What's with black metal ?

  On 4/8/2010 at 1:53 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Wolves In The Throne Room - Two Hunters is purty epic for sure, I see what the hype is about, the beautiful sections are almost too good though, when it goes into straight thinly produced death metal from the cinematic landscape parts it kinda sounds uneven cause the chill shit sounds so full and perfect. either way epic shit, very inspiring

If you like that then definitely check out Weakling's album Dead as Dreams

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avril lavigne???

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avril lavigne???

he's just a boy, I'm just a girl, can I make it aaany more ooobvious?

  On 4/8/2010 at 1:37 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 4/8/2010 at 12:46 AM, Dan C said:

  On 4/7/2010 at 11:52 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

is there any black/death metal bands who don't have a dragon in the leading voice???

 

Try Primordial.

i tried rush and it felt better

Oh dear.

  On 4/8/2010 at 2:30 PM, Richy said:

  On 4/8/2010 at 1:53 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Wolves In The Throne Room - Two Hunters is purty epic for sure, I see what the hype is about, the beautiful sections are almost too good though, when it goes into straight thinly produced death metal from the cinematic landscape parts it kinda sounds uneven cause the chill shit sounds so full and perfect. either way epic shit, very inspiring

If you like that then definitely check out Weakling's album Dead as Dreams

 

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avril lavigne???

 

yep that's her, avril lavigne!!! i saw her on mtv yesterday...

yeah Wolves in the throne room are fantastic. They're touring with Earth (!) on the West coast.

i also like Velvet Cacoon, not sure if they fit with the BM genre...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTPNUS_lHME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqqU9b0MDys

VC's Genevieve is fantastic, yeah.

All this talk of Cascadian black metal maybe me wonder...what would that New Moon (Twilight) film be like if it was scored with just BM tracks? I bet someone could throw together a good trailer remix anyway.

thought this was relevant, Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World - Death Metal Version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLkOYHYQ2tc

  On 4/9/2010 at 10:09 AM, chax said:

thought this was relevant, Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World - Death Metal Version

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLkOYHYQ2tc

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  On 4/9/2010 at 10:09 AM, chax said:

thought this was relevant, Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World - Death Metal Version

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLkOYHYQ2tc

1st song i like in this thread, foreal

  On 4/9/2010 at 2:01 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 4/9/2010 at 10:09 AM, chax said:

thought this was relevant, Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World - Death Metal Version

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLkOYHYQ2tc

1st song i like in this thread, foreal

Haha, I love how fitting "the dark sacred night" line became

  On 12/30/2009 at 1:53 AM, yek said:

are the bands really as hardcore as some of the imagery they put out or is it kind of tongue and cheek?

I don't know. What I can say is, I'm really sorry, but it's true, the most braindead people in our A-level class (don't know the right term, here it's "Abitur", classes 11-13) were Heavy Metal fans.

Maybe heavy metal is their way to handle their gayness.

wolves in the throne room are pushing BM in the same way that aphex was pushing techno a while back.

& i'm hardly a metal fan (rather a sibelius fan indeed...)

aphex was really pushing techno... hehe

i can't get enough of the new(ish) Twilight album

also, Panopticon!!!

Haven't gotten fully into the Twilight album yet. Will work on it every now and then.

On record Wolves In the Throne Room sound very atmospheric, eerie and overall fantastic. I saw them live in the summer of '09 and besides the ambiance playing before they entered the stage, it all seemed like a pure-black metal concert. Badass, but not really what I expected.

I got Two Hunters on vinyl though, amazing record.

  On 7/29/2010 at 2:22 PM, psn said:

Haven't gotten fully into the Twilight album yet. Will work on it every now and then.

i'm talking about the new one, "Monument To Time End". it's totally different to the s/t and much, much better imo.

this

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/your-band-sucks/metal.php

is spot on

tru black metal

Bonz Xylophone - Baby Dragon.mp3Fetching info...

black metal in a nutshell is the end result of the satanic paranoia in the 80's regarding heavy metal music/satanic cults which did not exist and an imaginary satanic movement that was coming for your children.

people in the states for the most part laughed that shit off and were down to party. people in norway i guess didn't get the humor so much, and being into metal found it their sacred duty to launch an actual war against christianity, hence the church burnings which then the media had a field day with which in turn made a relatively tiny regional "black metal" revival (venom/celtic frost/bathory/etc.=1st wave, mayhem/burzum/emperor/darkthrone=2nd wave) into a huge international "scene" which they were (at least supposedly) totally opposed to as one of black metals main purposes was to rebel from what they percieved as death metal becoming popular and mainstream (bands like morbid angel were signed to major labels at the time).

of course after all the headline grabbing drama took place (church burnings, deads suicide, faust killing a gay man at the olympics, varg killing euronymous and making sure to stab him more times than faust stabbed his victim, etc.) they got all the "unwanted" attention and black metal became the next big thing eclipsing death metal for a time and every cornball in scandinavia had a slick well produced corpsepainted band to cash in with.

of course after 20 some odd years of metal writing about the virtues of satan, satanism kind of lost the "edge" most of these bands needed to seem "extreme" so a large portion of them turned to national socialism and morphed the focus from simply hating christianity to hating christianity because A: it's a jewish religion and B: it was forced upon their decent aryan odin loving ancestors, and a more nazi centric odin worshipping lets return to 1000+ years ago only with electric guitars and triggered blastbeats movement began which is really kind of the last relic of black metal. the more enthusiastic about this are in the "NSBM" scene (national socialist black metal). most of these bands are fucking horrible too.

many people from the states try to emulate black metal but it really is a quintessentially norweigan thing, and dudes from kentucky or california inherantly do not come across in any sort of authentic original matter but rather sound either cheesy or a complete direct ripoff of an established norweigan black metal band. it's something americans are best off to leave alone in my opinon.

so to answer the original question yes a handful of them were serious as a heart attack about all of this stuff, while the vast majority like any other movement were full of shit and looking to cash in on a trend or be part of something that they didn't warrant being part of.

  On 7/29/2010 at 2:59 PM, aeser said:

many people from the states try to emulate black metal but it really is a quintessentially norweigan thing, and dudes from kentucky or california inherantly do not come across in any sort of authentic original matter but rather sound either cheesy or a complete direct ripoff of an established norweigan black metal band. it's something americans are best off to leave alone in my opinon.

BUT! there are some true gems. for instance, Panopticon is from kentucky :)

sure, the 99% scene is ridiculous and gimmicky. but a few outstanding acts come from the american west-coast.

the way i see the current situation is, scandinavian bands just can't get over the second/third wave values and aesthetic.

USA/france/slavic countries is where it's at atm.

  On 7/29/2010 at 2:33 PM, kokoon said:

  On 7/29/2010 at 2:22 PM, psn said:

Haven't gotten fully into the Twilight album yet. Will work on it every now and then.

i'm talking about the new one, "Monument To Time End". it's totally different to the s/t and much, much better imo.

Yes, yes. The new one is a lot slicker, but I'm unsure if I like it better than the first.

As has been said sure the imagery is a bit cheesy (some cases extremely cheesy) but these days it is kind of a tounge and cheek thing, most of the bands aren't serious about their imagery, it's just a tradition they have to incorporate the "kvlt" look. I'm not real into Black Metal but there are a few bands I like...

Behemoth, Enslaved, Hiems, IXXI, Nachtmystium, Wolves In The Throne Room... also like Alcest and Amesouers but I guess those two are more Blackened Shoegaze than straight up Black Metal... I also listened to that live Mayhem bootleg with the infamous cover, it was alright stuff recording quality was pretty shitty though.