On 4/14/2024 at 3:47 AM, ignatius said:

teslas killing in similar (higher) numbers than the infamous Ford Pinto. Pinto was recalled i think. basically ford cheaped out on putting a part between the bumper and the gas tank so if a Pinto was rear ended it would catch fire/explode. an inexpensive part.. a piece of metal that shielded the gas tank was added after the recall. but ford knew about it for ages and didn't do a recall. but it was a long time ago and i forget about the details. it's probably more complicated than my memory. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-deaths

Fun Fact: Teslas have killed over twice as many people as the exploding Ford Pinto did at a roughly similar level of sales. the Pinto sold ~3 million units & killed at least 27 people. Tesla is now creeping up on 5 million total vehicles & 95 deaths from battery fires or autopilot crashes.

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It's very clear what they're doing.  Musk decreed that LIDAR and other capabilities that literally every other level 3/4 self-driving vehicle uses are stupid and too expensive, so Tesla is relying on cameras only.  To do this and to do it well requires a shit-ton of data (real-world data is best, obv.) so Musk turned his fanbois into beta-testers.  These people are putting their lives (and the lives of others) on the line so that Tesla can save a few $ per unit, not to mention that it's just foolish to continue to attempt to get to level 4 autonomy with cameras alone, especially when such better supplementary technology exists.

Tesla were even so cheap that they only very recently added a camera which monitors the driver's eyes to ensure that they are paying attention to the road while using autonomous systems, something that every other company has done from the beginning (again, risking lives strictly to cut cost and make share price go up / burn the shorts).

  On 4/14/2024 at 12:45 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

Tesla were even so cheap

I can't understand the mentality behind someone just looking at that blocky piece of shit and being like "yep, I want that". let alone whatever issues it might have with exploding or falling apart or whatever.

  On 4/19/2024 at 4:01 AM, usagi said:

I can't understand the mentality behind someone just looking at that blocky piece of shit and being like "yep, I want that". let alone whatever issues it might have with exploding or falling apart or whatever.

it's like people buying those shitty stupid looking Yeezy sneakers because they just came out and dude was first in line so has the rare thing which makes him cool because people are fucking shallow and stupid. 

the video is sped up but.. well.. 

  On 4/19/2024 at 2:30 AM, Nebraska said:

 

 

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These jerk-offs are not a legacy automaker, they are learning to build vehicles on the fly.  They're compromising the safety of every Tesla driver and those around them but hey their market cap sure is impressive so let's keep the train going full speed...

  On 4/19/2024 at 2:30 AM, Nebraska said:

 

 

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Wow

  On 4/19/2024 at 2:30 AM, Nebraska said:

 

 

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Tesla has been ordered to recall nearly 4,000 of its Cybertrucks due to an accelerator pedal that can stick in place when pressed down.

The cause, according to the regulator: soap.

“An unapproved change introduced lubricant (soap) to aid in the component assembly of the pad onto the accelerator pedal. Residual lubricant reduced the retention of the pad to the pedal”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/19/business/tesla-cybertruck-recall/index.html

  On 4/20/2024 at 5:53 AM, ignatius said:

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1.  I don't necessarily buy that.  I don't think he'd care enough about anyone except himself (even his child) to put in as much effort as he did / does with Twitter / X.

2.  If so, what's so wrong with someone holding those beliefs, bruh?

https://jalopnik.com/a-tiktoker-got-trapped-inside-her-115-degree-tesla-mode-1851404777

  On 4/21/2024 at 1:16 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

https://jalopnik.com/a-tiktoker-got-trapped-inside-her-115-degree-tesla-mode-1851404777

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Tesla Model 3 Traps TikToker Inside 115-Degree Car During A Software Update

Tesla warns owners that opening their doors or windows while installing a software update could damage the vehicle, so she stayed put

A TikToker got locked inside of her Tesla Model 3 for 40 minutes in the hot sun while it was installing a software update, and as of this writing her video has over 10.7 million plays after a single day of being online. Before you go jumping to conclusions about her ineptitude, Brianna Janel was actually following the rules laid out by Tesla.

According to the Tesla owner’s manual, “Vehicle functions, including some safety systems and opening or closing the doors or windows, may be limited or disabled when installation is in progress and you could damage the vehicle.” Janel chose to heed Tesla’s warning and did not attempt to open her doors or windows during the installation process for fear of damaging her vehicle, but this seems like a very dangerous oversight on Tesla’s part that she was able to be stuck inside at all.

The door mechanisms on the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are electrically operated, and under normal circumstances are opened from the inside using a simple button to unlatch the door. Should the vehicle have no power, these models do have auxiliary manual cable release levers also found on the door panel, but Tesla warns against using the manual mechanism, citing that it should only be used when the car has no power. Janel said she was aware of this option but didn’t want to risk damaging her car, and she felt confident that she could stick out the heat.

In contrast to Tesla’s potentially dangerous warnings, Lucid Motors requires all occupants to exit the vehicle before the installation process begins, and the Lucid Air owners manual states that owners will not be able to lock or unlock the doors during an update. The Air will start a two-minute countdown when an owner chooses to install an update, giving them enough time to get out prior to the update beginning.

The Tesla owners manual states that the car will not initiate a software update if Keep Climate mode, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode or Camp Mode are engaged, but it fails to require vehicle occupants to exit the vehicle before the debilitating installation process begins. Tesla also recommends owners install software updates as soon as possible, which could cause some owners to feel obligated to initiate an update in a compromised environment.

Janel said her car estimated the install would only take 24 minutes, but it actually took 40 minutes, which was long enough for her car’s interior to reach 115 degrees. In a follow-up video, her caption states that she was afraid to mess up her car by getting out during the installation. She claims to have owned a Tesla for six years, and she said she will continue to own her car for many years, despite this experience.

Tesla needs to either require that all occupants exit the vehicle before beginning a software install, or at least alter its verbiage to prevent incidents like this from occurring, especially as we approach a summer with higher global temperatures than ever before. If someone living in a town like Phoenix, Arizona or Las Vegas, Nevada were to face the same situation, it could pose a more serious health risk. If there are any Tesla owners reading, please make sure you are not parked in direct sunlight when you initiate a software update if you are going to remain in the car.

 

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its like a smartphone update but you are stuck inside while it happens 

  On 4/21/2024 at 1:16 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

https://jalopnik.com/a-tiktoker-got-trapped-inside-her-115-degree-tesla-mode-1851404777

  Reveal hidden contents

Tesla Model 3 Traps TikToker Inside 115-Degree Car During A Software Update

Tesla warns owners that opening their doors or windows while installing a software update could damage the vehicle, so she stayed put

A TikToker got locked inside of her Tesla Model 3 for 40 minutes in the hot sun while it was installing a software update, and as of this writing her video has over 10.7 million plays after a single day of being online. Before you go jumping to conclusions about her ineptitude, Brianna Janel was actually following the rules laid out by Tesla.

According to the Tesla owner’s manual, “Vehicle functions, including some safety systems and opening or closing the doors or windows, may be limited or disabled when installation is in progress and you could damage the vehicle.” Janel chose to heed Tesla’s warning and did not attempt to open her doors or windows during the installation process for fear of damaging her vehicle, but this seems like a very dangerous oversight on Tesla’s part that she was able to be stuck inside at all.

The door mechanisms on the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are electrically operated, and under normal circumstances are opened from the inside using a simple button to unlatch the door. Should the vehicle have no power, these models do have auxiliary manual cable release levers also found on the door panel, but Tesla warns against using the manual mechanism, citing that it should only be used when the car has no power. Janel said she was aware of this option but didn’t want to risk damaging her car, and she felt confident that she could stick out the heat.

In contrast to Tesla’s potentially dangerous warnings, Lucid Motors requires all occupants to exit the vehicle before the installation process begins, and the Lucid Air owners manual states that owners will not be able to lock or unlock the doors during an update. The Air will start a two-minute countdown when an owner chooses to install an update, giving them enough time to get out prior to the update beginning.

The Tesla owners manual states that the car will not initiate a software update if Keep Climate mode, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode or Camp Mode are engaged, but it fails to require vehicle occupants to exit the vehicle before the debilitating installation process begins. Tesla also recommends owners install software updates as soon as possible, which could cause some owners to feel obligated to initiate an update in a compromised environment.

Janel said her car estimated the install would only take 24 minutes, but it actually took 40 minutes, which was long enough for her car’s interior to reach 115 degrees. In a follow-up video, her caption states that she was afraid to mess up her car by getting out during the installation. She claims to have owned a Tesla for six years, and she said she will continue to own her car for many years, despite this experience.

Tesla needs to either require that all occupants exit the vehicle before beginning a software install, or at least alter its verbiage to prevent incidents like this from occurring, especially as we approach a summer with higher global temperatures than ever before. If someone living in a town like Phoenix, Arizona or Las Vegas, Nevada were to face the same situation, it could pose a more serious health risk. If there are any Tesla owners reading, please make sure you are not parked in direct sunlight when you initiate a software update if you are going to remain in the car.

 

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Thank god, it was just a TikToker and not a real human-being.

a good 30 minutes of shitting on musk and tesla

not creepy at all - https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-could-start-selling-optimus-robots-by-end-next-year-musk-says-2024-04-24/

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humanoid robot is still in the lab, but it may be ready to sell as soon as the end of next year, chief executive Elon Musk said on Tuesday.

there's a humanoid must not escape joke floating around here somewhere...

It's over for him when he releases the robots but you still can't fuck them. People could tolerate failinh to deliver the self driving car stuff, but his fans are not going to accept unfuckable robots.

  On 5/6/2024 at 8:57 PM, taphead said:

It's over for him when he releases the robots but you still can't fuck them. People could tolerate failinh to deliver the self driving car stuff, but his fans are not going to accept unfuckable robots.

there might be enough incels in america to buy unfuckable robots that the company will survive. of course, it depends on how much they cost and if their moms will let them have one in the basement. 

  On 4/21/2024 at 1:16 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

https://jalopnik.com/a-tiktoker-got-trapped-inside-her-115-degree-tesla-mode-1851404777

  Reveal hidden contents

Tesla Model 3 Traps TikToker Inside 115-Degree Car During A Software Update

Tesla warns owners that opening their doors or windows while installing a software update could damage the vehicle, so she stayed put

A TikToker got locked inside of her Tesla Model 3 for 40 minutes in the hot sun while it was installing a software update, and as of this writing her video has over 10.7 million plays after a single day of being online. Before you go jumping to conclusions about her ineptitude, Brianna Janel was actually following the rules laid out by Tesla.

According to the Tesla owner’s manual, “Vehicle functions, including some safety systems and opening or closing the doors or windows, may be limited or disabled when installation is in progress and you could damage the vehicle.” Janel chose to heed Tesla’s warning and did not attempt to open her doors or windows during the installation process for fear of damaging her vehicle, but this seems like a very dangerous oversight on Tesla’s part that she was able to be stuck inside at all.

The door mechanisms on the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are electrically operated, and under normal circumstances are opened from the inside using a simple button to unlatch the door. Should the vehicle have no power, these models do have auxiliary manual cable release levers also found on the door panel, but Tesla warns against using the manual mechanism, citing that it should only be used when the car has no power. Janel said she was aware of this option but didn’t want to risk damaging her car, and she felt confident that she could stick out the heat.

In contrast to Tesla’s potentially dangerous warnings, Lucid Motors requires all occupants to exit the vehicle before the installation process begins, and the Lucid Air owners manual states that owners will not be able to lock or unlock the doors during an update. The Air will start a two-minute countdown when an owner chooses to install an update, giving them enough time to get out prior to the update beginning.

The Tesla owners manual states that the car will not initiate a software update if Keep Climate mode, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode or Camp Mode are engaged, but it fails to require vehicle occupants to exit the vehicle before the debilitating installation process begins. Tesla also recommends owners install software updates as soon as possible, which could cause some owners to feel obligated to initiate an update in a compromised environment.

Janel said her car estimated the install would only take 24 minutes, but it actually took 40 minutes, which was long enough for her car’s interior to reach 115 degrees. In a follow-up video, her caption states that she was afraid to mess up her car by getting out during the installation. She claims to have owned a Tesla for six years, and she said she will continue to own her car for many years, despite this experience.

Tesla needs to either require that all occupants exit the vehicle before beginning a software install, or at least alter its verbiage to prevent incidents like this from occurring, especially as we approach a summer with higher global temperatures than ever before. If someone living in a town like Phoenix, Arizona or Las Vegas, Nevada were to face the same situation, it could pose a more serious health risk. If there are any Tesla owners reading, please make sure you are not parked in direct sunlight when you initiate a software update if you are going to remain in the car.

 

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So like what the fuck happens if your network hangs in the middle of an update?

  On 5/7/2024 at 4:39 AM, chenGOD said:

So like what the fuck happens if your network hangs in the middle of an update?

Kiss your ass goodbye.

Seriously though, I'm guessing it downloads the update first and then installs it to prevent that, but there are other ways it could hang.  I've read that other cars (i.e., not Tesla) make you get out of the car before it performs an update, for obvious reasons.

  On 5/8/2024 at 12:58 AM, EdamAnchorman said:

Kiss your ass goodbye.

Seriously though, I'm guessing it downloads the update first and then installs it to prevent that, but there are other ways it could hang.  I've read that other cars (i.e., not Tesla) make you get out of the car before it performs an update, for obvious reasons.

Yeah that's probably right, but still - what happens if your download corrupts, or the install glitches, or it contains malware. Fuck these OTA software upgrades.

I recently downloaded an update for my washing machine... . ...  . . .... . . . . ..... . . . ... . . . ..... . . .. ... ..

  On 5/8/2024 at 5:30 AM, chenGOD said:

Yeah that's probably right, but still - what happens if your download corrupts, or the install glitches, or it contains malware. Fuck these OTA software upgrades.

I'll join you on your lawn and yell at the youngsters to get off, but either get used to the vehicle / software update crap or buy a crappy Chevy now and prepare to ride it until you die.  What Tesla is doing now is pushing every automaker to basically make their vehicles smartphones on wheels.

Chevy recently announced that they'll have their own Google-developed native OS on the car, and you'll need to pay a monthly subscription / data fee to access maps, nav, apps, etc.  No more tethering your phone and using Android Auto.

  On 5/8/2024 at 1:00 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

Chevy recently announced that they'll have their own Google-developed native OS on the car, and you'll need to pay a monthly subscription / data fee to access maps, nav, apps, etc.  No more tethering your phone and using Android Auto.

Hahahahaha!

What?

  On 5/8/2024 at 1:14 PM, Squee said:

Hahahahaha!

What?

https://source.android.com/docs/automotive/start/what_automotive

https://www.snappautomotive.io/blog/the-state-of-android-automotive-in-2024

Most automakers have announced that they'll give you X number of years free connectivity in Android Automotive, after which you'll need to pay monthly or yearly if you want your vehicle's infotainment system to have any kind of useful functionality.  Yay, capitalism!