Does the music you make give you the same feeling when you listen to it as you favorite tunes.

well to me there are three things:

 

stuff is continuous, time is continuous, but the observer is discrete

  On 11/8/2015 at 7:07 PM, Oscar said:

No, it doesn't.

 

This is to the OP's question, btw, not the post above me.

I have to say this thread is a awesome read. Thanks for you thoughts. For me I think its something I'll just keep chasing! I do agree on time making my own tunes easier to listen too, once I regard them as finished. Thanks again.

  On 11/8/2015 at 5:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

indian classical music is super IDM. fast tabla drumming can sound like aphex or untilted-era autechre

 

Mark Fell is very passionate about indian classical music and considers it an influence on his sound.

Edited November 11, 2015 by hello spiral

  On 11/11/2015 at 2:11 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

spi - how have you been getting into that objective mindset you mentioned? any tricks for activating it?

You must align your chakras and perform auto-erotic asphyxiation. Not only will you be able to listen to your music objectively but you will have the most intense orgasm of your life.

I'd say for me it's a balancing act of relaxing and taking a step back from over-analysis while still remaining focused, it's hard to explain.

 

One thing I do regularly is go for very long walks while listening to music. Around 3-5 hours. I usually have a few of my things on standby if I get into that zone where everything is revealing itself to me when listening, know what I mean? When I get into that state of mind I'll chuck some of my stuff on during the walk just like it's some more random music on my phone.

 

Edit: what QQQ said also works yeah. Be sure to cum in your own mouth though. The post orgasmic haze is an ideal window for cum theft.

Edited November 11, 2015 by hello spiral

I think it probably helps (correct me if i'm wrong spi) that you consider music as a very loose term. As in, anything is music. It's a perfect way to get your own style too. If you just do what you want and write/record/play/happen upon stuff you like to hear or enjoy rather than trying to aspire to a sound then you're halfway there.

Generally speaking, varying your listening context always helps against boredom with your own music. When I do long sessions I switch between speakers and headphones every hour or so because I feel it keeps me concentrated longer, it always gives me more perspective. Bouncing a version on the track and listening to it in a completely other context is probably a good idea too but I never think about doing it.

TO answer OP: No not in the same way. Usually this is because it's me. It's like im watching myself do something. i remember each motion and why i did it and whats coming next. Which makes it very distracting and weird to have my tracks playing loud for other people.

but yea time can help with all of that. Listening to old stuff is very amusing because i forget whats coming next and I made choices i would not make now. So elements of the song feel more unexpected and exciting.

 

-On Crying: Wow, Never cried to my own stuff. and Ive got some pretty sad sounding things form way back. even songs i have with friends who have died. what's weird is that any type of music can make me cry if the mood is right or if my head is in a certain place and something comes on the aligns with that.

  On 11/11/2015 at 3:29 PM, Chesney said:

I think it probably helps (correct me if i'm wrong spi) that you consider music as a very loose term. As in, anything is music. It's a perfect way to get your own style too. If you just do what you want and write/record/play/happen upon stuff you like to hear or enjoy rather than trying to aspire to a sound then you're halfway there.

 

Yeah good point. I'm all about chance and indeterminacy. I've never gone "I'm gonna make a techno track in 7/4" or anything like that.

I have two tracks that I still really love, even after 3 years. I think Iove them because I wrote lyrics to them and the subjects are dear to me.

 

But usually I get super pumped about a track while I'm making it, like I can't imagine someone not liking it. Then I get sick of it and it sounds insipid/stupid. Then I put it down. Then I come back and think it's actually ok and finish it. Then I love it again! Then I listen to it a million times and think it's lame. Then I forget about it. Then it comes in my shuffle like a year later and I'm think "hey, it's not actually that bad."

coolandfrank: that's pretty much my experience. Although i've made music for 15 years now, i became very disillusioned by my older tracks. i made them because i loved them at the time but they were naive and not very good, with problems like repetition, bad mixing, what have you. but it also ties in with what Antape said earlier - i became disillusioned with a LOT of my melodic ideas too. they had like an intense drive, but they become super boring really fast and the notes can themselves seem naive and i was totally oblivious to that back when i made them. when i realized this it was a really bizarre but eye opening experience about my own experience and how subjective it is.

 

i'd like to think that over time and with experience i get a better sense of these things but even now, maybe in 10 years i will be disillusioned by what i made in the past 5 years. ive started to take on a more 'use it or lose it' principle from neuroscience, that the brain adjusts to what we expose it to and gradually decay the old mindset, which makes me wonder how the brain sources emotions and how they are made.

 

but in any case to also answer the ops question some more, i can be amazed by some things, but they are very rare. maybe like 10% of my tracks stand the test of time. There is a subset of that where i feel the arrangement, melody and mixing is all finished, and those are great.

For me it does.I'm a bit self obsessed when it comes to music simply because i make the exact music i want to hear.I would say 90% of the music i listen to is my own music.

 

When i listen to my own stuff it makes me remember the state of like possession i was in when i was making.For me making music is almost a mystical thing.Its like getting possessed by some strange power that whisper you sounds in your head.Sometimes it think to myself:How the hell i made that?Where does it come from?

 

Music in my opinion is one of the most mysterious thing in life.You know?Why this melody affect me?Why this is good?Where does it came from?

There is a logical,intellectual element of mastery in music that is undeniable,but this cerebral knowledge is basically only a key that open the mysterious door of inspiration.The most amazing thing about creating music for me is when you basically dont even think about it and it just flow through you.Its a very special feeling.

I always think I have that feeling when I know I have something good and then I listen to it later and see tons of obvious bad choices.