elseq 1-5

i listen to most of my music via earphones while commuting to / from work.

 

for what it's worth, i found the soundspace of elseq to be far too brutal to listen to thru earphones.

 

it's something about either the mixing / mastering, or more likely, the software they are using to generate these tracks. you can tell their current setup was originally designed for live performance, because it has that real dry / up front / in your face sound ( like all of the AE_LIVE soundboards they released ) which is ideal in a live venue.

 

luckily, i found an iOS music player that has a crossfeed function: Neutron (also available for Android). i turn the crossfeed on when listening to elseq & it really helped smooth out some of that brittle, ultra high frequency sound.

 

i like this abstract stuff they are doing lately but i am REALLY burned out on the AE_LIVE / elseq sound at this point. i would love to see AE get back to using hardware along with their crazy sequencing /event generating setup because i think it could majorly benefit from a richer soundscape (see the Oversteps tour recordings as an example).

 

people who listen thru speakers might disagree, but try listening to this stuff thru headphones & earphones. i've found it really fatiguing in a way that most other music is not, and i've never been one to be bothered by prolonged headphone listening (in fact, i much prefer it to listening thru speakers).

 

I find it rather pleasant in my AIAIAI headphones, but really, everything sounds pleasant through them, even my shitty music.

Lately there wasn't any piece that I enjoyed fully (by that I mean a full album or such). elseq 1-5 changed that.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Consul

The only problem I have with elseq on headphones is sometimes too aggressive mids and highs and too wide stereo image for headphones for rhythmical elements which is quite distracting. Other than that I got used to it and it's cool but I prefer muddiness and more narrow image of Exai and Draft.

Does anyone else think that 7th slip sounds like how it feels to become aware of one's own breathing while on acid?

I like to pretend it's their remix of this:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErnMC7xokQ8

  On 7/29/2016 at 8:16 AM, digit said:

i listen to most of my music via earphones while commuting to / from work.

 

for what it's worth, i found the soundspace of elseq to be far too brutal to listen to thru earphones.

 

it's something about either the mixing / mastering, or more likely, the software they are using to generate these tracks. you can tell their current setup was originally designed for live performance, because it has that real dry / up front / in your face sound ( like all of the AE_LIVE soundboards they released ) which is ideal in a live venue.

 

luckily, i found an iOS music player that has a crossfeed function: Neutron (also available for Android). i turn the crossfeed on when listening to elseq & it really helped smooth out some of that brittle, ultra high frequency sound.

 

i like this abstract stuff they are doing lately but i am REALLY burned out on the AE_LIVE / elseq sound at this point. i would love to see AE get back to using hardware along with their crazy sequencing /event generating setup because i think it could majorly benefit from a richer soundscape (see the Oversteps tour recordings as an example).

 

people who listen thru speakers might disagree, but try listening to this stuff thru headphones & earphones. i've found it really fatiguing in a way that most other music is not, and i've never been one to be bothered by prolonged headphone listening (in fact, i much prefer it to listening thru speakers).

 

Myself and a few others definitely noticed the same and have similar issues with enjoyment because of how contained/restrained the soundscape is on this release. This was discussed towards the beginning of this thread. My only solution is to basically replicate the live situation...as in blast the tracks, loud, through my studio monitors or my in my car. The volume starts to open up the listening experience partly for elseq, but works much better for AE_LIVE sets, unsurprisingly. As far as anyone knows, elseq was not mastered, and I personally think this hurt the experience partly. Many others have no issues with the sound of the release, but you're surely not the only one thinking the way you stated. Edited July 29, 2016 by auxien

As AE clearly stated in their AAA, they don't let mastering engineers change their sound a lot (apart from some bass roll-offs). I doubt that mastering of elseq would create a big difference. This is how they wanted the record to sound.

Edited July 29, 2016 by WNS000

 

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 4:01 PM, auxien said:

. As far as anyone knows, elseq was not mastered

  On 7/29/2016 at 5:54 PM, auxien said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 4:01 PM, auxien said:

. As far as anyone knows, elseq was not mastered

 

 

Read my post again, I don't disagree with that particular point.

 

I was reacting to your "and I personally think this hurt the experience partly".

Edited July 29, 2016 by WNS000

^point taken, though I'd disagree. I think mastering could've corrected some of the things that negatively affect its sound, imo: openness, punch, and level issues.

I don't think so, mate. Mastering cannot revert most of mixing decisions. The compression and limiting are obviously deliberate decisions by AE. You would have to remix the tracks in order to fix what you are talking about.

 

Also, what level issues?

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Imo elseq is perfect

  On 7/29/2016 at 8:21 PM, WNS000 said:

I don't think so, mate. Mastering cannot revert most of mixing decisions. The compression and limiting are obviously deliberate decisions by AE. You would have to remix the tracks in order to fix what you are talking about.

 

Also, what level issues?

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Yeah, they chose to release it as is, and undoubtedly made the deliberate decision to either 'master' it themselves or just not worry about it at all, but I simply think someone else mastering the release could've pointed out what, to my ears, sounds like flaws. If they're not flaws to AE then all's well, I just don't like some aspects of elseq. Nbd.

 

But mastering can affect the things I mentioned, at least in some cases, at least partly.

 

The level issue specifically: elseq usually sounds weak and lacking at lower (re: not loud) volumes. Dynamics (not entirely a level issue) are weak compared to nearly everything else they've released, imo. And then, there's the clipping...

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:14 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:05 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:43 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/28/2016 at 1:57 PM, phling said:

Mexican Sequencers

lol

 

juan & roberto

 

autechero

 

el seq, mi madre!

 

lol forgot about that

 

 

 

​Understood, mate. Dynamics are certainly more compressed than usual for AE.

  On 7/29/2016 at 10:04 PM, WNS000 said:

​Understood, mate. Dynamics are certainly more compressed than usual for AE.

Agreed sir.

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 9:43 PM, phling said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:14 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:05 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:43 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/28/2016 at 1:57 PM, phling said:

Mexican Sequencers

lol

 

juan & roberto

 

autechero

el seq, mi madre!

lol forgot about that

  Reveal hidden contents

 

FLOL best cover, can tDR print that shit up with the words embossed? Would pay $80.

O TE QUE RO

O TE QUIERO

 

¡BABOSO MUGROSO!

  On 7/29/2016 at 11:34 PM, QBLA said:

O TE QUE RO

O TE QUIERO

 

¡BABOSO MUGROSO!

 

un otequero, por favor... rapido!

 

si senor!

c7b2... FUCK!

 

I'm late to the party... I just got it today.

  On 7/29/2016 at 3:00 PM, Rotwang said:

Does anyone else think that 7th slip sounds like how it feels to become aware of one's own breathing while on acid?

Idk what you're talking about with the breathing, but now that I listen to 7th slip looking for acid-like qualities it sure reminds me of what it's like when your thoughts literally echo through your head on acid along with that weird timestretch feeling where you hear a low hum as a response to stuff. idk how to explain

  On 7/29/2016 at 11:15 PM, auxien said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 10:04 PM, WNS000 said:

​Understood, mate. Dynamics are certainly more compressed than usual for AE.

Agreed sir.

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 9:43 PM, phling said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:14 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:05 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:43 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/28/2016 at 1:57 PM, phling said:

Mexican Sequencers

lol

 

juan & roberto

 

autechero

el seq, mi madre!

lol forgot about that

  Reveal hidden contents

 

FLOL best cover, can tDR print that shit up with the words embossed? Would pay $80.

 

 

i cant breathe

Edited July 30, 2016 by Zeffolia

  On 7/29/2016 at 9:43 PM, phling said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:14 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:05 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:43 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/28/2016 at 1:57 PM, phling said:

Mexican Sequencers

lol

 

juan & roberto

 

autechero

 

el seq, mi madre!

 

lol forgot about that

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

*imagines intense accordion arpeggiation Autechero stayle*

  On 7/29/2016 at 9:43 PM, phling said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:14 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 2:05 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 7/29/2016 at 1:43 AM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 7/28/2016 at 1:57 PM, phling said:

Mexican Sequencers

lol

 

juan & roberto

 

autechero

el seq, mi madre!

lol forgot about that

  Reveal hidden contents

 

FLOL

lmao. that's intense.

XD well done, the facial expressions are spot on!