Autechre - SIGN 16.10.20

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  On 9/17/2020 at 1:25 PM, Valleyfold said:

Lots of music contains no sound 

Wtf are you talking about?

music is arranged sound

  On 9/17/2020 at 3:32 PM, ArrraR said:

music is arranged sound

 

This definition reminds me of “intelligence is what intelligence tests measure”. Similar would be “poetry is arranged words”. That really sounds right to you?

                                                                                          is this music?

Sound is 3 

Pitch

Tambre

Sequence

the substance of sound is a psychic substance. your experience of sound is not an experience of changing air pressure.

  On 9/17/2020 at 12:00 PM, dingformung said:

The concepts represented by sound in music aren't sound but they are part of the music. Therefore all music contains sound but not all of the music is sound.

I don’t understand why is this so strange to ppl? Maybe it’s semantical dispute?

sounds man

yeah

sounds are just like music-less music.

yeah man

whoa

right?

yeah

  On 9/17/2020 at 3:37 PM, xox said:

 “poetry is arranged words”. That really sounds right to you

yes, Its the intention behind it, other wise it would just be a sentence.

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone or come across the wrong way. 

  On 9/17/2020 at 3:52 PM, ArrraR said:

yes, Its the intention behind it, other wise it would just be a sentence.

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone or come across the wrong way. 

So you say that poetry is arranged words but sentence is not?

  On 9/17/2020 at 4:07 PM, xox said:

So you say that poetry is arranged words but sentence is not?

No, they both can be described as arranged words.

  On 9/17/2020 at 3:40 PM, very honest said:

the substance of sound is a psychic substance. your experience of sound is not an experience of changing air pressure.

Agree, you experience sound through its properties in two connected domains: frequency domain and time domain. 
Music in your experience begins where those two domains end. Music is a higher level of abstraction.
imo

  On 9/17/2020 at 4:10 PM, ArrraR said:

No, they both can be described as arranged words.

I understand that but the point of definition is to define a thing differently in relation to another. So now try to find how poetry differs from sentences and you’ll find me there.

  On 9/17/2020 at 4:10 PM, eclipsis said:

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Is this for me?

  On 9/17/2020 at 4:17 PM, xox said:

I understand that but the point of definition is to define a thing in relation to another. So now try to find how poetry differs from sentences and you’ll find me there.

It's the intention

  On 9/17/2020 at 4:19 PM, ArrraR said:

It's the intention

Wat

  On 9/17/2020 at 4:17 PM, xox said:

So now try to find how poetry differs from sentences and you’ll find me there.

Poetry is word music.

Music is poetical sound.

Solved.

Watmm on understandings of music vol.6

“Arrange my dick... That’s your music!”

— Arthur Schopenhauer 

Is it possible for a moderator to lock threads temporarily?

Or at least could we just stick to basic bitching about the artwork please?

How about:

music = speech - text

Eat dat!

(music is a hyper polluted term, couldn't care less if it's accepted as such or not, same with art, same with poetry)

(like hey, i'm in Euro club *pumps fist* with Bach-oven, life's a success)