only assume you know nothing. And I'm just talking about technical details. During the 40s you had William Faulkner, Raymond chandler and Hemingway writing scripts for Hollywood. Who do you have now? Sorry for being the angel of doom but if you can't understand that Hollywood hasn't changed then there's nothing I can do about it. I'm not into debating who knows most with someone who knows nothing about me, but are you trying to say that the ratio of famous novelists writing screenplays was higher then? Is that an undisputed fact that someone has bothered to prove or are you just biased towards novelists from the 40s and assume that every script they wrote was gold? And have you sat down and watched every film from 1940 and made unbiased notes and then done this with those from 2014 [even an equal sized random selection]. Cos all I'm saying is that your rose tinted view of film history is probably just that, and unless you were around then to see it with your own eyes and not through academia delivered in a world Criteron DVD reissues and retro film festivals then I can only assume you know nothing. Edited February 22, 2015 by fenton Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fenton's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWwIShuoX4 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Lol wow I'm learning so much about film history just by casually reading a WATMM thread about the potential Alien 5 that might be directed by the weak-ass Neil Blomkap. Amazing how great the internet is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenton Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) On 2/22/2015 at 9:05 PM, auxien said: Lol wow I'm learning so much about film history just by casually reading a WATMM thread about the potential Alien 5 that might be directed by the weak-ass Neil Blomkap. Amazing how great the internet is. I just recently learned that nothing means anything at all even slightly nada and I've been viewing movies completely different since although my lecturer says what I am saying doesn't make any sense but who the fuck is he washed up failure fuck off. Edited February 22, 2015 by fenton Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fenton's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWwIShuoX4 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkaholic Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 On 2/22/2015 at 8:10 PM, gaarg said: I recommend checking out Redlettermedia.com, they are fun and cool hollywood movies critics. oh yeah, love there reviews Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 On 2/22/2015 at 8:42 PM, fenton said: On 2/22/2015 at 7:15 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/22/2015 at 4:06 PM, fenton said: On 2/21/2015 at 11:32 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/19/2015 at 12:00 PM, phling said: So much truth in this post that it hurts. Guys, Hollywood is dead. You can't expect anything good coming out of it. It's filled with people with no taste and the few that have it are totally controlled by system. They want to appeal to everyone and make the most insipid products. It's not cinema anymore. We have an entire generation who grew up with videogame narratives writing films. Games aren't turning cinematic, films are turning into videogames. Sweeping generalisation that has been valid since Hollywoods conception and is no more valid or correct now. You know absolutely zero about film history, don't you? I'm talking about how the language of film has changed into something that isn't cinema anymore and that is highly influenced by videogame style narratives and exposition. Compare the original Robocop with the recent remake. Or see the last Tolkien films. I'm taking about editing and visual composition and framing. If you can't see how that's changed in Hollywood ican only assume you know nothing. And I'm just talking about technical details. During the 40s you had William Faulkner, Raymond chandler and Hemingway writing scripts for Hollywood. Who do you have now? Sorry for being the angel of doom but if you can't understand that Hollywood hasn't changed then there's nothing I can do about it. I'm not into debating who knows most with someone who knows nothing about me, but are you trying to say that the ratio of famous novelists writing screenplays was higher then? Is that an undisputed fact that someone has bothered to prove or are you just biased towards novelists from the 40s and assume that every script they wrote was gold? And have you sat down and watched every film from 1940 and made unbiased notes and then done this with those from 2014 [even an equal sized random selection]. Cos all I'm saying is that your rose tinted view of film history is probably just that, and unless you were around then to see it with your own eyes and not through academia delivered in a world Criteron DVD reissues and retro film festivals then I can only assume you know nothing. oh look some guy on the internet has an opinion, i better take it as gospel. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2294913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Well it's not exactly a secret that Hollywood has reached a new low. You dont have to be a naive millennial or a lame dad to state the obvious. More sequels/reboots than ever, etc. shit everywhere, etc. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Birdman was somewhat refreshing and the awards it took last night kinda sorta show that maybe there's some breath left in Hollywood... but that's different, there's defo nothing left for the Alien "franchise", it's been molested way too much already.. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Unrelated, but I wish they had handed it to Cuarón instead, I don't think Blomkamp is the right guy for this franchise at all. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 yeah Elysium was pretty shit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 On 2/23/2015 at 7:34 PM, BCM said: yeah Elysium was pretty shit i like it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 On 2/23/2015 at 7:34 PM, BCM said: yeah Elysium was pretty shit The script was pretty dodgy in places, and more than a couple of overly cheesy directorial choices. Overall it was mildly entertaining but visually excellent. District 9 was much better, Chappie could go either way, one of the trailers makes it look terrible, another great. I get the impression writing may be his main flaw, working with a great script he could make a great Alien I think. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) i really liked district 9, just thought elysium was yeah, bit cheesy really. Edited February 23, 2015 by BCM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyramidpanes Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 planeian 5 - a bunch of planes bursting out of trains Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 How does Alien poop look like. How does it smell. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 On 2/24/2015 at 8:51 PM, phling said: How does Alien poop look like. How does it smell. Hey, Alien poop. Man, you look and smell just like I feel. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 this would be a worthwhile theme for the film, at last.. btw I'm reading that Gibson Alien 3 script and it's bollcoks Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 On 2/22/2015 at 7:15 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/22/2015 at 4:06 PM, fenton said: On 2/21/2015 at 11:32 PM, trananhhung said: On 2/19/2015 at 12:00 PM, phling said: So much truth in this post that it hurts. Guys, Hollywood is dead. You can't expect anything good coming out of it. It's filled with people with no taste and the few that have it are totally controlled by system. They want to appeal to everyone and make the most insipid products. It's not cinema anymore. We have an entire generation who grew up with videogame narratives writing films. Games aren't turning cinematic, films are turning into videogames. Sweeping generalisation that has been valid since Hollywoods conception and is no more valid or correct now. You know absolutely zero about film history, don't you? I'm talking about how the language of film has changed into something that isn't cinema anymore and that is highly influenced by videogame style narratives and exposition. Compare the original Robocop with the recent remake. Or see the last Tolkien films. I'm taking about editing and visual composition and framing. If you can't see how that's changed in Hollywood ican only assume you know nothing. And I'm just talking about technical details. During the 40s you had William Faulkner, Raymond chandler and Hemingway writing scripts for Hollywood. Who do you have now? Sorry for being the angel of doom but if you can't understand that Hollywood hasn't changed then there's nothing I can do about it. Unfortunately, although H-Wood has always been a self-serving business, now more than ever its productions are lowest common denominator trash. The sheer fact that Birdman AND Whiplash got released this year is a miracle in itself. And of all people didnt Will Ferrell come out with summat about jack of all trades/hard time to make decent movies recently too (and b4 any1 judges that statement i properly lol @ some of his buffoonery). Alien FIVE doe? As Colonel Walter Kurtz once explained,,,,,,,"the horror,,,,,,,the horror,,,,,,,,," Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2295859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olo Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 On 2/24/2015 at 9:31 PM, cwmbrancity said: Alien FIVE doe? As Colonel Walter Kurtz once explained,,,,,,,"the horror,,,,,,,the horror,,,,,,,,," I think it's perfect time for Hollywood to start working on "Apocalypse Now Again" Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide olo's signature Hide all signatures Thanks user487363530. And user4873635301. Now 48736353001. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2296180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I love the smell of sequels in the morning Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86758-alien-5/page/4/#findComment-2296181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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