Do you enjoy the act of discussing music?

  autopilot said:

I like to play people stuff off Rossz Csillag. It's got the familiarity of traditional music so they can get a sense of context with the fucked up, odd time signature beats. It's pretty much unanimously liked by everyone I play it for.

yeah, even my grandmother liked some of it. for realz. She turns 90 today.

discussing music? no

When people ask i just say I like all kinds of music as long as it's interesting to me.

If they press I say jazz, classical, electronic, rock, hip hop, pop.

Then I quickly change the subject.

  sneaksta303 said:

yeah, even my grandmother liked some of it. for realz. She turns 90 today.

She probably dug the Billie Holiday song. :angry:

she may like the venetian snares cover of stairway to heaven

I do until the person I'm discussing it with starts with the pretentious stuff...when that starts I'm ghost.

Why would be talking about anything other than Marshall Mathers be relevant on here, this is the Wild and Trippy Marshall Mathers Forum right?

I like music discussion, but I always hate it when people pretend to like music that just isn't good (this is often the case with lots of Autechre tracks).

I rarely find an Autechre I can't enjoy, but after enough listens I find that I can easily enjoy it.

Perlence Subrange 6-36 is a little challenging though

i like discussing music with musicians, non-musicians eh not so good al

Discussing music with DJs is the most fun, because they tend to be enthusiasts instead of elitists.

I once showed my mom Vsnares - Eurocore MVP, she liked it.

  autopilot said:

Discussing music with DJs is the most fun, because they tend to be enthusiasts instead of elitists.

yes and no. the thing with DJs is once they're long enough in "the business", they measure the quality of a track by it's ability to blend well with other tracks they play.

funny thing i've noticed about all this music hype: i have some friends we used to hang out every day. crazy music worms is what we have become. you know the shit: seeking for weird and obscure sounds, talking about it, playing it in the basement, experimenting, etc. what happened now is... they have both become DJs but i don't come to their shows anymore. all they play now are chart smashers, floor fillers, "safe-sounding" records,... i miss that innovation, that difference,.. they have both conformed to the "standards" of a night club, and their music became dull and generic. i hate that.

i like talking about music with people who make music. i can talk for hours about sound engineering and techniques. it never gets me bored.

  chimera slot mom said:

  Braintree said:

I enjoy discussing music with synesthetes.

 

I'm a synaesthete and i agree.

I hate it because they're mostly lying.

lately i just say: "i listen to some weird shit!"

I feel like Rap i can discuss better than anything, just because I can talk to the person about the rhymes and the personality of the emcee. The production is also easy to talk about to if the person knows anything about it. But other than hip-hop it's really hard, at least for me.

  jim said:

  chimera slot mom said:

  Braintree said:

I enjoy discussing music with synesthetes.

 

I'm a synaesthete and i agree.

 

I hate it because they're mostly lying.

how do you know that most people are lying?

im sceptical with synaesthete's on watmm but one person who i definetely believe is babar. that guy is a fuck-up. an awesome one.

  AOOproductions said:

I feel like Rap i can discuss better than anything, just because I can talk to the person about the rhymes and the personality of the emcee. The production is also easy to talk about to if the person knows anything about it. But other than hip-hop it's really hard, at least for me.

i find myself talking about hip hop a lot lately... it's possibly my environment!

but i enjoy the conversations more when people are knowledgeable of old school and underground/independent hip hop. i don't continue the conversation when all they know is what's fed to them on the radio!

at my chiropractor, there's a nurse there that greets people when they walk in. she's about 24, puerto rican, great head of hair... anyway! she's listening to gangstar on her little radio and i'm like "you're listening to gangstar!"... then she lit up, her big brown eyes started to sparkle at me. then we talked about hip hop for a good 10 minutes before i started my therapy.

She's in my spank bank!

  pigster said:

me - i like electronic music.

person - oh, like the apex twins?

me - yeah sure.

lol

  messiaen said:

  jim said:

  chimera slot mom said:

  Braintree said:

I enjoy discussing music with synesthetes.

 

I'm a synaesthete and i agree.

 

I hate it because they're mostly lying.

 

how do you know that most people are lying?

 

im sceptical with synaesthete's on watmm but one person who i definetely believe is babar. that guy is a fuck-up. an awesome one.

 

 

Because, it's such a cool sounding gift that lots of people would like to have but, unlike perfect pitch, it's quite hard to disprove so a lot of people are quite comfortable asserting that they have it without any fear of contradiction. That and the keys/chords rarely if ever correspond to the same colours.

I do believe some people have it of course, although I was recently present at an interview with Tristan Murail who said that Messiaen didn't have it but merely "felt" colours with certain harmonies/ harmonic progressions. I'm not sure how true this is because it's widely documented that he was a synaesthete but one of Messiaen's own students surely must have at least some insight...

Anyway, that aside, i'm mainly talking about people i've met who obviously don't have it.

we're gonna talk more hip hop today... then i'm gonna go FAP!

My Nan is 85 this year.

  IRARI said:

i like discussing music with musicians, non-musicians eh not so good al

same but even a lot of musicians I talk to don't have the passion for trying to understand the methodology of artists, gear, the ability to express the details of how they feel about individual sections of a composition etc.

You don't have to be a good musician to listen to good music but to fully understand good music and fully converse about it I think you pretty much have to be an artist/talent musician yourself

i've found that i generally detest talking about music in public... nine times out of ten it results in me showcasing the vast encyclopedic knowledge i have about corners of the musical universe i've been a denizen of for quite a long time, and then the other person always wants to tell me about some new and exciting thing that i've got no idea about. i mean, if i had a dollar for every time someone tries to tell me about obscure act X that "blows aphex twin out of the water" i'd have enough money to fund my quest for world conquest.

early on i took people at their word and tried investigating these obscure act Xes and seeing what they're about and if, indeed, they blew aphex twin out of the water... but generally there wasn't much water involved, it'd be some friend of a friend of a friend of theirs (or perhaps even closer in the hierarchy of things) and it'd be boring atmospheric photekesque-overthought-to-every-breakbeat and enough's enough.

see if you want to go to technical terms about music i'll get lost, and for many that's an indictment of my closemindedness and my overall non-knowledge of what i'm talking about, but the truth is that i've got a really simplistic approach and i can describe the overall foundation/build of a song through my own colloquialisms and terminologies and in the end it's the same thing: semantics, and for what i've been a fan of for quite a long time i'm rock solid in my semantical pursuits and seeing as i got a pretty early start in life in terms of music zealotry, i'm really some sort of relatively-old curmudgeon who's rock-solid in his little world of musical whatever, and all other people are is some sort of encumberence-at-best who just want me to accept them as some sort of equal or more eclectic rendition of me because they know about obscure act X whereas i'm just an old never-left-the-house aphex twin wonk who worships at the pillar of 1997, when really alls i can say is 1997 is about as good as it'll ever get: prove me wrong.

  sinicalypse said:

i'm just an old never-left-the-house aphex twin wonk who worships at the pillar of 1997, when really alls i can say is 1997 is about as good as it'll ever get: prove me wrong.

2001 - Drukqs