Coronavirus COVID-19

but if it isn't contained and mutates then we are all canceled

  On 2/24/2020 at 5:37 AM, marf said:

but if it isn't contained and mutates then we are all canceled

Praise fucking jebus

  On 2/24/2020 at 5:42 AM, chenGOD said:

  On 2/24/2020 at 5:37 AM, marf said:

but if it isn't contained and mutates then we are all r cancelled

Praise fucking jebus

but if everyone is cancelled, then what does being cancelled mean? 

  On 2/24/2020 at 5:37 AM, marf said:

but if it isn't contained and mutates then we are all canceled

Stop the Hollywood!

If it isnt contained it will most likely be just another flu. Because, put simply, if it mutates into something way more deadly, it will contain itself because of its deadliness. The quicker people die, the less the virus can spread.

  On 2/24/2020 at 5:03 AM, chenGOD said:

Why are you concerned? 2,100 people dead, but they have a known treatment program. 2100 people dead, globally. Even if it was just in China that’s less than a drop in the bucket, population wise. 

Yeah but r a t i n g s

To be fair, because I have limited knowledge of these things, I do understand a certain degree of trepidation when it's a novel virus; I'm not sure how many similar viruses are discovered annually? When it's something new and not understood I do understand why people would get their guard up to this extent.

If doing a risk analysis the consequence and occurrence factors are unknown right? meh

Some interesting bits on virusses

  On 2/24/2020 at 7:45 AM, Hugh Mughnus said:

Yeah but r a t i n g s

 

To be fair, because I have limited knowledge of these things, I do understand a certain degree of trepidation when it's a novel virus; I'm not sure how many similar viruses are discovered annually? When it's something new and not understood I do understand why people would get their guard up to this extent.

If doing a risk analysis the consequence and occurrence factors are unknown right? meh

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Some very brief reading: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/publichealth/84759

(god i love procrastinating at work)

dudes last week I had a bacterial infection in one of my lungs. don't know exactly what it was, but it sure as fuck felt like the coronavirus. 

Seeing reports in Russia of raids and roundups of "Chinese looking" people being treated like criminals.

  On 2/24/2020 at 4:09 PM, chenGOD said:

Some very brief reading: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/publichealth/84759

 

(god i love procrastinating at work)

Thx for this. I didn’t think of asymptomatic spread and the implications for herd immunity, not concepts I was familiar with. 
 

Iran seems to be panicking.  Hajj begins on July 28, and it could be a disaster if this is not contained by then, in a region of the world with terrible hygiene, gaps in education and literacy, 2 million people shoulder to shoulder in the streets of Mecca.  The Saudis are shitting themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-closing-schools-scrambling-hospital-162515515.html

  On 2/24/2020 at 9:09 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Iran seems to be panicking.  Hajj begins on July 28, and it could be a disaster if this is not contained by then, in a region of the world with terrible hygiene, gaps in education and literacy, 2 million people shoulder to shoulder in the streets of Mecca.  The Saudis are shitting themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-closing-schools-scrambling-hospital-162515515.html

big oof.  don't people make that pilgrimage by foot in many cases? walking from village to village? 

those sanctions are extra problematic here. i wonder if the world health organization is allowed to send some supplies and help?

Seems to be spreading pretty rapidly around the globe now.  Wonder at what point international air travel will be stopped altogether....

Useful:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/

Ads in my instagram feed for fashionable face masks. God I hope this virus kills everyone.

too late Enthusiast. these guys just prayed it away

still not that worried. as godel said, a virus that kills you is a virus that can't spread...

that's not true though, if that was the case there wouldn't have been multiple examples in human history of lethal viruses/bacteria which have wiped out large numbers of people. a pathogen can have a long incubation time and still be highly contagious and have a high mortality rate. we know for a fact now that this one has a long incubation time (between 2 weeks to a month nearly), it's unsure exactly how lethal/contagious it is though, due to the unreliability of the Chinese reporting. we'll only know for sure when/if democratic countries start showing similar numbers to China.

i wonder if they'll cancel the olympics and possibly even the Euros if it doesn't chill out. whose fucking brilliant idea was it to have the euros all over the fuckin continent again?

what's that... like 200 million people?

nice.

  On 2/25/2020 at 9:22 PM, caze said:

that's not true though, if that was the case there wouldn't have been multiple examples in human history of lethal viruses/bacteria which have wiped out large numbers of people. a pathogen can have a long incubation time and still be highly contagious and have a high mortality rate. we know for a fact now that this one has a long incubation time (between 2 weeks to a month nearly), it's unsure exactly how lethal/contagious it is though, due to the unreliability of the Chinese reporting. we'll only know for sure when/if democratic countries start showing similar numbers to China.

Obviously lethal viruses can spread but the more lethal the virus is the easier it is to diagnose and contain plus it kills the carriers. So, actually the less lethal mutations and the mutations with less symptom are likelier to survive than the super deadly ones making the less dangerous "fitter" in the evolutionary sense, which sort of makes the virus population less dangerous over time because the people get the immunity by getting sick from the more common and less dangerous version.

The big old plagues were more or less caused by people not understanding how the disease is spreading and actually acting counter-productively, f.e. in medieval Europe killing the cats, who actually were killing the rats that carried the disease.

  On 2/25/2020 at 9:41 PM, zkom said:

Obviously lethal viruses can spread but the more lethal the virus is the easier it is to diagnose and contain plus it kills the carriers.

There are three independent factors though, so what you're saying only holds if the incubation time is short. You can be asymptomatic while still spreading a potentially lethal and highly contagious pathogen, this one has the first part down, hopefully not the latter two as well.

  On 2/25/2020 at 10:32 PM, Stickfigger said:

Yeah but mostly all will be old or poor so this virus really does like to punch down 

Ignoring everyone's callous disregard for the elderly for a moment (and also children), even if it's a small % of 'normals' who died, a worldwide pandemic would still see a large number of them dying too.

lol

Here in Milan there's plenty of people wearing face masks. Also the subway is way way less crowded, like 1 fifth of the people normally using it, as a lot of people work from home this week. Also saw some videos of supermarkets with empty shelves on the food section

China bans buying, selling and consumption of wild animals:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-just-banned-trade-consumption-190900992.html