2020 US Election

  On 10/23/2020 at 9:20 AM, Brisbot said:

Biden did very well in this debate. I think it's crazy how he isn't as gaff prone now compared to the democratic primaries. That was my number one worry during the main election, and he hasn't said anything super gaff-y, that Trump supporters are looking for the most mild gaff in order to use it against him, and it is falling flat. 

agreed. I kept waiting for him to go down some super cringey rabbit hole, but he seemingly avoided doing so last night. I thought he responded well to most things el trumpo was throwing at him, and he seemed able to stop talking right after making his point. his response to the final question about addressing American's who didn't vote for him was on point, unlike the clown's, who re-used the hell scape imagery depiction similar to the one he babbled out during his 2016 inaugural address.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/early-vote-texas-florida-already-153656959.html

Can you imagine being a person with a functioning brain and voting for trump? LMAO

  On 10/24/2020 at 8:06 PM, Amen Warrior said:

Can you imagine being a person with a functioning brain and voting for trump? LMAO

It’s like being 40 and believing in the Easter bunny, but dumber, somehow. 

  On 10/24/2020 at 8:09 PM, Candiru said:

It’s like being 40 and believing in the Easter bunny, but dumber, somehow. 

sort of.. but it's more like you believe in and hate the easter bunny and trump believes in and hates the easter bunny too so you vote for him because he'll kill the easter bunny... a thing that doesn't exist.. and you'll feel better. 

  On 10/24/2020 at 8:17 PM, ignatius said:

sort of.. but it's more like you believe in and hate the easter bunny and trump believes in and hates the easter bunny too so you vote for him because he'll kill the easter bunny... a thing that doesn't exist.. and you'll feel better. 

Actually yes. They hate a version of America they’ve only been lied to about.

anyone else not voting?

  On 10/24/2020 at 8:24 PM, sheatheman said:

anyone else not voting?

what state are you in?

  On 10/24/2020 at 8:47 PM, caze said:

what state are you in?

the state of denial? 

Aim For A New Tomorrow!!!

Not voting is a vote for trump innit

Voting is like brushing teeth. If you don't do it, it gets brown.

  On 10/24/2020 at 9:42 PM, dingformung said:

Voting is like brushing teeth. If you don't do it, it gets brown.

quite the contrast, voting is like brushing your teeth except instead of toothpaste you can choose between shit, vomit or cum, i'd rather not.

I'd choose cum

  On 10/24/2020 at 10:09 PM, milkface said:

quite the contrast, voting is like brushing your teeth except instead of toothpaste you can choose between shit, vomit or cum, i'd rather not.

Very clever! So to extend this analogy a bit, when everyone else brushed for you, it turned out they spat out your least favorite of the three, all over not only the sink but the floor, the walls, and the hallway. Somehow it even wound up in other houses and neighborhoods!

Just to avoid any confusion, I referred to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour#Brown

Vote cum, no shit or piss

VOTE TRCUMP!!!

I guess that would make for a good poster ...

  On 10/24/2020 at 8:24 PM, sheatheman said:

anyone else not voting?

at least vote for la riva

https://www.lariva2020.org/program

The PSL’s 2020 Ten Point

Socialist Campaign Program

★ 1 |  Make the essentials of life into constitutional rights

The U.S. has more than enough so that all the essentials of life — food, housing, water, education, health care and a job or basic income can be guaranteed rights — rather than distributed only for profit. Create a completely free and public healthcare system. Make education free—cancel all student debt. Fully fund rebuilding of the infrastructure in transport, water and utility systems. Stop all foreclosures and evictions. End all discrimination based on ability/disability.

★ 2 |  For the Earth to live, capitalism must be replaced by a socialist system

Global warming, pollution, acidified and depleted oceans, fracking, critical drought, plastics choking the seas, nuclear weapons and waste — it is clear that capitalism and production for profit are destroying the planet and threatening all life. The crisis is already here, with the most vulnerable and oppressed areas of the U.S. and Global South bearing the brunt. Using truly sustainable energy and seizing the oil and coal companies to stop fossil fuel pollution, are urgent steps needed to reverse climate change. Ultimately, only the socialist reorganization of society can assure the future of the people and the planet.

★ 3 |  End racism, police brutality and mass incarceration-Pay reparations to the African American community

Mass incarceration and racist policing are symptomatic of the 400 years of brutal repression meted out to African-descended peoples in the U.S. and the genocide committed against the Native nations. Reparations must be paid to the African American and Native communities! More than 2.2 million people are behind bars in the largest prison complex in the world. End mass incarceration of oppressed and all working class people. Fully prosecute all acts of police brutality and violence. Free Leonard Peltier, Mumia Abu-Jamal and all political prisoners!

★ 4 |  Full rights for all immigrants

Abolish all anti-immigrant laws. Stop the raids and deportations and demonization of immigrants. Shut down ICE and the concentration camps and reunite families. The government’s war on immigrants must end. The border wall must be dismantled. Amnesty and citizenship for those without documents. Full rights for all!

★ 5 |  Shut down all U.S. military bases around the world—bring all the troops, planes & ships home 

U.S. foreign policy uses the pretext of national security to enforce the imperialist interests of the biggest banks and corporations. That is what is behind the endless wars and occupations. Use the $1 trillion military budget instead to provide for people’s needs here and worldwide. Abolish nuclear weapons. Stop U.S. aid to Israel. Self-determination for the Palestinian people, including the right of return. End the U.S. blockade of Cuba and sanctions against Venezuela, Iran and all countries. Independence for Puerto Rico and cancel its debt!

★ 6 |  Honor Native treaties. Free Leonard Peltier now

Both major parties have continued to allow the destruction of Native lands by mining and corporate agricultural interests in blatant disregard of indigenous sovereign rights. 33% of Native children live in poverty and many of America's poorest counties are reservations. The crisis of missing and murdered Indigenous women and the over-incarceration of Native peoples shows the bankruptcy of capitalism from its earliest inception in the Americas until today.

★ 7 |  Full equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer people

Fight back against anti-LGBTQ discrimination and violence. Defend marriage equality. Full equality in all matters governed by civil law, including employment, housing, healthcare and education. No to “religious exemption” laws that allow discrimination against LGBTQ people!

★ 8 |  Equality for women and free, safe, legal abortion on demand

Stop the attack on women’s reproductive rights and defend Roe v. Wade. Women must have the fundamental right to choose & control their own bodies. Women still earn 22 percent less than men, and the gap is even more severe for Black and Latina women. Close the wage gap and end the gender division of labor.

★ 9 |  Defend and expand our unions

Support the right of all workers to have a union. Fight back against the attacks on collective bargaining. Require employers to recognize card check union votes. Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act. Focusing on low-wage worker organizing, rebuild a fighting labor movement.

★ 10 |  Takeover the stolen wealth of the giant banks and corporations – Jail Wall St. criminals

The vast wealth of the giant banks and corporations is created by workers labor and the exploitation of the world’s diminishing natural resources. The billionaires looted and destroyed the economy. It is time to seize their assets and use those resources in the interests of the vast majority. Power must be taken out of the hands of the super rich, and Wall Street criminals must be jailed.

I’m just sick of all the “I WILL DRIVE YOU TO VOTE” nonsense.

i would love to take someone up on that offer and then tell them I’m voting trump once we are half way there.

Most people don’t want your enthusiastic participation in the election. They want your vote for their side.

just sad how many people are in a bubble where all their friends, family, acceptable acquaintances vote for one side, and anyone else is subhuman.

Guess what? I work on Biden houses and trump houses, and they both offer me water.

“Nooooooo, you can’t vote for la riva, I know it sounds good but you have to make your vote count!”

”haha wasted vote go brrrrr”

  On 10/24/2020 at 11:55 PM, sheatheman said:

I’m just sick of all the “I WILL DRIVE YOU TO VOTE” nonsense.

i would love to take someone up on that offer and then tell them I’m voting trump once we are half way there.

Most people don’t want your enthusiastic participation in the election. They want your vote for their side.

just sad how many people are in a bubble where all their friends, family, acceptable acquaintances vote for one side, and anyone else is subhuman.

Guess what? I work on Biden houses and trump houses, and they both offer me water.

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lol.  all the more reason you should vote for SOMEONE.  there's more than just biden/trump on the ballot in every state. being sick of the messaging doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile to vote. it's tiresome.. i get it.. i'm sick of the ads and the rhetoric and all that shit.. but if i don't vote and choose someone to take things into the future then it makes suffering through all the bullshit extra meaningless. 

you're buying into the division pushed on you so maybe just ignore it and make up your mind w/o spite etc.  or stay on your high horse and take your ball and go home and complain some more. 

Yeah, if I was driving someone to vote and they said they were going to vote for Trump, I’d roll out the driver’s seat before sending it off a cliff and tell the police the passenger was a carjacker who said they had a gun. 

what we really need is to dismantle capitalism, but red and blue are both totally hooked on it.

i would have voted Yang or Sanders.

Fighting capitalism is fine, but please start with fighting the fascist racist trying to destroy democracy, diplomacy and just straight up human decency.

  On 10/24/2020 at 11:55 PM, sheatheman said:

I’m just sick of all the “I WILL DRIVE YOU TO VOTE” nonsense.

i would love to take someone up on that offer and then tell them I’m voting trump once we are half way there.

Most people don’t want your enthusiastic participation in the election. They want your vote for their side.

just sad how many people are in a bubble where all their friends, family, acceptable acquaintances vote for one side, and anyone else is subhuman.

Guess what? I work on Biden houses and trump houses, and they both offer me water.

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I did exactly that once in college, was pretty much indifferent but let my ostensibly humanist flatmate, who had been going on for weeks about how important it is to vote, drive me to my hometown and then voted for this tiny satirical party that had no chance of winning whatsoever, partly because I liked them and partly just to stick it to him. He was incredulous when I told him that I had basically wasted my vote, and I felt very cool and punk-rocky, but later on I was kind of sorry, and I think I have voted ever since then. Fucker got me after all.

I agree with the "subhuman" aspect, FWIW; it's quite unsettling to see people wish other people a horrible death, call them pieces of shit and use the worst kind of dehumanizing language just because they're convinced to be standing on the right side. This is true for either side of the political spectrum.