Glitch plugins

Other than the dblue glitch plugin and live cut, are there any other good plugins out there?

no theyre all shit

except gross beat

a glitch plugin? seriously? how about you just fucking do it yourself, man. honestly, how hard is it to chop shit up and apply effects to it or make a field recording and mangle it? jesus people are getting so lazy these days. no wonder electronic music sucks lately.

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  catsonearth said:

a glitch plugin? seriously? how about you just fucking do it yourself, man. honestly, how hard is it to chop shit up and apply effects to it or make a field recording and mangle it? jesus people are getting so lazy these days. no wonder electronic music sucks lately.

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i dont get it

  aron said:

i dont get it

He doesnt know me, and has ago at me for being lazy, and i laugh so i love him for it.

edit: spell

buffer override?

Glitch plugins are not a good idea, I've learned.

The VIrus TI has a new mode, called the Atomizer, which is basically a glitch/stutter effect. When I first heard about it, I thought, oh man how lame... but actually using it, it's very intuitive and fun to use. You can "play" the glitch phrases, opposed to relying on a semi random plugin, or spending hours cutting shit up. (however, a quick gander on youtube shows how quickly it's being over used, and in the most unimaginative way)

Glitch plugins aren't the problem.... it's the laziness of the user. If you just turn on the plugin, and let it run.... then yeah... fucking lame. But if you record a long take of semi random glitch, and then go through and cut it up, and reorganize it into a coherent musical statement, then I have no problem. My main beef is the heavy reliance on random and semi random events as a final result in music making, opposed to a compositional tool for germinating ideas.

  Kcinsu said:

Glitch plugins aren't the problem.... it's the laziness of the user

Thats what i was gona say, the only reason things sound the same and shit is becos no one uses them right, or in an original way . A 303 springs to mind.

Any way the main reason im searching 4 a plugin is to introduce to my livesets on certain things a certain times.

live use is an entirely different discussion altogether...

  David R James said:

  aron said:

i dont get it

 

 

He doesnt know me, and has ago at me for being lazy, and i laugh so i love him for it.

 

edit: spell

you're right, the only thing i can know about you is the info you provide, which was limited to "me want glitch plugin". i'm sorry for assuming you meant you wanted to make music with said plugin, which would indeed make you a lazy bastard, in my opinion. i happen to think relying on plugins to do something for you that you could easily do yourself is lazy, kinda lame and takes the soul out of your music.

but if you want a plugin for live performance, you should probably mention it somewhere in your post because not every plugin is ideal for live use.

  catsonearth said:

  David R James said:

  aron said:

i dont get it

 

 

He doesnt know me, and has ago at me for being lazy, and i laugh so i love him for it.

 

edit: spell

 

you're right, the only thing i can know about you is the info you provide, which was limited to "me want glitch plugin". i'm sorry for assuming you meant you wanted to make music with said plugin, which would indeed make you a lazy bastard, in my opinion. i happen to think relying on plugins to do something for you that you could easily do yourself is lazy, kinda lame and takes the soul out of your music.

 

but if you want a plugin for live performance, you should probably mention it somewhere in your post because not every plugin is ideal for live use.

 

Ur rite i should of said. Soz

  David R James said:

  catsonearth said:

  David R James said:

  aron said:

i dont get it

 

 

He doesnt know me, and has ago at me for being lazy, and i laugh so i love him for it.

 

edit: spell

 

you're right, the only thing i can know about you is the info you provide, which was limited to "me want glitch plugin". i'm sorry for assuming you meant you wanted to make music with said plugin, which would indeed make you a lazy bastard, in my opinion. i happen to think relying on plugins to do something for you that you could easily do yourself is lazy, kinda lame and takes the soul out of your music.

 

but if you want a plugin for live performance, you should probably mention it somewhere in your post because not every plugin is ideal for live use.

 

 

Ur rite i should of said. Soz

  catsonearth said:

  David R James said:

  aron said:

i dont get it

 

 

He doesnt know me, and has ago at me for being lazy, and i laugh so i love him for it.

 

edit: spell

 

you're right, the only thing i can know about you is the info you provide, which was limited to "me want glitch plugin". i'm sorry for assuming you meant you wanted to make music with said plugin, which would indeed make you a lazy bastard, in my opinion. i happen to think relying on plugins to do something for you that you could easily do yourself is lazy, kinda lame and takes the soul out of your music.

 

but if you want a plugin for live performance, you should probably mention it somewhere in your post because not every plugin is ideal for live use.

well now you're crossing into a much deeper conversation about technology and how it makes things easier or more efficient.... and at what cost.

some would argue that it helps, because anything that cuts down on the technical laborious activities, allows you to get whats in your head, out faster, and thus more conductive to creativity and expression.

glitch plugins are really obvious sounding to the trained ear when they run their course and are just thrown into a song without any rhyme or reason to it. It's kinda like buying a triton to sound like dr dre. When you hear any rhythmic variable in a song that goes "stutter/modulation/reverse/bitcrush/etc" it doesn't take a rocket scientist to hear how lazy it sounds overall.

More often than not all the most interesting sounds you'll hear in electronic music are made using VERY BASIC tools. The only difference is that they are used in such a way where the composer has complete control and it comes out sounding as such. Squarepusher would be a good case of this. You could have every single gadget box as him, but good luck having it come out that way in the end unless you've worshipped his discography for years, and even then he'll stay ahead of ya when his next album drops

basically if you're coming on some electronic music forum asking for glitch plugins, you're already starting out with a foot in the grave

I agree with you guys, in what you are saying... but I also think you may be simplifying the argument to prove your point... it's really not that simple any way you look at it. In the end, it's what the composer does... regardless of how basic, or how advanced the tools are.

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My main beef is the heavy reliance on random and semi random events as a final result in music making, opposed to a compositional tool for germinating ideas.

so you're saying real music doesn't involve happy accidents?

  epsy said:

basically if you're coming on some electronic music forum asking for glitch plugins, you're already starting out with a foot in the grave

Sorry mate but ive been making music 4 years im just trying spice up my live sets

  chimera slot mom said:

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My main beef is the heavy reliance on random and semi random events as a final result in music making, opposed to a compositional tool for germinating ideas.

 

so you're saying real music doesn't involve happy accidents?

I didn't say that at all.

I'm talking about the use of random generators, such as a random glitch thing, without having any hands on control over it.

I appreciate what such applications offer... and I use them myself... but I never just run them, and be done with it... I go back and edit, and reorganize, so that the final result is a thought out phrase, or what have you....

A happy accident is something entirely different.

and ps, I didn't say anything about "real music" I said things that bother me. don't try to make this into some kind of righteous debate.

  Kcinsu said:

and ps, I didn't say anything about "real music" I said things that bother me. don't try to make this into some kind of righteous debate.

Sorry to drag u into this. Didnt think it was such a touchy subject 4 sum.

Cheers 4 ur info on the virus.

I drag myself into things... no worries.

put arpeggiators before your drums tracks and play with the unsynced timing

also on that note if you have any delays with a bpm sync hit the sync on/off button rhythmically and see what happens

use out of time volume and distortion automation

process entire tracks with convolution using samples of breaking glass and resample them into your mix

fuck I wanna try that last one