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  On 7/13/2021 at 11:50 AM, Petajaja said:

the world needs to move on and learn to accept this virus like they do with colds / flu even IF it is more harmful, it's not going away,

fellas we got an IFer. 

is covid19 more harmful than the flu? simply no way to know innit

  On 7/13/2021 at 5:29 PM, zero said:

we need a new category of torture porn, where a gestapo like military force rounds up the anti-vaxxers, physically forces them to get vaccinated. they could live stream the shit. we could all be watching the fox noosers writhe and scream in agony as the jab goes into the arm. would be like some modern day version of an exorcism. huzzah!

I bet if Trump or Mike Lindell would autograph their arms, right wingers might get their jab on.

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  On 7/13/2021 at 5:36 PM, Rubin Farr said:

I bet if Trump or Mike Lindell would autograph their arms, right wingers might get their jab on.

remember el trumpo got the vaccine en secreto. he was publicly promoting all the ill effects of it, while meanwhile he and Melons were jabbing away. oh the hypocrisy never ends!

  On 7/13/2021 at 6:01 PM, zero said:

remember el trumpo got the vaccine en secreto. he was publicly promoting all the ill effects of it, while meanwhile he and Melons were jabbing away. oh the hypocrisy never ends!

Yes, the hypocrisy is off the charts. Tucker, Ron DeSantis, all of those douches got their jab as soon as possible, but now sit back in safety, and preach anti-vaxxing to their followers for purely financial gain and a power grab.

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Im happy to live outside of town. Im happy to get all the info via TV and internet and there is hospitals and vaccines. 
Think of living in Europe or USA 100 years ago when the Spanish flu was coming in.. Nobody understand what the fu'k was going on.. 

I don't like religion but I like to go to the buddha temple sometimes just to pray for all the best and show that Im thankful for what I have. 

  On 7/13/2021 at 6:29 PM, cern said:

Im happy to live outside of town. Im happy to get all the info via TV and internet and there is hospitals and vaccines. 
Think of living in Europe or USA 100 years ago when the Spanish flu was coming in.. Nobody understand what the fu'k was going on.. 

I don't like religion but I like to go to the buddha temple sometimes just to pray for all the best and show that Im thankful for what I have. 

I was in a Buddhist household for 10 years, so I hear ya. It’s funny how the Asian American communities travel to each other’s temples to check out the food. ? 

damn, fried bananas...

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While we're still nominating things that aren't actually viruses as viruses, I'd like to put forth consumer capitalism.

 

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  On 7/13/2021 at 8:12 PM, cern said:

Well maybe the money is not the virus itself.. I should call it greed. 

As currency becomes completely digital (except for maybe precious metals), money becomes even more meaningless. Just a code of numbers we all agree mean the same thing. When everything humans trade in becomes an abstract concept like credit, what is anything really worth? Ownership becomes obsolete, hey that’s commie talk. whoops 

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  On 7/13/2021 at 7:34 PM, Amen Warrior said:

While we're still nominating things that aren't actually viruses as viruses, I'd like to put forth consumer capitalism.

 

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kind of a weird thing going on where people can’t see how covid is complicated? so you see a lot of deniers and minimizers emphasizing the harmful effects of lockdowns and social isolation (which are very fucked up and real) but basically ignoring the harmful effects of covid itself (millions dead, who knows how many to now have lifelong complications, etc).
 

the fact is pandemics are bad. there’s not a chill and cool way of dealing with them. but it seems very obvious to me that without distancing, massk-wearing, targeted shutdowns, etc the situation would be way worse, many more people dead, many more sick, many businesses failing as a result of these things, etc. 

I think the people who are so upset only about how much lockdowns suck just don’t really want to admit how much of a massive bummer something like covid is bc that requires accepting a truly depressing fact of life. 
 

y’all are like keifer sutherland in “melancholia”

  On 7/13/2021 at 10:15 PM, Alcofribas said:

the fact is pandemics are bad. there’s not a chill and cool way of dealing with them.

the pandemic has been a good lesson in

A. the fact that there probably isn't a secret global elite calling the shot

B. actually maybe things would run better if there was

  On 7/13/2021 at 10:19 PM, Cryptowen said:

the pandemic has been a good lesson in

A. the fact that there probably isn't a secret global elite calling the shot

B. actually maybe things would run better if there was

the biggest feeling of panic for me around all this was very much the sense that in some essential way there really  is no one in charge. 

the deniers and conspiracy theorists are still captured by the big other with this; they're clinging to the sense that there is a big dad running things. in reality the ruling class are just a bunch of rworded assholes who largely have no clue what they're doing. they're experts at consolidating wealth, that's p much it.

  On 7/13/2021 at 10:32 PM, Alcofribas said:

the deniers and conspiracy theorists are still captured by the big other with this; they're clinging to the sense that there is a big dad running things. in reality the ruling class are just a bunch of rworded assholes who largely have no clue what they're doing. they're experts at consolidating wealth, that's p much it.

yeah i think this is part of why conspiracy theorists tend to be associated more with the political right, if we take the right as "prefers central authority" (i'm treating things like libertarianism & anarcho-capitalism as mutations of liberalism). the conspiracy theorist subconsciously wants there to be someone calling the shots, even if that person is out to get them. whereas in actuality a lot of modern chaos seems to emerge from the fact that there really isn't any sort of elite authority or organizing principle holding things together (in actual fact we inhabit a world in which those who most ruthlessly pursue their individual interest tend to rise to the top)

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  On 7/13/2021 at 10:38 PM, Cryptowen said:

yeah i think this is part of why conspiracy theorists tend to be associated more with the political right, if we take the right as "prefers central authority" (i'm treating things like libertarianism & anarcho-capitalism as mutations of liberalism). the conspiracy theorist subconsciously wants there to be someone calling the shots, even if that person is out to get them. whereas in actuality a lot of modern chaos seems to emerge from the fact that there really isn't any sort of elite authority or organizing principle holding things together (in actual fact we inhabit a world in which those who most ruthlessly pursue their individual interest tend to rise to the top)

the data shows conspiracy fruitcakes are associated with political extremes. left and right. and a lack of trust in institutions. which you could argue, goes opposite to the socalled "prefers central authority". 

there's nothing inherently better about leftist conspiracies then rightist. and there's no real reason to assume prevalence is bigger on one end of the political extremes.

perhaps certain subjects belong more on certain ends of those political extremes. But in the world of populism, left and right loose meaning very easily.

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Right wing people in the US act like all of a sudden they forgot their kids can’t attend public school without an MMR vaccine. Get wit it white folks.

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  On 7/13/2021 at 3:27 PM, dcom said:

Religion is the second worst and still ongoing pandemic we've ever had. Humanity itself is the worst.

So funny how often I come across people like yourself who'll say something like "humanity is the real disease" and claim themselves to be a nihilist or a misanthrope and at the same time be anti natural selection.. doesn't really add up does it?

Gotta say, all the circle jerking going on doesn't necessarily add up to intelligence which is clearly lacking here but don't worry, you belong to the vast majority of people in your views and opinions on the world so I'm sure you'll all be unified in your views in the not to distant future as governments finish getting the remaining laws through to stamp out any form of contrary thought to theirs.

  On 7/14/2021 at 11:28 AM, Petajaja said:

So funny how often I come across people like yourself who'll say something like "humanity is the real disease" and claim themselves to be a nihilist or a misanthrope and at the same time be anti natural selection.. doesn't really add up does it?

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  On 7/14/2021 at 12:25 PM, BCM said:

fuck this thread man

Why don't you just take a break? Go outside. Take a little holiday. Thanks to all those people getting vaxxinated, countries can open up as well. Nice moment to get outside again. ;D

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