Does the music you make give you the same feeling when you listen to it as you favorite tunes.

I've been a big BOC fan for years, but came across this tune for the first time a few weeks ago . It blew me away. It got me thinking, I've yet to get the same kick from my own music that I get from listening to my favorite tunes, and if I ever would. I make some sounds I love, but nothing like the kick I get when I listen to the tune below! How do you other producers feel?

I made a thread about destroying your ego to create a bit of discussion about this kinda thing (this is part of what I was trying to talk about, but communicated it poorly).

I don't think it's possible to get the same feeling to be honest. You know your tracks too well, and there has to be some sense of unknowing/mystery/unfamiliarity to get the kinda chills you get from listening to a particularly brilliant track. Obviously there are different achievements and feelings to be had from making music as well.

I agree by the way, phenomenal track.

  On 11/1/2015 at 9:54 PM, QQQ said:

I made a thread about destroying your ego to create a bit of discussion about this kinda thing (this is part of what I was trying to talk about, but communicated it poorly).

 

I don't think it's possible to get the same feeling to be honest. You know your tracks too well, and there has to be some sense of unknowing/mystery/unfamiliarity to get the kinda chills you get from listening to a particularly brilliant track. Obviously there are different achievements and feelings to be had from making music as well.

 

I agree by the way, phenomenal track.

i think you can overcome this familiarity with your own tracks though, which is a question of time.

Works like that for me anyway: when I'm at the point where I consider I finished working on a given track, I'm really unable to tell if I find it good or bad anymore. I'm only able to remember I used to love it during its making process and that's what pushes me to share it with others. Then I need several month to be able to be a listener of that track again (which doesn't prevent me to try listening to it anyways and getting frustrated about it because I can't really get into it any more). Then time goes and I kind of forget the track. Some months after that there will always be a time where I'm ready to be a listener for my own track again, I'll play it and will be able to appreciate it with proper perspective. Most of the time it's very refreshing and I think I'm actually able to enjoy it the same way I would enjoy music of artists I love. Sometimes it also happens that I don't like some elements of the track, but that's also kinda refreshing because I feel pretty lucid about it. Maybe it's kind of important to sometimes do something you'll end up not liking?

develop a split personality and make ur tracks with personality #1 but listen as personality #2

  On 11/1/2015 at 10:35 PM, Antape said:

 

i think you can overcome this familiarity with your own tracks though, which is a question of time.

 

Yeah, I agree with everything you said. Though for me it takes a bit more time to get to that point. Sometimes many years—some of my older stuff from 10+ years ago is super abstract and innovative in retrospect, but to my ears at the time I could only think of it as its layout in Buzz.

I definitely get that feeling from my own tracks, much more frequently than from other people's creations, to be honest, except for Autechre of course. It's mostly because I find songs I recorded a long time ago and have no memory of, so it's like hearing it for the first time. Sometimes it seriously sounds really good, and I have no idea how I did the vast majority of it. I could always open up the original project file for it, but that would ruin the mystery.

  On 11/1/2015 at 10:35 PM, Antape said:

 

  On 11/1/2015 at 9:54 PM, QQQ said:

I made a thread about destroying your ego to create a bit of discussion about this kinda thing (this is part of what I was trying to talk about, but communicated it poorly).

 

I don't think it's possible to get the same feeling to be honest. You know your tracks too well, and there has to be some sense of unknowing/mystery/unfamiliarity to get the kinda chills you get from listening to a particularly brilliant track. Obviously there are different achievements and feelings to be had from making music as well.

 

I agree by the way, phenomenal track.

 

i think you can overcome this familiarity with your own tracks though, which is a question of time.

 

Works like that for me anyway: when I'm at the point where I consider I finished working on a given track, I'm really unable to tell if I find it good or bad anymore. I'm only able to remember I used to love it during its making process and that's what pushes me to share it with others. Then I need several month to be able to be a listener of that track again (which doesn't prevent me to try listening to it anyways and getting frustrated about it because I can't really get into it any more). Then time goes and I kind of forget the track. Some months after that there will always be a time where I'm ready to be a listener for my own track again, I'll play it and will be able to appreciate it with proper perspective. Most of the time it's very refreshing and I think I'm actually able to enjoy it the same way I would enjoy music of artists I love. Sometimes it also happens that I don't like some elements of the track, but that's also kinda refreshing because I feel pretty lucid about it. Maybe it's kind of important to sometimes do something you'll end up not liking?

 

This is a really good description of my experience making tracks as well. I often find that I need to make _another_ track first before I can have any perspective on the track I just made. So I usually wait at least until then, i.e. until the latest track is at least the second-latest track. Hope that makes some sense. But yeah, time is the most important factor.

  On 11/1/2015 at 11:19 PM, drillkicker said:

and I have no idea how I did the vast majority of it.

definitely agree that the passage of time makes a big difference, but even then there's something different from my stuff that I like listening to the most compared to my favourite tracks by others. I think a lot of that has to do with disappointment though, because I tend to lazily abandon tracks and constantly think of things I should've done to improve them afterwards.

After time has passed, yeah I get that special feelin' from my own tunes. Like everyone else said, its usually some time after I forget how I made it, so instead of hearing layers & layout I hear the thing as a unified whole. Love that feeling!

The kick I get from when I'm creating something, is unlike the kick I get from listening to something else. I would say I enjoy that feeling of my creation more. Even though it's not as good as other music, something about it means it's a feeling unrivalled by anything else.

It can happen. Usually when I'm listening back to everything after a really writing session where I haven't been scratching my head for ages and everything flowed. It's really cool when it happens. Doesn't happen often enough though.

This will sound really unmagical but I think that normally we tend to "not feel" our tracks as amazing as other's tracks is because we know the process behind ours. We already know the "magic" behind it, while we blissfully ignore the techniques of others.

I also find that the tracks other people think are amazing are often ones I don't think of as my best. That said though, and tying in with logakght's comment above, it may be due to me knowing the process and/or picking up on the mistakes which other people might consider to be positive features.

Mostly yes. Also, with my music I can make myself cry no prob. Usually i only cry on ae and beethoven. Im not saying im as good they are but only that sometimes i really like what i make...and i make music only when i cant find supstitutes in other's music, that day.

  On 11/2/2015 at 1:31 PM, xox said:

Mostly yes. Also, with my music I can make myself cry no prob. Usually i only cry on ae and beethoven. Im not saying im as good they are but only that sometimes i really like what i make...and i make music only when i cant find supstitutes in other's music, that day.

Man, I haven't cried to music in ages. I don't even remember the last time I've cried at all. I've just been adhering to a strictly stoic lifestyle for a while now. I envy you and your ability to keep in touch with human emotions without getting into an awful depression.

Nope. Well, once or twice I gave myself the 'shivers' or whatever. It takes me not listening to one of my tracks for like 6 months, and it has to be one of my best ones.
Then again I don't get the shivers from much

  On 11/2/2015 at 5:38 PM, drillkicker said:

 

  On 11/2/2015 at 1:31 PM, xox said:

Mostly yes. Also, with my music I can make myself cry no prob. Usually i only cry on ae and beethoven. Im not saying im as good they are but only that sometimes i really like what i make...and i make music only when i cant find supstitutes in other's music, that day.

Man, I haven't cried to music in ages. I don't even remember the last time I've cried at all. I've just been adhering to a strictly stoic lifestyle for a while now. I envy you and your ability to keep in touch with human emotions without getting into an awful depression.

 

i guess i can cry on music (sadness crying) cause my belief system is very optimistic so no frears, only trears

i uploaded this track only for this post, just to show you with what kind of tracks i'm killing my self with. it's a work in progress and maybe it's not powerful enough in this 1 min form but after 10 min of this i'm half dead. i only started to compose it cause i couldn't find anything similar to liste to that day...and i felt very sad that day, very sad...and a bit of angry...

https://soundcloud.com/notein/sil3-excerpt

but i don't cry on music only when it makes me sad, more often it's when i'm so overwhelmed that my physical body can't stand it any more; like with a track in the autechre LA2008 live recording that starts @20:02, such powerful build up! and then @25:50 mark when that melody enters.(!!!!!) i cried in the dark! will never forget that moment.

i could give you many similar examples.

...and sometimes i'm crushed with both, when i'm overwhelmed by greatness AND sadness; like with the double fugue in 2nd movement of beethoven's 3rd symphony: pressure!

that track is amazing!

That's a great track, but it doesn't really sound sad to me. Just cool.

The last memory I have of actually getting emotional was when I was listening to Current 93 in public and holding back tears on "The Bloodbells Chime," "A Song for Douglas After He's Dead," and "Mary Waits in Silence," but that was back in the first half of the year. After depression, I've just tried to distance myself from sadness as much as possible, and it's been working out pretty well so far.

I find i enjoy listening to my tracks a lot more after a long period of avoiding them (e.g. half a year plus)

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:23 AM, drillkicker said:

That's a great track, but it doesn't really sound sad to me. Just cool.

 

The last memory I have of actually getting emotional was when I was listening to Current 93 in public and holding back tears on "The Bloodbells Chime," "A Song for Douglas After He's Dead," and "Mary Waits in Silence," but that was back in the first half of the year. After depression, I've just tried to distance myself from sadness as much as possible, and it's been working out pretty well so far.

Depression is one twerriblle# condition! Glad to hear ur ok now.

Will have to check those c93 trax later, going to work now.

  On 11/3/2015 at 12:47 AM, modey said:

that track is amazing!

Phenx ;)

...if you're referring to my track

  On 11/3/2015 at 7:25 AM, xox said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 1:23 AM, drillkicker said:

That's a great track, but it doesn't really sound sad to me. Just cool.

 

The last memory I have of actually getting emotional was when I was listening to Current 93 in public and holding back tears on "The Bloodbells Chime," "A Song for Douglas After He's Dead," and "Mary Waits in Silence," but that was back in the first half of the year. After depression, I've just tried to distance myself from sadness as much as possible, and it's been working out pretty well so far.

Thnx. Yaa maybe 'sad' is not the right word but it is on that spectrum and i find it quite emotionally charged.

 

Depression is one twerriblle# condition! Glad to hear ur ok now.

 

Will have to check those c93 trax later, going to work now.

Listen to those songs at your own risk, especially with that first one. If you're planning on having a pleasant time, then it may disappoint you. The third one isn't sad, but it's sublime in a way that makes me cry just from the utter beauty.

  On 11/3/2015 at 7:29 AM, xox said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 12:47 AM, modey said:

that track is amazing!

Phenx ;)

 

...if you're referring to my track

 

+1

I'd love to listen to the whole piece once it's done.