Why do most electronic producers have macbook pros?

  On 6/1/2015 at 12:17 AM, wyvern said:

Linux: barely any software, but all free.

 

Bitwig, Renoise, Reaper. None of them free, but Reaper is nagware.

Haha, woke up this morning to a user profile error meaning I can't log in to windows at all. Backing everything up now before running some tutorials to fix.

Ironic considering all this discussion of Windows Vs Mac. This has occurred as no fault of my own and is most likely due to Windows simultaneously booting a virus scan/windows update at startup...:(

that's the thing...windows is a fucking ball ache. doesn't matter how much power you got if you can't use the bloody thing. i think most producers want something that just lets them get on with making music rather than having to fuck around for ages before you can even start up your DAW...by that point you've had your head done right in and don't want to think about music making anymore. if you just want to get on with stuff, want something that always works and doesn't make you want to pull your hair out - don't get a windows machine. look, if you really can't face buying a mac because it's "too corporate" or you just "hate apple" (usually for no readily apparent reason) then go down the hardware multitrack and hardware sequencer route instead....just don't use windows...

  On 5/30/2015 at 2:02 PM, Squee said:

Change the title to "why do most producers use Mac?" and the answer would be Logic and Pro Tools

why do macs have an advantage for protools? i use it for college, works fine on my PC

  On 6/1/2015 at 2:23 PM, BCM said:

that's the thing...windows is a fucking ball ache. doesn't matter how much power you got if you can't use the bloody thing. i think most producers want something that just lets them get on with making music rather than having to fuck around for ages before you can even start up your DAW...by that point you've had your head done right in and don't want to think about music making anymore. if you just want to get on with stuff, want something that always works and doesn't make you want to pull your hair out - don't get a windows machine. look, if you really can't face buying a mac because it's "too corporate" or you just "hate apple" (usually for no readily apparent reason) then go down the hardware multitrack and hardware sequencer route instead....just don't use windows...

also this makes no sense to me, built my new pc 2 years ago and havent had a single issue with production on windows 7.

Reliability. I've never had a PC run smooth for more than a couple of years but my Macbook (non pro 2009 edition?) has no problems and I've had it since it was released (actually thats a slight lie - I had to change the battery once). It is running slower after the latest OS update but it still runs everything fine and it isn't slow enough to be a problem.

The 'feel' of the OS and hardware are much nicer where as windows PCs tend to feel like a chore to me.

I wouldn't buy a PC unless I decided to get into PC gaming or something.

At the end of the day its just down to preference tho, init?

  On 6/1/2015 at 12:47 AM, psn said:

 

  On 6/1/2015 at 12:17 AM, wyvern said:

Linux: barely any software, but all free.

 

Bitwig, Renoise, Reaper. None of them free, but Reaper is nagware.

 

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Yeah, I still wonder if the convenience of it apparently always working (Mac) versus the relative stability of a more powerful and probably cheaper windows system is worth the extra cash. Sounds like the mac OS might be more suited perhaps for audio production straight away in other respects though...I personally don't have a preference for one or the other so it's interesting to hear the pros and cons from audio enthusiasts rather than people just hating on one platform or another.

my god! logic and pragmatism of windows/pc people could easily put spock to shame

i wonder if they're so pragmatic in other things in life too? i really hope not

also, if macbook pro would cost the same as pc laptop of the same specs which one would they use?

are we really speaking about money here? is money important only when we buy computers?

  On 6/1/2015 at 9:41 PM, xox said:

 

also, if macbook pro would cost the same as pc laptop of the same specs which one would they use?

They do, take a look at prices of the Thinkpad T and W series. Comparing MBPs to consumer PCs doesnt make sense.

  On 6/1/2015 at 10:20 PM, Psychotronic said:

 

  On 6/1/2015 at 9:41 PM, xox said:

 

also, if macbook pro would cost the same as pc laptop of the same specs which one would they use?

 

They do, take a look at prices of the Thinkpad T and W series. Comparing MBPs to consumer PCs doesnt make sense.

 

my ThinkPad X230 is considerably more repairable and upgradeable than any MacBook past or present, and future.

  On 6/1/2015 at 10:39 PM, oscillik said:

 

  On 6/1/2015 at 10:20 PM, Psychotronic said:

 

  On 6/1/2015 at 9:41 PM, xox said:

 

also, if macbook pro would cost the same as pc laptop of the same specs which one would they use?

 

They do, take a look at prices of the Thinkpad T and W series. Comparing MBPs to consumer PCs doesnt make sense.

 

my ThinkPad X230 is considerably more repairable and upgradeable than any MacBook past or present, and future.

 

yo' girls! remember?

  On 5/30/2015 at 5:32 PM, Polytrix said:

This is getting more and more convincing.. :(

Not an apple hater (I'm a sucker for the iPhone) but I've used plenty of macs and still come back to PCs for music making, if you're not a total dumbass you will have very few problems and unless you have a side career as a video editor or really want to use logic, you're not missing out on much. Asio interfaces, a solid build with the daw of your choice, plus loads and loads of VSTs and standalone programs from ages past and today. No proprietary AU bullshit. What's not to like?

  On 6/1/2015 at 4:47 PM, QQQ said:

Reliability. I've never had a PC run smooth for more than a couple of years but my Macbook (non pro 2009 edition?) has no problems and I've had it since it was released (actually thats a slight lie - I had to change the battery once). It is running slower after the latest OS update but it still runs everything fine and it isn't slow enough to be a problem.

 

The 'feel' of the OS and hardware are much nicer where as windows PCs tend to feel like a chore to me.

 

I wouldn't buy a PC unless I decided to get into PC gaming or something.

 

At the end of the day its just down to preference tho, init?

This, my family shared a macbook from 2006 until about 2012. It was on all day everyday almost constantly being used by 5 different people. Thing is a bit slow now but it still works.

  On 6/2/2015 at 12:41 AM, chim said:

 

  On 5/30/2015 at 5:32 PM, Polytrix said:

This is getting more and more convincing.. :(

Don't believe their lies

 

Not an apple hater (I'm a sucker for the iPhone) but I've used plenty of macs and still come back to PCs for music making, if you're not a total dumbass you will have very few problems and unless you have a side career as a video editor or really want to use logic, you're not missing out on much. Asio interfaces, a solid build with the daw of your choice, plus loads and loads of VSTs and standalone programs from ages past and today. No proprietary AU bullshit. What's not to like?

I guess I'm not really interested in loading my music making computer up with a million different things to try out (as much as I say it won't happen, it always happens with my PCs). On my macbook I have renoise, reaper, reaktor, a couple of audio editors and chiptune utilities and that's about it. Oh and also the adobe design suite, which runs like shit on every PC I've used it on.

  On 6/1/2015 at 7:05 PM, Psychotronic said:

 

  On 6/1/2015 at 12:47 AM, psn said:

 

  On 6/1/2015 at 12:17 AM, wyvern said:

Linux: barely any software, but all free.

 

Bitwig, Renoise, Reaper. None of them free, but Reaper is nagware.

 

 

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you make music with those? i would like to hear some. :)

i have a decent laptop and thinking of downloading linux in it. what distro are you using?

i never really understood reasons for using linux for music production.

Most of the recording/tv/movie industry is Mac based, even AutoDesk is trying to reclaim a place in that market.

  On 6/2/2015 at 4:48 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Most of the recording/tv/movie industry is Mac based, even AutoDesk is trying to reclaim a place in that market.

Yeah. Macs are standardized for the most part compared to PCs. It's annoying when new OSX versions break things for anything Avid based, but usually waiting a year before upgrading keeps things safe.

mac haters gonna hate, pc race best race Aryan race perfect race, meme etc. meme.

Meanwhile linux users still setting up linux.

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i never really understood reasons for using linux for music production.

 

really? Linux is easily the best.

Check out these 10 snazzy/sexy music/audio production/creation tools/methods for Ubuntu/Linux! I use all of them.

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if you're not a total dumbass you will have very few problems

That's the issue though! Humans are that by definition, so you should reconsider getting a mac. And if you've already reconsidered it, you should re-reconsider it. There are simply too many viruses from too much porn one can get with a PC. Mac? You can have your music production and eat porn too.

Btw, have you FUCKING SEEN much less TOUCHED the trackpad on the Mac? HOLY SHIT. It's like touching baby's skin. So soft.

  On 6/2/2015 at 12:23 PM, kymppinetti said:

you make music with those? i would like to hear some. :)

k, this is the intro for my current set:

https://soundcloud.com/psychotronic/chikyu-no-seishin

I preproduce all audio material in renoise with some plugs, then put all of that stuff into my octatrack. The rest is done and recorded all live with the OT, a microkorg, a behringer X-Air-12 and a field recorder, i dont do post production currently, because i prepare for some gigs in august and september.

  On 6/2/2015 at 12:23 PM, kymppinetti said:

what distro are you using?

I use arch linux.

  On 6/2/2015 at 2:26 PM, xox said:

i never really understood reasons for using linux for music production.

For me this is basically the need for just one operating system. No dual boot anymore. This is now possible, since u-he released all their plugs as linux vsts. I don't like mac, because some expensive mac hardware died on me some years ago. But everything i do can easily be done on all operating systems. No flame war here, just personal preference, nothing more.

well i know there's some (or many) reasons for using linux for music production but imo they're not as many as for windows or osx, especially in the pro world

  On 6/2/2015 at 6:48 PM, Brisbot said:

Btw, have you FUCKING SEEN much less TOUCHED the trackpad on the Mac? HOLY SHIT. It's like touching baby's skin. So soft.

 

I like nipples.

Uh, that's not a nipple. I can't believe you think that's a nipple. Nipples don't exist.

OMFG.

Plus, Everyone knows babies are made in a factory and brought to you by storks paid minimum wage. Fuck the govt. and fuck minimum wage! I say we strike for better wages for storks! That way our babies don't come down splattering across the concrete like delicious watermelons across concrete... as well. I'm thirsty, and am having mirages. I guess I should go get a drink...