the watmm GAS thread

Micro x is a totally different engine to the microkorg/MS2000.

I had the Radias for a few years. I liked it, used it for a bit and got some nice stuff from it when I dug in, but ended up not being bothered to turn it on as I would get what I wanted quicker from other synths I had. Sounds were kind of cold ish so it was great for odd stuff. I sold it to buy the Analogfour. 

Even though it was knob laden there was still lots of annoying menu diving when you wanted to get crazy so that's why it ended up sitting unused longer than anything else. It WAS good though, just wrong for me at the time.

Second track on my album was all Radias and MD for drums done in a live jam.

i wouldn't rate the ms2000r that highly tbh, i owned one for years and years and made several albums with it's help but it sounds cheap as fuck imo. also the 'sequencer' is barely a sequencer, just a way to create automation. the vocoder is out of control tho. really good.

they are cheap, mind, so what the hell get 2.

  On 9/11/2017 at 9:49 PM, fenton said:

i wouldn't rate the ms2000r that highly tbh, i owned one for years and years and made several albums with it's help but it sounds cheap as fuck imo. also the 'sequencer' is barely a sequencer, just a way to create automation. the vocoder is out of control tho. really good.

 

they are cheap, mind, so what the hell get 2.

I think I have a really low bar when it comes to sound. As long as I can play it expressively with my keyboard and make it sound good, I am already in 7th heaven. And since it has an audio in and vocoder, all bets are already off since I can pipe all my Pure Data shit or AKFW single cycle waveforms through it.

Yeah, I have pretty much decided I'll get it. :)

Berlin show at lovely Funkhaus was an intense meditative experience.

Edit: Sorry thought we talked about the musician GAS / Wolfang Voigt actually.

Some much needed GAS relief - have a Digitakt + 0 Coast on order, splitting with friend so decently afordable

...can't wait

(also having Poly61 repaired and planning to pilege it for Digi samples)

Monologue looks really fun. I think I'll get one before my week off.

  On 9/15/2017 at 12:07 PM, TRiP said:

Some much needed GAS relief - have a Digitakt + 0 Coast on order, splitting with friend so decently afordable

 

...can't wait

 

(also having Poly61 repaired and planning to pilege it for Digi samples)

I sold my Poly61m (first analog synth I owned) in the late 2000s and I still regret it.

Got $80 for it.

Im soon gonna sell my dr.bohm digital drums 10 kgs weight drum machine from '82. for 1 million euros, ok dollars... Anyone interested?

Finally bought the Novation Bass Station II today (along with an additional audio interface for live use). Onto the Digitakt and Polyend.

  On 9/16/2017 at 2:59 AM, Braintree said:

Finally bought the Novation Bass Station II today (along with an additional audio interface for live use). Onto the Digitakt and Polyend.

I know I'm not the only one on here with a JV-1080,so I'm passing on this Gearslutz thread with info about Roland Japan's official statement about aging capacitors on JV-era expansion cards exploding.  Scroll down the thread for extensive photos of a recap job, it's really straightforward, just one LARGE surface mount capacitor per expansion board.  I'll  be doing mine this weekend, with regular through hole caps like the photos in the thread since I have plenty of those on hand.

That thread has a link to another thread with photos of the aftermath of a cap popping on one of these and it's enough to make me take this seriously even though it's probably pretty rare.  Looks like it really went up and they face down toward the main board when they're installed so there's potential for a lot more damage if you're unlucky.

woah. I don't have any expansion cards for my JV1010 at the moment but I was considering tracking down one of the World cards. I'll keep that in mind if I ever get one!

  On 9/15/2017 at 5:32 PM, RSP said:

I sold my Poly61m (first analog synth I owned) in the late 2000s and I still regret it.

 

Got $80 for it.

 

Ouch, i feel your pain...but if it makes you feel any better this is the 2nd time we've had to get our 61 repaired so sinking quite a bit of money into her

can't imagine a time when analog poly synth were going for that cheap, its as mind boggling to think of a future where something like a Yamaha PRS-340 going for €500

  On 9/16/2017 at 3:22 AM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 2:59 AM, Braintree said:

Finally bought the Novation Bass Station II today (along with an additional audio interface for live use). Onto the Digitakt and Polyend.

Hell yeah, I have my eye on that too. Need more monosynths in my life.

 

Eventually, I'll get the Monologue as well. It sounds fantastic for $300. I mostly just want access to those Aphex tunings.

  On 9/16/2017 at 3:55 PM, modey said:

woah. I don't have any expansion cards for my JV1010 at the moment but I was considering tracking down one of the World cards. I'll keep that in mind if I ever get one!

I got a modest, unexpected bit of extra income last month and picked up a few this week.  Got Classical II (the one that came out right after Titanic and is full of Celtic waveforms - I haven't had a chance to sit and program since I got it but the bouzouki waveforms seem really promising and it has a ton of more esoteric string articulations and unusual percussion samples in it), and I have World and Special FX on the way.

Special FX is the one I'm really excited about.  The only others taht really have my eye are Asia an maybe Vocal Cllection.  I'm getting these entirely for the raw waveforms, but the presets are pretty fun to just mess around with, too, and the waveforms themselves are noticeably nicer than the onboard stuff.  I'd say the overhyped ones are maybe not worth the price unless you need a lot of bread and butter keyboard sounds and analog synth waveforms, but the second tier stuff that's not quite as popular but isn't garbage like the "experience" demo cards that only have a handful of waveforms, or the Hip Hop card that is supposedly just as bad as every other hip hop expansion of that era, are he exciting ones to me. 

Special FX, from the demos I've heard, is pure mid 90s direct to video horror/sci-fi soundtrack stuff, and the waveform list looks great, tons of natural noise samples, natural ambiances, scraping metal, industrial sounds, hums, that kind of thing.  There's a sample of seltzer water fizzing on it.  The kind of stuff that's great for mangling into weird, synthetic soundscapes and pads.  Obviously you could get a pretty good sampler for the price of a couple cards and do a lot more but I really like the sound and workflow of this thing and sometimes it's nice to be constrained by NOT being able to sample.

Anyhow when I get them, recap them and spend some time with them I'll report back.

EDIT: they've even got a field recording of a deli slicer on there.

  On 9/16/2017 at 4:23 PM, TRiP said:

 

  On 9/15/2017 at 5:32 PM, RSP said:

I sold my Poly61m (first analog synth I owned) in the late 2000s and I still regret it.

 

Got $80 for it.

 

 

Ouch, i feel your pain...but if it makes you feel any better this is the 2nd time we've had to get our 61 repaired so sinking quite a bit of money into her

 

can't imagine a time when analog poly synth were going for that cheap, its as mind boggling to think of a future where something like a Yamaha PRS-340 going for €500

 

I probably could have gotten more like $150 (I bought it for $200 AT A SHOP) but I was trying to unload it fast because it was starting to take about half a minute between when you turned it on and when the power light actually came on and it started to work, I didn't have the money to have it serviced or the skill to do any work myself, and I'd just learned about the leaky battery problem they're prone to, so I figured the thing was a time bob and whoever I sold it to could use the savings to get it worked on down the line. But yeah, even $200 (which was kind of a rip off at the time, this was maybe 1999 that I got it and around 2006 or 2007 that I sold it) seems like madness now, I saw a 61m on eBay for over $1200 last month (I guess the factory MIDI makes it a lot more valuable even though it's really just a Korg-installed MIDI retrofit in a regular 61, it only sends and recieves notes, and doesn't respond all that well).

  On 9/17/2017 at 1:33 AM, RSP said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 3:55 PM, modey said:

woah. I don't have any expansion cards for my JV1010 at the moment but I was considering tracking down one of the World cards. I'll keep that in mind if I ever get one!

I got a modest, unexpected bit of extra income last month and picked up a few this week. Got Classical II (the one that came out right after Titanic and is full of Celtic waveforms - I haven't had a chance to sit and program since I got it but the bouzouki waveforms seem really promising and it has a ton of more esoteric string articulations and unusual percussion samples in it), and I have World and Special FX on the way.

 

Special FX is the one I'm really excited about. The only others taht really have my eye are Asia an maybe Vocal Cllection. I'm getting these entirely for the raw waveforms, but the presets are pretty fun to just mess around with, too, and the waveforms themselves are noticeably nicer than the onboard stuff. I'd say the overhyped ones are maybe not worth the price unless you need a lot of bread and butter keyboard sounds and analog synth waveforms, but the second tier stuff that's not quite as popular but isn't garbage like the "experience" demo cards that only have a handful of waveforms, or the Hip Hop card that is supposedly just as bad as every other hip hop expansion of that era, are he exciting ones to me.

 

Special FX, from the demos I've heard, is pure mid 90s direct to video horror/sci-fi soundtrack stuff, and the waveform list looks great, tons of natural noise samples, natural ambiances, scraping metal, industrial sounds, hums, that kind of thing. There's a sample of seltzer water fizzing on it. The kind of stuff that's great for mangling into weird, synthetic soundscapes and pads. Obviously you could get a pretty good sampler for the price of a couple cards and do a lot more but I really like the sound and workflow of this thing and sometimes it's nice to be constrained by NOT being able to sample.

 

 

Anyhow when I get them, recap them and spend some time with them I'll report back.

 

EDIT: they've even got a field recording of a deli slicer on there.

  On 9/17/2017 at 1:25 AM, Braintree said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 3:22 AM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 2:59 AM, Braintree said:

Finally bought the Novation Bass Station II today (along with an additional audio interface for live use). Onto the Digitakt and Polyend.

Hell yeah, I have my eye on that too. Need more monosynths in my life.

 

Eventually, I'll get the Monologue as well. It sounds fantastic for $300. I mostly just want access to those Aphex tunings.

Actually this is what sealed the deal for me, slips right into my evil MIDI schemes:

https://youtu.be/REnpJYGbwrY

  On 9/17/2017 at 4:24 AM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 9/17/2017 at 1:25 AM, Braintree said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 3:22 AM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 9/16/2017 at 2:59 AM, Braintree said:

Finally bought the Novation Bass Station II today (along with an additional audio interface for live use). Onto the Digitakt and Polyend.

Hell yeah, I have my eye on that too. Need more monosynths in my life.

 

Eventually, I'll get the Monologue as well. It sounds fantastic for $300. I mostly just want access to those Aphex tunings.

Oh that's a big one for me too but I also like the control surface a lot, plus audio rate LFOs, ring mod, motion sequencing, battery power, etc. Just need to figure out which color I want - thinking silver or Aphex gold, whatever makes those lights pop like a plastic diner cup.

 

Actually this is what sealed the deal for me, slips right into my evil MIDI schemes:

 

Nice! That's one of the reasons why I want the Digitakt. Controlling outboard gear from that little sampler sounds really fun.

  On 9/18/2017 at 12:28 AM, Braintree said:

 

  On 9/17/2017 at 4:24 AM, sweepstakes said:

https://youtu.be/REnpJYGbwrY

Nice! That's one of the reasons why I want the Digitakt. Controlling outboard gear from that little sampler sounds really fun.

 

Oh definitely and I don't have one of those but that program change should work with anything else that can send them too, like the Monomachine or (I think) even an old MPC. I'm totally sold on this thing, I think I'm gonna order the blue this week.

That said, it's probably time for me to let go of some stuff I haven't been using - I'm totally not feeling the Kastle and I haven't used the MPC1000, TX81Z, or Shruthi-1 in months. It's probably time to let my Micro Mod go too although that one's gonna be harder.

So I got that MS2000R and I am loving it. Yesterday I was working on mapping Live's arpeggiator to my frankenpush and it turned into a jam instead. I even haven't got around to really reading through the manual and vocoding and processing everything and anything yet. I only wish it was a little more portable for lugging to practice sessions or whatever else.

sounds great! Reminds me of Cluster / Harmonia

  On 9/18/2017 at 2:36 AM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 9/18/2017 at 12:28 AM, Braintree said:

 

  On 9/17/2017 at 4:24 AM, sweepstakes said:

https://youtu.be/REnpJYGbwrY

Nice! That's one of the reasons why I want the Digitakt. Controlling outboard gear from that little sampler sounds really fun.

 

Oh definitely and I don't have one of those but that program change should work with anything else that can send them too, like the Monomachine or (I think) even an old MPC. I'm totally sold on this thing, I think I'm gonna order the blue this week.

 

That said, it's probably time for me to let go of some stuff I haven't been using - I'm totally not feeling the Kastle and I haven't used the MPC1000, TX81Z, or Shruthi-1 in months. It's probably time to let my Micro Mod go too although that one's gonna be harder.

 

Depending on the price and shipping situation I might actually be in the market for an 81z and a friend of mine has been looking for sampler and I know for a fact that the MPC1000 is what he needs, he's just been hedging toward an SP404 because it's less expensive.  But if you decide to sell the 1000,shoot me a PM and I'll check with him and see if he has the interest and funds.

  On 9/18/2017 at 4:31 AM, thawkins said:

So I got that MS2000R and I am loving it. Yesterday I was working on mapping Live's arpeggiator to my frankenpush and it turned into a jam instead. I even haven't got around to really reading through the manual and vocoding and processing everything and anything yet. I only wish it was a little more portable for lugging to practice sessions or whatever else.

 

This sounds great!

Thanks modey & RSP! I'll check out Cluster and Harmonia; I'm not too familiar with the stuff but it smells stronly of krautrock which is very much my thing. :)

With regard to the SP404 (and samplers in general) I saw a guy play a live set using two SP404s and a Korg MS20 mini which kind of tickled me in a good way because I love people wizard sounds out of minimal gear. I'm pretty sure he used the Korg only as a filter and he had a lot of stuff prepared in the sampler so looking at these things it's always pretty hard to understand where the samples end and the live manipulation begins, especially if you're like me and don't really know how any hardware works. :)