Bad advice you've been given or does not make sense

yesterday i was told to take crystal meth rather than heroin. Not that i do any of them yet.

I ate Flintstones vitamins when I was younger and now I shit diamonds

  On 8/30/2016 at 4:12 PM, Alcofribas said:

as a young person growing up in the 90s Western Medical Practitioners instructed me to only consume cereal, milk & oj. i did as i was told. and now i'm a fucking palestinian.

Pretty close if you remember the food pyramid taught in health class and all that. I know you're mocking me but this was the prevailing wisdom.

But Alco, I'm sure you have a direct line to the truth so of course you knew better back then.

  On 8/30/2016 at 5:25 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 8/30/2016 at 4:12 PM, Alcofribas said:

as a young person growing up in the 90s Western Medical Practitioners instructed me to only consume cereal, milk & oj. i did as i was told. and now i'm a fucking palestinian.

Pretty close if you remember the food pyramid taught in health class and all that. I know you're mocking me but this was the prevailing wisdom.

 

But Alco, I'm sure you have a direct line to the truth so of course you knew better back then.

chill out mang, just goofing around on watmmdotbiz

I did not eat cereal, milk or OJ growing up and I have scurvy, genital warts and chronic anal prolapse, along with being a member of Hamas.

  On 8/30/2016 at 6:13 PM, Alcofribas said:

 

  On 8/30/2016 at 5:25 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 8/30/2016 at 4:12 PM, Alcofribas said:

as a young person growing up in the 90s Western Medical Practitioners instructed me to only consume cereal, milk & oj. i did as i was told. and now i'm a fucking palestinian.

Pretty close if you remember the food pyramid taught in health class and all that. I know you're mocking me but this was the prevailing wisdom.

 

But Alco, I'm sure you have a direct line to the truth so of course you knew better back then.

chill out mang, just goofing around on watmmdotbiz

It's all good mang

*eats low-fat cookie and immediately dies of diabetes*

  On 8/30/2016 at 7:34 PM, LimpyLoo said:

*eats low-fat cookie and immediately dies of diabetes*

Thanks, mang, but if you want me to watch it you gotta give me the URL cuz tapatalk doesn't play sound for some reason or other

my brain once told me to create a watmm account.

nice postAAAhng

  On 8/30/2016 at 9:14 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Thanks, mang, but if you want me to watch it you gotta give me the URL cuz tapatalk doesn't play sound for some reason or other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLqINF26LSA

Find what your niche is, that leads to riches.

  On 8/28/2016 at 11:27 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Well, certainly it is merely one data point. But like I said, my "Western disillusionment" is founded on many such data points.

 

I was raised on 60's self-help books and eastern religious texts and some of the sillier New Age stuff...and then I sorta drifted in the opposite, more "Western" direction...and now I've come back around to thinking that beyond science and technology, the sorts of experiences and worldviews typically on offer in the West are as backwards as a human being can get.

Lumpy stop generalizing

This viewpoint your psychiatrist espoused is not even remotely "Western", they're just dumb

When I was in high school the vice principal snuck out for a cigarette at the same time I did, turns out we had the same secret spot. Instead of nutting me we had a conversation about cigarettes over cigarettes and talked about how it kills some people and some people smoke their whole lives without every having a serious health issue. He told me that he "could tell" I was part of the latter group and I shouldn't worry about it. Him saying that to this day boggles my mind as he was never sarcastic and it seemed totally genuine. 

  On 8/31/2016 at 5:09 PM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 8/28/2016 at 11:27 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Well, certainly it is merely one data point. But like I said, my "Western disillusionment" is founded on many such data points.

 

I was raised on 60's self-help books and eastern religious texts and some of the sillier New Age stuff...and then I sorta drifted in the opposite, more "Western" direction...and now I've come back around to thinking that beyond science and technology, the sorts of experiences and worldviews typically on offer in the West are as backwards as a human being can get.

Lumpy stop generalizing

 

This viewpoint your psychiatrist espoused is not even remotely "Western", they're just dumb

The idea that your body is merely a vehicle for your mind is very Western...and it is an intuitive notion that I think many people naturally have...you gotta remember that you have figures like William James whose ideas are first (provisionally) accepted, then "overturned" by the scientific ideas of following generations, then found to be true by yet later generations...

This same thing happened with Freud., in fact...

I mean, remember that Western science only came around on (e.g.) meditation in the last 10 years or so...the same goes for many such examples of 'folk science"

In fact, this very naive intuition (body is mere vehicle for mind) was the biggest hang-up in robotics progress for quite awhile...we had presumptions about mind and body that were simply false...and if you look around you will see these intuitions at play in nearly everyone

  On 8/31/2016 at 5:09 PM, Zeffolia said:

Lumpy stop generalizing

 

 

Excuse me, this thread is for bad advice, not good

I'm generalizing, but I'm not over-generalizing

For example, up until 40-ish years ago with Behavioural Economics, economic theories (as with most human-related systems) were based on the faulty presumptions that a) humans perceived the world perfectly accurately, b) acted rationally thereupon, c) and that only material wealth figured into their cognitive calculations.

Western scientific thought is only very recently getting its act together. Conversationally, people still talk about economics that way. And really the same holds true for notions of mental health.

In the past few months, there were a couple studies showing that a) eating fruit everyday raises your 'happiness' the same amount as an unemployed person finding work, and b) that spending time in nature is a crucial de-stressor.

Anyway, my point is that the world is a minefield of hidden presumptions and intuitions, and newfound wisdoms aren't (necessarily) immediately infused into educational systems, so often you'll find outmoded ideas still in practice.

I'm learning to drive and am getting a lot of contradicting advice from different parties

That's Lloyd. If your with me everything's cool. He's far higher up the food chain than the others, the biggest fish of our realm.

  On 8/31/2016 at 9:06 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

I'm learning to drive and am getting a lot of contradicting advice from different parties

only advice you need:

  On 8/31/2016 at 6:58 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 8/31/2016 at 5:09 PM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 8/28/2016 at 11:27 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Well, certainly it is merely one data point. But like I said, my "Western disillusionment" is founded on many such data points.

 

I was raised on 60's self-help books and eastern religious texts and some of the sillier New Age stuff...and then I sorta drifted in the opposite, more "Western" direction...and now I've come back around to thinking that beyond science and technology, the sorts of experiences and worldviews typically on offer in the West are as backwards as a human being can get.

Lumpy stop generalizing

 

This viewpoint your psychiatrist espoused is not even remotely "Western", they're just dumb

 

It is Western, though...very Western

 

The idea that your body is merely a vehicle for your mind is very Western...and it is an intuitive notion that I think many people naturally have...you gotta remember that you have figures like William James whose ideas are first (provisionally) accepted, then "overturned" by the scientific ideas of following generations, then found to be true by yet later generations...

 

This same thing happened with Freud., in fact...

 

I mean, remember that Western science only came around on (e.g.) meditation in the last 10 years or so...the same goes for many such examples of 'folk science"

 

In fact, this very naive intuition (body is mere vehicle for mind) was the biggest hang-up in robotics progress for quite awhile...we had presumptions about mind and body that were simply false...and if you look around you will see these intuitions at play in nearly everyone

 

Yeah, I don't have the references at hand now but I think there are actually several recent studies linking dualist beliefs directly to ill health, since people who hold them are more prone to neglect "their bodies" i.e. themselves.

  On 8/31/2016 at 9:06 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

I'm learning to drive and am getting a lot of contradicting advice from different parties

  On 8/31/2016 at 10:43 PM, triachus said:

 

  On 8/31/2016 at 9:06 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

I'm learning to drive and am getting a lot of contradicting advice from different parties

only advice you need:

 

 

It definitely should be easier than it is. The fact that europeans dont really care about automatic transmission makes me worry we'll still be driving stick while the rest of the world naps on their way to work in their Google self-driving cars... sigh

  On 8/31/2016 at 10:53 PM, manmower said:

Yeah, I don't have the references at hand now but I think there are actually several recent studies linking dualist beliefs directly to ill health, since people who hold them are more prone to neglect "their bodies" i.e. themselves.

 

That's interesting.

It's very disorienting to think that such presumptions (e.g. We don't really need contact with nature) underlies most of our architecture and city planning and our personal schedules and our diets and our artificial sleep habits (apparently, humans are at their happiest and most productive when their sleep aligns with the rise/fall of the sun...surprise surprise, innit)

Anyway, I'll stop ranting now

  On 9/1/2016 at 12:04 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

apparently, humans are at their happiest and most productive when their sleep aligns with the rise/fall of the sun...surprise surprise, innit

 

This is wrong in my experience.

Hah, that means I should sleep from 15:30 to 09:45 in December. Sounds great man.