Apple's iPad

I already pre ordered the iwheel

god apple slave sheep fools are tools

it can actually multi-task (play music and write notes at the same time, or browse the web).

if it's like the iPhone OS, if you want to switch between say, notes and maps, you'll have to hit the home button and then select maps. It's one extra step, and frankly it makes sense in a touch screen device, because how else are you gonna switch between apps?

On the iPad I guess you might want to have two apps like that open at the same time, but for me even on my 15" laptop it's a pain in the ass with such limited screen real estate.

Edit: one thing I wish they would retain from the desktop OS X is the ability to quick look at files in the finder while using an app. Although since there sin't really a finder per se, I guess that would be difficult.

i have to say i can't ever remember any product that caused so much hate and derision from people. it's just a product, right? i personally find barbie dream houses useless, but i'm sure 8-year-old girls would vehemently disagree.

it's just horses for courses, isn't it? i personally think the ipad would be great for reading papers / books / magazines on the go, not to mention for the potential for music sketchpads and the like. i'm not going to run out opening day and buy one, but i'll take a look, try it out, and see how it works.

there is something, in my experience, about apple hardware that is different to other manufacturers' attempts. whether it's UI, "feel" or whatever. when your hardware and software are manufactured by the same company, it tends to be optimised. yeah, i'd agree that they "lock down" the device in a lot of ways, but that's ok... i'm not looking to make an ipad be the hub of my studio, or my main computer. it's just a fun accessory, that's all. one might argue that it's awfully expensive for "just an accessory", but nobody is making anyone buy one.

i've actually been convincing my girlfriend to check one out - simply because iwork runs on it. when working, she presently has to walk around all over the place carrying a macbook pro while working with those apps. holding a laptop in one hand while doing anything worthwhile is a bit of a hassle, so this might be a great solution for that. or it might not.

i personally don't know anyone who goes out and buys something just because it's an apple product. maybe there are those people out there, but it's an intriguing device. i'm certainly not angry about it.

shush - no rational thought allowed in the howling void of public opinion.

i'd like to see what people start doing with the ipads in terms of a midi controller. I see a lot of potential for it to become a 'cheaper lemur' as a lot of people here are saying but is the Lemur really that cool or useful as a midi controller? I think i've seen one dude using one live doing some bouncing balls to make techno music and it was pretty cool.

jailbroken :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgHNayVtHkQ

Wow

:yawn:

i would kill for flash video not to destroy my cpu.

sweetness on the jailbreak though it can't be that much harder than jailbreaking the iPhone...

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Charlie Miller is an NSA-trained hacker with an elite reputation for tracking down dangerous security flaws in software. But his latest work could be subtitled "Apple Hacking For Dummies."

 

Later this month at the CanSecWest security conference in Vancouver, Miller plans to unveil research that he says has turned up 30 previously unknown critical security vulnerabilities in common software, 20 of which are in Apple's Preview application. In other words, he says he's found 20 different ways that a cybercriminal could hijack the machine of any Mac user tricked into opening an infected PDF--or given that Safari uses the same code as Preview to render PDFs, simply visiting an infected Web page.That's a record haul of security bugs even for Miller, a researcher for Baltimore-based Internet Security Evaluators who has become one of the world's most prominent Mac hackers after revealing methods for hacking the iPhone via its Safari browser in 2007 and via text message last summer.

 

But Miller says his goal with this latest research isn't to show off his skills, so much as to demonstrate just how easy it is to find hackable bugs in common software. The 36-year old researcher used a technique known as "dumb fuzzing" to perform a side-by-side comparison of four different software applications: Adobe Reader, Apple Preview, Microsoft PowerPoint and Oracle's OpenOffice. He wrote a simple Python script--just five lines of code--that randomly changes one bit of a PDF or PowerPoint file, plugs the file into the target application to see if it crashes, and then changes another bit, repeatedly tweaking and testing.

 

After running his fuzzer program on the applications for 3 weeks each, Miller found nearly a thousand unique ways to make the programs crash, and combed through those data to find which of those bugs allowed him to take control of the program. The results don't look good for Apple: 20 exploitable bugs in Preview compared with either 3 or 4 each in Reader, PowerPoint, and OpenOffice.

 

Miller says he was surprised that he was able to find any bugs at all with the simple method, let alone 20 in a single program. He says the high number of bugs shows that companies like Apple still aren't taking basic steps in their own security testing. “It’s shocking that Apple didn’t do this first,” Miller told us in an interview. “The only skill I’ve used here is patience.” Apple didn't respond to our request seeking comment.

 

Miller's research also offers one of the first head-to-head comparisons of Apple's security with that of similar software. Adobe, for instance, has increasingly been seen over the last year as a common entry point for malicious hackers. Verisign's security division iDefense tracked 45 new vulnerabilities exposed by hackers and security researchers in Adobe' s Reader software last year, triple the number from the year before. But Miller's research seems to show that Apple's security team may be far sloppier still.

 

Even so, Miller doesn't confine his criticism to Apple. "Microsoft, Apple, and Adobe all have huge security teams, and I'm one guy working out of my house," he says. "I shouldn't be able to find bugs like these, ever."

 

Aside from shaming the industry with his research, Miller has other plans for the CanSecWest conference. For the last two years, Miller has been a winner of the conference's Pwn2Own competition, which pits hackers against each other in a race to compromise a target computer and win cash prizes, along with the computer itself. In 2008, Miller won by hacking a Macbook Air in two minutes. This year's targets include two rounds, one of browsers and one of smartphones including the iPhone, along with BlackBerry, Android and Nokia devices.

 

Miller hasn't yet informed Apple about his new haul of bugs and he says he hasn't decided yet what to do with them. He may see try to determine which of the flaws would work in iPhone's version of Safari, and keep one or two in reserve for the Pwn2Own competition, along with ammunition to hack the iPad when it launches next month.

 

He's also considering keeping the details of his bugs secret and watching to see how long it takes the software vendors to patch them after his Vancouver talk. While that would leave users vulnerable to the secret vulnerabilities he's found, Miller says it could also help reveal more about just what software companies are doing--or not doing--to patch their products' flaws.

 

"The moral of the story is that if Apple wants to keep its products secure, it needs to be doing what I'm doing," says Miller. Until then, it seems, he'll just have to keep hacking their products for them.

one of the nice things about apples is how little you have to worry about malware, but if Ipads really take off and they become as popular as netbooks or laptops i fear that aspect of apple will change

  On 4/5/2010 at 4:50 AM, Awepittance said:

one of the nice things about apples is how little you have to worry about malware, but if Ipads really take off and they become as popular as netbooks or laptops i fear that aspect of apple will change

it is a false security, it's security through a combination of obscurity and horrible DRM.

in a world full of zombies, if i live with a walled garden with apples inside and BACON outside, i can enjoy all the apples i want with the reassurance that they're safe.

if i scale the wall, i can have apples or bacon, but no guarantee that the bacon won't be full of super AIDS bar my own common sense.

like compuserve and AOL before they both realised the first option was completely fucking retarded, apple want you in a walled garden.

i'd much rather use a device that trusts i know the difference between the most luscious apples known to man and regular apples...

plus BACON; and if i'm not completely retarded, i can tell the difference between delicious bacon and bacon rife with super AIDS.

thanks, apple. thapple.

  On 4/4/2010 at 7:15 PM, maus said:

i personally don't know anyone who goes out and buys something just because it's an apple product. maybe there are those people out there

oh there's plenty and I've met quite a few hipster in my city that are blindly loyal to apple. me and my friend laughed sooo fucking hard when we showed the onion video for the iwheel and his girlfriend goes "o my god I gotta have that" even after to goes over all the details of how stupid a joke it was, she literally only wanted it because its made by apple no matter illogically ricky retardo or confining

  On 4/5/2010 at 5:20 AM, kaini said:

  On 4/5/2010 at 4:50 AM, Awepittance said:

one of the nice things about apples is how little you have to worry about malware, but if Ipads really take off and they become as popular as netbooks or laptops i fear that aspect of apple will change

 

it is a false security, it's security through a combination of obscurity and horrible DRM.

 

 

Kaini, I respect you tremendously, but that's not really true.

OS X is UNIX. UNIX is hardly obscure. There is an aspect of security through obscurity simply because Apple doesn't have the market share. Linux has even less market share than Apple in the desktop world, hence no point in attacking it. If Linux had the same market share as Windows, guaranteed there would be crackers making worms/viruses/botnets what have you out of Linux machines. Linux is not more secure than OS X. Out of the box, both are more secure than Vista or XP (I have no experience with Windows 7, but it's apparently improved a lot of things).

As for DRM - I'm not really sure what media files have to do with the situation?

the iPad will not be subject to the same security risks browsing simply because the OS is quite different from OS X (despite being based on the same BSD Unix). You never run as root or even SU on the iPad, so the userland is more secure. there is no finder or preview in the iPad, so those attack vectors are gone. I'll take Apple's "walled garden" on the iPad because it does ensure a very safe working environment (not that I generally worry about things, as I'm fairly savvy about how to stay safe) for the average user. You know, your mom, who sends you that e-mail with the cute emoticon exe attached (that installs that awesome keylogger). Or your uncle, who sends you a link to a dirty website (with popunders that infect your machine with whatever virus is making the rounds for internet explorer).

Is Apple perfect on security? of course not, the only perfectly safe machine is one encased in concrete and sent to the bottom of the ocean floor with no wires connected to it and no ports open (there's got to be a nautical joke in there somewhere) through wifi/bluetooth/whatever other wireless tech you want to include. Apple does a pretty decent job though.

so basically, for the price of an actual korg electribe you can buy an ipad. this ipad thing is going to be ridiculously awesome. especially when it finally matures (let's say when multitasking is being made possible for 3rd party apps... which will most likely be the case when the new iphone os is released later this year)

Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning web off of the iPad screen? looking at porn on the iPad makes me cum stupid hard.

How to use the iPad as an Ableton Live controller.

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For everybody clamoring for a Linux tablet, a quick preview of the JooJoo

http://www.osnews.com/story/23099/Joo_Joo_Ships_First_Impressions_Hands-on

an android tablet should be perfect. there are like five thousand of them coming up this year.

I think i'll just stick with my macbook and ipod classic...

PZ

wanker

carrying around my MacBookpro to classes all the time is pretty annoying. This and a bluetooth keyboard will be a godsend.

  On 4/5/2010 at 5:20 AM, kaini said:

in a world full of zombies, if i live with a walled garden with apples inside and BACON outside, i can enjoy all the apples i want with the reassurance that they're safe.

if i scale the wall, i can have apples or bacon, but no guarantee that the bacon won't be full of super AIDS bar my own common sense.

i am a super huge fan of this analogy

  On 4/5/2010 at 5:20 AM, kaini said:

thanks, apple. thapple.

where as i am a super fan of this.

THIS IS WHATI THINK OF YOUR PRECIOUS iPAD@!@!@)JK1

  On 4/6/2010 at 2:16 AM, A/D said:

  On 4/5/2010 at 5:20 AM, kaini said:

in a world full of zombies, if i live with a walled garden with apples inside and BACON outside, i can enjoy all the apples i want with the reassurance that they're safe.

if i scale the wall, i can have apples or bacon, but no guarantee that the bacon won't be full of super AIDS bar my own common sense.

 

i am a super huge fan of this analogy

i kinda forgot about the zombies