mTesc Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 2:29 PM, mTesc said: Thanks for reminding me about this, I really enjoy it and haven't revisited it since Sign was released. I don't specifically hear it in these sets, but there does seem to be a connection, and that makes sense because it was during some of the Twitch stream chats in the spring of 2020 that Sean said he and Rob had been working on the live material as their recent focus. It's likely contemporaneous. It seems to share some attributes with ecol4 as well, which also has its DNA in a lot of the live material (including London B, seemingly). Re: "visualizer tune" mentioned by @jaderpansen I do think that, for instance, I'm getting some really similar vibes at around the 52 min mark of London A. I haven't really compared the two musically, but sonically and in terms of feel, there might be a relationship, yeah. jaderpansen 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide mTesc's signature Hide all signatures http://tesconpol.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 5:17 PM, auxien said: heavenly Expand i logged in 4 hours after it was posted and it was already sold out. Can anyone tell me what the price was? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 On 8/25/2023 at 2:05 PM, Draft78 said: i logged in 4 hours after it was posted and it was already sold out. Can anyone tell me what the price was? it was 35 eurobucks Draft78 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 they should really get back into a more complex artwork that does the music justice. it looks like its supposed to mean something like some kind of stereo field or similar but it takes literally 3 seconds to make cern, toaoaoad and ooqpoo 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caged Element Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 Agree. Personally, I love Confield's. Suits the album perfectly. cern and X4creek 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Caged Element's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp: https://cagedelement.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mTesc Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) On 8/25/2023 at 2:23 PM, o00o said: they should really get back into a more complex artwork that does the music justice. it looks like its supposed to mean something like some kind of stereo field or similar but it takes literally 3 seconds to make I'm not really in love with it. I like it, maybe, as a color guide and for its atmosphere, but I would appreciate if there were a bit more to it. It also doesn't look a lot like the music to me. Something similar but with a lot of smaller white and red pinpricks of light would coincide better with what I'm hearing. But, thankfully, they didn't ask me : ) I feel kind of similarly about Sign & Plus. I try to think of orange & green a/e abstractions as if they're glowing, and I think that would have worked a lot more effectively. If it looked like they were sort of neon, giving off light - and, instead of static dark grey & light grey backgrounds, there appeared to be a sense of depth or maybe even some ghosting artifacts (like landscape abstractions or rows of windows, something very faint). I really liked the One-Six, NTS, elseq, & AE LIVE visual representations, though, so the last decade has been mostly hits from my perspective. Oversteps also had artwork that I found exceptionally unrelated to how I perceived the music, but I thought that the font was spot on. Edited August 26, 2023 by mTesc Draft78 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide mTesc's signature Hide all signatures http://tesconpol.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 o00o, t yst r, NVious and 7 others 10 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 interesting evolution ya'll can't fuck with ian zaizai, kichiguy, prdctvsm and 3 others 6 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlybog Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 i actually like the tension between cryptic subdued artwork vs the hyper detailed maximalism of the sound. it would feel very predictable for them to lean into some bio-mechanical deviantart 3d render porn. It could date itself pretty quickly, too. Somehow Draft and Confield still look shit hot, with that said... markedone, aencre, neurone and 9 others 10 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gnarlybog's signature Hide all signatures loud flowers Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monoppus Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 Nice to see them all together in sequence. All of that art is cool and each one fits the music well. Good work. may be rude, kichiguy and d-a-m-o 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 Concerning artworks: They're functional and just enough to make em feel distinctive without providing some explicit kinda guidance to the audio experience, which is good in my book (AE play in the dark for a reason after all). That being said: We've had our fair share of beanies by now. Maybe time to move on to some other vegetable for a change? may be rude, neurone and markedone 1 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mTesc Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 This image from @stev & the Melbourne show (from the accompanying thread) is almost exactly what I had in my head in the above description. Thanks! colunga, gnarlybog, neurone and 2 others 5 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide mTesc's signature Hide all signatures http://tesconpol.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 8:43 PM, jaderpansen said: without providing some explicit kinda guidance to the audio experience They do though. Any artwork at all will do this, no matter how minimal it is Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 10:19 PM, toaoaoad said: They do though. Any artwork at all will do this, no matter how minimal it is Tru. Still on the lower end of the suggestiveness spectrum in my estimation. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 11:29 PM, jaderpansen said: Tru. Still on the lower end of the suggestiveness spectrum in my estimation. I’m sure Ian scoured the Bull Wallet thread many times for inspiration. Stock, jaderpansen and Worlds Most Johnsson 2 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 6:58 PM, Alcofribas said: sean walks across the stage to the table. applause. rob follows behind. again, applause (maybe this is continued applause, the crowd applauds this whole time for both brothers equally). the laptops are ready. sean presses the space bar and both screens light up. the system is activated. the rig is running. not much can be seen on stage, just the glow of two faces. british. but not "chavs." rob is drinking stella and soon is throwing up into a water bottle. sean is agitated as he had just been wrestling off stage. the beats are skipping all around. formant synthesis. the kick sounds like it has a .0000000001 millisecond delay on it which gives it that classic "ae sound." it kinda sounds like metal tubes are falling down a stairwell. occasionally the crowd hears liquid tones, more organic. rob seems to be doing not much at all but then we get a signature ae pad for approximately 80 seconds. there's so much emotion in this pad the crowd seems to be tearing up. i imagine myself in the crowd. the pad evokes memories of my grandma, a beach where the water meets the horizon at an ambiguous point, various blurred memories. i am disgruntled bc this feels too "boc." what's next, a sesame street sample? the sound of a child's laughter. sean seems to detect my exact feeling bc he presses a series of keys (i'm thinking F > Return > 5 > ^ > Return) and the beat becomes completely "fucked" and probably around 400bpm. everything is so fast it sounds like a ferrari (aka "lambo") going top speed underwater. there's a surreal atmosphere. i believe this is reverb. these guys must be using custom fx. the reverb makes it sound like there is a separate ae concert happening in the distance somewhere. you can't quite hear it but it's there, like a barely perceptible memory trying to break through. sean gets mad bc he hears someone in the audience saying "this is generative" so the set is cut short. rob seems confused and keeps typing on the keyboard. but sean has powered down the system. nothing can be heard. the lights turn back on. everyone looks around kinda like "woah wild mental wtf." the crowd shuffles out. rob is still clacking away at the keyboard. one wonders if he's trying to boot up the rig or if he's typing to his family back in the "uk." Expand this is literally what happened in Sydney, like word for word. baph and Alcofribas 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide usagi's signature Hide all signatures On 4/17/2013 at 2:45 PM, Alcofribas said: afaik i usually place all my cum drops on scientifically sterilized glass slides which are carefully frozen and placed in trash cans throughout the city labelled "for women alco" with my social security and phone numbers. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejewk Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 Alcofriprecog prdctvsm 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) I think these live performances are the best they have done for years. Tracks are on constant rotation currently. This also feels much more human controlled while the previous releases felt more like they build machines for each track and let them run with minimal interference this now has harsh emotional twists and turns and a very satisfying jazz like playfulness Edited August 29, 2023 by o00o jules, neurone and Stock 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 4:33 PM, gnarlybog said: it would feel very predictable for them to lean into some bio-mechanical deviantart 3d render porn. yes On 8/26/2023 at 4:33 PM, gnarlybog said: Somehow Draft and Confield still look shit hot, with that said... and yes ! On 8/29/2023 at 10:23 AM, o00o said: Tracks are on constant rotation currently. This also feels much more human controlled while the previous releases felt more like they build machines for each track and let them run with minimal interference this now has harsh emotional twists totally Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 Finally got round to listening to the Milano set. Still a handful to wrap my head around, seems like this will take some time. Does anyone also get the impression the part from around 28:00 tot 35:00 is still a progression of the part around the same time in the 2016/2018 sets (that part that always leads into the heavy bit)? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2957839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockUser Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) On 8/17/2023 at 12:01 AM, neurone said: I somehow suspected AE to be part of the Gescom's AMKS session, and, how the scratching parts sound like (london B last quarter), give me a clue towards this. - great live sets, yes. they're AcE . I always thought it was just them. This has maybe been discussed elsewhere on this board. And yes, after listening to London B, I am even more convinced. They probably built some Max patch that does all this insane scratching based on some number flow input. And it would make more sense to put out a one hour jam of this under the Gescom disguise. That jam is killer, loved hearing all these old school samples! And hearing the "fresh" sample in London B gave me a BIG smile! I've only really started listening to AE_Live 2022 these last few days, my summer was dominated by Ceephax. The 27m-42m section in HELSINKI reminds me of tt1pd, maybe some distant cousin..? The intensity is different, but the fingernails-slidin'-down-the-washboard hats, the insane buzzy synths later on.. Maybe thinking of Autechre in terms of tracks just doesn't make sense anymore.. Even with the albums. Maybe, since at least the 2014/2015 live stuff, it's all just Autechre in it's purest form. This shit is free.... Completely unfettered. Edited September 5, 2023 by BlockUser Turbo Zwanengestuif, Scaramouche, neurone and 2 others 5 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2958693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, BlockUser said: They probably built some Max patch that does all this insane scratching based on some number flow input. And it would make more sense to put out a one hour jam of this under the Gescom disguise. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2958716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) On 9/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, BlockUser said: That jam is killer, loved hearing all these old school samples! And hearing the "fresh" sample in London B gave me a BIG smile! yeah boy. same here Edited September 5, 2023 by neurone Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2958718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockUser Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 8:32 PM, neurone said: I don't even know anymore why I wrote about it being Max - It's a given. And I haven't even smoked weed in a long time now for 'Chres sake. neurone 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2958754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 Sean addressed the AMKS scratch session in the AMA, it was definitely them EXTRASUPER81 and neurone 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/7/#findComment-2958785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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