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Picasso sucks cuz he was influenced by Cezanne lol what a hack.

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lincoln was an African American lover

 

edit: and I wish more electronic musicians would take inspiration from Bach as Bach is the greatest musician to ever live

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just like the basis for BoC's Beck remix, is Adam Ant's "Wonderful"

and Tycho's best song "Dictaphones Lament" is a direct take off of the live version intro to AFX's "Laughable Butane Bob" from the '97 shows.

 

you can transpose them on top of one another.

 

i don't have a problem w/ it.

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  grinningcat said:
  Ghostbusters III said:
aphex twin uses lots of black key (pentatonic scale) melodies on most of his early material because he doesnt know how to play keyboards for real........... discuss

 

i do that too.. is it considered bad? the black keys sounds so good together though

 

its not considered bad, i mean its obvious to anyone who can seriously play keyboards that its a 'trick' to make stuff sound good without actually knowing how to compose properly. I cannot include myself on people who play keyboards seriously. I use to play nothing but black key melodies and it was fun as fuck. To me its about the same or maybe even worse than making all your guitar based music with power chords.

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Guest earlgrey

black key melodies = pentatonic scales (PENTA = five; there are five black keys per octave.)

pentatonic scales are widely used all over the world. they are ubiquitous - especially the minor pentatonic scale - in blues and rock music. they are easy to play but widely appreciated. Even when I play the more traditional (at least in the western tradition) heptatonic (seven note) scales like the major and minor scale I tend to focus on the five pentatonic notes and just throw in the other two sometimes for flavor.

 

what are the significance of five and seven, you say? I believe that this is relevant: (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g269...5/ai_2699000545)

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Adequate operation of short-term memory is crucial when performing such everyday activities as reading or conversing. However, the capacity of short-term memory is quite limited. Studies have shown consistently that there is room in short-term memory for an average of seven items, plus or minus two (known as magic number seven). In experiments in which subjects are asked to recall a series of unrelated numbers or words, for example, some are able to recall nine and others only five, but most will recall seven words.

so, while some people are comfortable with seven items in short-term memory, it seems that pretty much everyone is OK with five items, hence (IMHO) the comparatively universal appeal of pentatonic music. (and the commercial failure of, say, twelve-tone music)

i cant see what it has anything to do with memory, its just note clashes. if you notice the 2 notes that arent in the pentatonic, they are both a semitone from other notes ie: weak notes. if the smallest gap you have is a tone, you are never going to be able to get a harsh clash.

Guest earlgrey

well - note that it's short-term ('working') memory, not long-term memory. My hunch is that this natural limitation on human attention means that if you try and cram too many notes into a short melody, the listener might just get kinda disoriented and e.g. lose a feel for the key of the piece.. (as you approach using all twelve notes (or beyond) it's harder to keep track of what note the piece returns to for resolution.)

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