Flashbulb - Pale Blue Dot

:heart: flashbulb :heart:

where can I get the album?´

I heard some tracks from "Soundtrack To A Vacant Life.." that was nice!

electronic music IS BRITISH, F.O. YOU YANKEES!

So, as far as the album goes (all artist-hating aside) I think it is very well put together.

I for one am a huge fan of ambient and soundscape type records. One of my favorite artists of all time is Lustmord. I can't get enough of his eerie, creepy, and haunting musical worlds. His records are all awesome in their own ways and are all true works of auditory art.

Now when it comes to Benn Jordan's new "space music" album, I feel he did a very good job as well. As an ambient record it doesn't have as profound an affect on me as Lustmord's albums do, but it still is awesome. I fell like I'm floating through a tranquil scene as galaxies and stars wiz by me.

By no means is this a "Flashbulb" album nor does it have the same emtion of one (at least I personally don't think so) but as a concept, ambient album, I give it two thumbs up.

nah.

  harky said:

  Amen Warrior said:

When other artists get slagged off on here, why don't we get a weird passive-aggressive overreaction from their fans as well?

I remember last christmas bangface, the people that came to see the flashbulb were obnoxious misfits that started chanting flashbulb over ceephax's set (how rude is that?!). And then lots of them left after the flashbulb performed. It's seems that a lot of the people who are into the flashbulb are ONLY into the flashbulb, which i find a bit odd considering the derivative nature of his choons.

Anyway after his no-show at the bangface weekender i went online to check out what happened, found his blog...he's a fucking egomaniac and his fans are sycophantic mentalists that treat him like some demi-god. He's such an egomaniac in fact that i wouldn't put it past him to have posted in this thread already.

 

I'll check the album out as it's usually the beats that put me off the flashbulbs music, but to be honest it's hard to enjoy someone's music when you know they're that conceited and egotistical.

 

From my memories in watching the set, as there was a video crew recording that night, Benn introduced Ceephax himself, and kept motioning for the crowd to shut up and give Andy respect when they were chanting for him.

 

And you're slagging on him for being arrogant when apologizing on his blog for those who wanted to see him at the weekender, directly after slagging on him for being too much of a big deal at the previous Bangface.

 

Benn is very humble and friendly in person, and I don't know anyone who's met him and thought he was arrogant or even self-reserved. I have read about a dozen experiences like this however. I just don't see how you can judge a person's personality poorly when you don't have ANY personal experiences to judge them by.

My point wasn't that he was too much of a big deal, its that his fans were rude bastards.

I accept your point though, i haven't personally met the guy and i shouldn't really pass judgement. He came across as a bit arrogant at that bangface, and his public blog is pretty self indulgent - if he's not actually like this then tell your bezzy mate ben to sort it out because it's putting normal people off.

  vodor said:

  MadnessR said:

Yeah, maybe I should be blowing smoke up afx's ass for great songs like: Bit, Aussois, Bit4, Bonus High Frequency Sounds, or any of the absolutely ground breaking tracks in the Universal Indicator series.

Or perhaps I should be talking about Squarepusher's great talent... Wow! Just listen to these wonderful tracks:Cranium Oxide, Itti-Fack, 8 Bit Mix #2, Melt 14.6, or the greatest track on Hello Everything:Vacuum Garden. (Sure glad I spent all that extra money on the vinyl so I could get the bonus CD of more Vacuum Trax...changed my life!!!)

Don't even get me started on Autechre's noise tracks. I've never felt ripped off by Mr. Benn Jordan. At least his music IS music.

 

Funny how people pitch a bitch because I posted this in General Banter. Sorry. Should leave the main page of the WATMM forums to enlightening topics such as:

 

i have started an online recipe book

contributions welcome

how often do you groom your scrotal sac?

 

sarah palin is cool

 

lol. just lol.

lol. oh look harkys here.

  WhatNot said:

e-dis

lol

  Deepex said:

Is this actually the real record? I've not heard any flashbulb tracks before, but if they stink as badly as this does, the guy deserves to be:

1. Dragged on a hurdle (a wooden frame) to the place of execution.

2. Hanged by the neck for a short time or until almost dead.

3. Disembowelled and emasculated and the genitalia and entrails burned before the condemned's eyes

4. Beheaded and the body divided into four parts

..or just slagged on the forums, one or the other

Joyrex should create a word filter for ''The Flashbulb''. That would be funny.

LOL the flashbulb must think he's the next jean michael jarre or somehting. jesus christ what a fucking homo.

fuck you guys i'm gonna listen to the beatles they're way idmer than the

You people don't understand the Flashbulb clearly. You just disregard his albums as "ripoffs" or stupid, well I'm here to tell you that they're not. Benn Jordan (The Flashbulb's real name) is a skilled musician. He has MADE A LIVING off of making music for commercial companies and he is clearly skilled enough to be hired to make MUSIC FOR TV SHOWS. Autechre doesn't. Squarepusher doesn't. But that doesn't really adress the issue, because you can be signed to TV shows and still make shitty music. But The Flashbulb doesn't, his music is really good. I have spent around 2 years now listening to The Flashbulb (who is realyl the one who got me into the electronic music scene) and I have to say some of his albums are the most emotional pieces I have come across. Filled with emotion, his songs move me and I've showed him to my friends who mostly listen to metal and they like his tracks too. This new album is great. It sounds like Helios, but spacey. It's quite incredibly really to be looking at his stuff and just literally feel as though you are literally and physically flying through space.

Please, I urge you to do the following: buy a nice pair of headphones, get a nice FLAC or high quality MP3 and just lay on your dark bedroom and listen to his music and you can find complexiities and interesting stuff around each wave formation. This is what hyou have to do the Flashbulb, just listen to him like this. Because you'll never understand how deep some of his music gets to be and only the really concentrated can even begin to discover the flashbulb like I have.

I want to leave you with a quote from boutboulman of the the Official Flashbulb Forums :

    Quote

I remember once I was searching for Acidwolf info and one of the google results was a watmm on which Mark had posted a couple times. No matter that Mark knows what he's talking about, clearly knows Benn, runs some of his shit.. No, the watmm tossers are always right in everything they say. Tossers. I'm not even interested in going on watmm, we don't need them to tell us how good Aphex or SP or BOC or muziq or Ae are, cos we know. We also know that there are actually other good acts in the universe beyond those five.

Pah-thetic.

:)

This I think summarizes my thoughts and feelings on the matter. I urge you to take agood look at this passage and tlel me what yout hink

Happy times!

~DpRhytm

wow, thanks for talking to us like we've never listened to fucking music before. people like YOU are exactly the reason why people don't take his music seriously.

  cornelius (aka ben) said:

wow, thanks for talking to us like we've never listened to fucking music before. people like YOU are exactly the reason why people don't take his music seriously.

No, people like YOU are why people don't take music seriously

There's 2 types of music

Art

Entertainment

I think that The Flashbulb has beautifully fallen successful for both of these. This is why I think he's a great artist.

the flashbulb is the mcdonald's of the music industry, and there are millions of americans who enjoy mcdonald's and you just happen to be one of them. congratulations, retard.

  DPRhythm said:

You people don't understand the Flashbulb clearly. You just disregard his albums as "ripoffs" or stupid, well I'm here to tell you that they're not. Benn Jordan (The Flashbulb's real name) is a skilled musician. He has MADE A LIVING off of making music for commercial companies and he is clearly skilled enough to be hired to make MUSIC FOR TV SHOWS. Autechre doesn't. Squarepusher doesn't. But that doesn't really adress the issue, because you can be signed to TV shows and still make shitty music. But The Flashbulb doesn't, his music is really good. I have spent around 2 years now listening to The Flashbulb (who is realyl the one who got me into the electronic music scene) and I have to say some of his albums are the most emotional pieces I have come across. Filled with emotion, his songs move me and I've showed him to my friends who mostly listen to metal and they like his tracks too. This new album is great. It sounds like Helios, but spacey. It's quite incredibly really to be looking at his stuff and just literally feel as though you are literally and physically flying through space.

 

Please, I urge you to do the following: buy a nice pair of headphones, get a nice FLAC or high quality MP3 and just lay on your dark bedroom and listen to his music and you can find complexiities and interesting stuff around each wave formation. This is what hyou have to do the Flashbulb, just listen to him like this. Because you'll never understand how deep some of his music gets to be and only the really concentrated can even begin to discover the flashbulb like I have.

 

I want to leave you with a quote from boutboulman of the the Official Flashbulb Forums :

 

    Quote

I remember once I was searching for Acidwolf info and one of the google results was a watmm on which Mark had posted a couple times. No matter that Mark knows what he's talking about, clearly knows Benn, runs some of his shit.. No, the watmm tossers are always right in everything they say. Tossers. I'm not even interested in going on watmm, we don't need them to tell us how good Aphex or SP or BOC or muziq or Ae are, cos we know. We also know that there are actually other good acts in the universe beyond those five.

Pah-thetic.

:)

 

This I think summarizes my thoughts and feelings on the matter. I urge you to take agood look at this passage and tlel me what yout hink

 

Happy times!

~DpRhytm

Hey man. It sounds like you've really gotten into The Flashbulb! That's awesome. If I had never heard much other electronic music before it would blow me away. But having entered through Aphex Twin and Squarepusher, I have a very different perspective on the genre.

You say The Flashbulb has music in commercials and on TV. This is the very reason many people here don't like him. They say he is selling out. So this is not a positive point of argument in many peoples eyes. You also say that no one else has been in commercials/tv but Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada are used all the time.

Now, I am not really a fan of The Flashbulb. I find that the deep and intricate layers you speak of in his music, to already have been covered ground by people like Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, and countless other artists doing post-jungle electronic music. You really don't have to tell me how to listen to this kind of music either, because I (and I know many others here have too) have spent hours listening to complex, emotional music laying down in the dark. I've probably tried it with The Flashbulb at some point. You should hear "Drukqs" or "Richard D. James Album" by Aphex Twin, or "Big Loada" or "Go Plastic" by Squarepusher. I know this music may not be quite as easy to digest as The Flashbulb, but trust me it is worth it.

Cornelius' negativity is funny.

  Deepex said:

  DPRhythm said:

You people don't understand the Flashbulb clearly. You just disregard his albums as "ripoffs" or stupid, well I'm here to tell you that they're not. Benn Jordan (The Flashbulb's real name) is a skilled musician. He has MADE A LIVING off of making music for commercial companies and he is clearly skilled enough to be hired to make MUSIC FOR TV SHOWS. Autechre doesn't. Squarepusher doesn't. But that doesn't really adress the issue, because you can be signed to TV shows and still make shitty music. But The Flashbulb doesn't, his music is really good. I have spent around 2 years now listening to The Flashbulb (who is realyl the one who got me into the electronic music scene) and I have to say some of his albums are the most emotional pieces I have come across. Filled with emotion, his songs move me and I've showed him to my friends who mostly listen to metal and they like his tracks too. This new album is great. It sounds like Helios, but spacey. It's quite incredibly really to be looking at his stuff and just literally feel as though you are literally and physically flying through space.

 

Please, I urge you to do the following: buy a nice pair of headphones, get a nice FLAC or high quality MP3 and just lay on your dark bedroom and listen to his music and you can find complexiities and interesting stuff around each wave formation. This is what hyou have to do the Flashbulb, just listen to him like this. Because you'll never understand how deep some of his music gets to be and only the really concentrated can even begin to discover the flashbulb like I have.

 

I want to leave you with a quote from boutboulman of the the Official Flashbulb Forums :

 

    Quote

I remember once I was searching for Acidwolf info and one of the google results was a watmm on which Mark had posted a couple times. No matter that Mark knows what he's talking about, clearly knows Benn, runs some of his shit.. No, the watmm tossers are always right in everything they say. Tossers. I'm not even interested in going on watmm, we don't need them to tell us how good Aphex or SP or BOC or muziq or Ae are, cos we know. We also know that there are actually other good acts in the universe beyond those five.

Pah-thetic.

:)

 

This I think summarizes my thoughts and feelings on the matter. I urge you to take agood look at this passage and tlel me what yout hink

 

Happy times!

~DpRhytm

 

Now, I am not really a fan of The Flashbulb. I find that the deep and intricate layers you speak of in his music, to already have been covered ground by people like Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, and countless other artists doing post-jungle electronic music. You really don't have to tell me how to listen to this kind of music either, because I (and I know many others here have too) have spent hours listening to complex, emotional music laying down in the dark. I've probably tried it with The Flashbulb at some point. You should hear "Drukqs" or "Richard D. James Album" by Aphex Twin, or "Big Loada" or "Go Plastic" by Squarepusher. I know this music may not be quite as easy to digest as The Flashbulb, but trust me it is worth it.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, and Benn has said in interviews that he thinks Tom and Richard are amazing musicians and he's honored to be influenced by them. But the thing that I find so fascinating about these arguments here, is that nothing The Flashbulb has made in the last 4 years could even be considered electronic music, much less a carbon copy of these other artists.

I still hear other influences in the new stuff, and I hear influences in any music I hear.

You can't deny that he's accomplished a lot. In a failing record industry he has emerged as a highly sought after composer for film and video, which might seem easy, but it definitely takes a lot more chops, diversity, and talent than putting out records.

Let's step off the high horse. If an artistic ad campaign or television show offered Squarepusher, Aphex, or any of the above 50k+ for 30 seconds of music, I promise you they'd drop whatever it is that they were doing instantaneously.

Oh wait, do a little research and you'll see that most of them have for a fraction of that.

Regardless of what you think of him, me, or his other fans...the dude has a Cannes award (along with almost every other award for cinematic composing) sitting on his bookshelf. I'm pretty sure he could give a fuck what jaded electronic music snobs think of his endeavors, nor should he.

Then why come defend him so bold heartily?

bold heartily

thats a new one

isnt it whole heartedly

idk

electronic music

flahblub

When you ask why people are so quick to defend him, I have to ask why you people are so quick to criticize him? Benn Jordan's music changes very often and is never the same experience from album to album. This, of course, means that many of his albums deviate away from electronic music and similar genres quite often. I, as a fan of his music, don't see this as a bad thing. I see it as a natural evolution and progression of his music, and as something that helps him stay the best artist he can be.

While it may be useless, in all honesty, for people like me to defend him and his music, I don't see why everyone her feels the need to hate on him. He's not simply an electronic music artist, so don't criticize him for not being one. He spans many different genres, and that just something his fans like to hear.

/rant

oh god. all you fanboys who constantly pop up when someone slags your hero around here, makes it so fun. i bet you all get your knickers in a bunch on the flashblub messageboard and head out here to put us straight. how dare we not like the same music as you do!

for me flahbulbs stuff is derivative and boring. sure, he has the production skills, but still the music sounds hollow to me. all that "emotional" stuff you go on about in his music, just seems contrived and frankly quite pretentious. an easy sell to the crowd who's first contact to "electronic music" is teh flahsblub, no doubt.

so he makes commercial ditties for several grands, good on him, completely forgettable music that plays in the background of some facial cream ad. awesome. and he even got awards, just wow, might mean something to someone who thinks shiny trinkets on some bookshelf gives the music some more merit and puts it above criticism.

i don't even know why i care to write this. maybe cuz it's only teh flashblub fanboys who come here and whine when we slag him off. don't see other fans storm in here when we slag someone else off. as i said earlier, why not just let us shit on your hero as much as we want here. it doesn't take away you're enjoyment of his music does it? if it does, then it's not really my problem, is it.

  azatoth said:

oh god. all you fanboys who constantly pop up when someone slags your hero around here, makes it so fun. i bet you all get your knickers in a bunch on the flashblub messageboard and head out here to put us straight. how dare we not like the same music as you do!

for me flahbulbs stuff is derivative and boring. sure, he has the production skills, but still the music sounds hollow to me. all that "emotional" stuff you go on about in his music, just seems contrived and frankly quite pretentious. an easy sell to the crowd who's first contact to "electronic music" is teh flahsblub, no doubt.

so he makes commercial ditties for several grands, good on him, completely forgettable music that plays in the background of some facial cream ad. awesome. and he even got awards, just wow, might mean something to someone who thinks shiny trinkets on some bookshelf gives the music some more merit and puts it above criticism.

i don't even know why i care to write this. maybe cuz it's only teh flashblub fanboys who come here and whine when we slag him off. don't see other fans storm in here when we slag someone else off. as i said earlier, why not just let us shit on your hero as much as we want here. it doesn't take away you're enjoyment of his music does it? if it does, then it's not really my problem, is it.

1. I don't care for AFX, Squarepusher, or Autechre all that much. I see no reason to take pride into not caring for it. More importantly, on The Flashbulb forum nobody is wishing for them to DIE for releasing a new album.

2. Do you honestly think that ad and film agencies search for completely forgettable and rubbish music to license or have composed? Or do you think that it is a multibillion dollar industry that basically defines what will be cool and what will not?

3. The internet is for piracy, porn, and arguing to people without faces or real names. That would be the root of the problem.