The rise of the 'Alt-Right' culture - thoughts?

eugene · November 10, 2015

On 11/10/2015 at 8:28 PM, caze said:

On 11/10/2015 at 7:56 PM, eugene said:
it doesn't have to be that research. literally any case of identical twins developing different personalities, self perceptions, educations or whatever, will show the merit of such explanation, which of course isn't uncommon at all.

you can't complain about one piece of research not controlling for all available factors, and hand wave it away with some anecdote when it's not convenient. and as to whether identical twins can develop different personalities, this is a straw man, I don't think you really have a good handle on what behavioural geneticists are proposing at all.

the only thing i need to show is some sort of reasonable doubt about the findings of twin/adoption studies, which i did.

the more you post the more obvious it becomes that you have really deep misconception about how scientific research works and troubles with even basic logical reasoning. the fact that identical twins develop different personalities (meaning all of their variance in personality is a result of the effect of the environment) is enough to claim that it's possible that in the case of adoption studies it is also the environmental factors that are solely responsible for the effect and not genetic ones. or to put it more clearly - that similarity in biological parents and siblings IQ is the result of similarity in physical appearance which can affect the life course of the biological child in a similar way with how it affected parents'. and this is just one possible explanation, and probably not the strongest one (though most interesting imo).

there's also research that shows that parents will attach much more strongly to biological children than to adopted ones, which will also result in more similarity between biological sibling compared to adopted ones. this is also traditionally ignored in adoption despite the claims that the environment is controlled.