Autechre Autechre - Oversteps (WARP210) [The MegaThread]

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:05 AM, Jacck said:

 

 

Most of it is utter wank.

go fuck urself

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:05 AM, xox said:

troon thank you for that St. Thomas Aquinas quotation!

 

 

your very welcome.

to know the present and the future, first we must accurately understand the past.

I don't think an artists amount of effort should be defined by how much work was done by manual input or automatic choices made by a computer. All that matters in the end is how its going to effect you on a base level

also, word up awepittance.

i just don't want people to mistake my over analysis for any sort of denigration of their use of randomization in music

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:13 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:05 AM, Jacck said:

 

 

Most of it is utter wank.

 

go fuck urself

Quaristice is f%^@##@ brilliant.

....and the cover art it untouchable.

fact.

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:13 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:05 AM, Jacck said:

 

 

Most of it is utter wank.

 

go fuck urself

It's not that I don't respect your opinion, sir. I just found most of Quaristice (with the main exceptions of Altibzz and some of the other ambient numbers) immensely half-baked and underwhelming. I thought tracks like The Plc chenc9 would eventually grow on me, but they just haven't... to me, the album is merely a sketchbook. So many tracks just seem to reflect a single undeveloped idea that materialised out of boredom on a long Saturday afternoon.

  On 2/10/2010 at 8:23 PM, six said:

I think it's boring alone and boring AND a horrible fit for the music when paired with the actual album.

I actually like the cover, but only the version on the outer shell of the vinyl release without the chopped off oversized text.

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:18 AM, troon said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:13 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:05 AM, Jacck said:

 

 

Most of it is utter wank.

 

go fuck urself

 

Quaristice is f%^@##@ brilliant.

 

....and the cover art it untouchable.

 

fact.

x2 I remember I could barely function waiting for that thing in the mail. When it finally came, I took a massive dump

re. jack

i'd agree. i prefer oversteps. looser algorithmic stuff does it for me- great to have them back on my fav turf. hope the live shows are more like the 2001 confield tour flavour than elektron loops.

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:18 AM, troon said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:13 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:05 AM, Jacck said:

 

 

Most of it is utter wank.

 

go fuck urself

 

Quaristice is f%^@##@ brilliant.

 

....and the cover art it untouchable.

 

fact.

You're really using fonts with shit kerning as the crux of your argument as to why the music is brillant? LOL.

i think the whole album is brilliant as well as 'versions' and 'quadrange versions'.

i have 2 words for Quaristice haters:

Steels

Tankakern

quaristice is a fantastic recording

  On 2/11/2010 at 1:43 AM, troon said:

i think the whole album is brilliant as well as 'versions' and 'quadrange versions'.

 

i have 2 words for Quaristice haters:

 

Steels

Tankakern

Also:

Simmm

WNSN

I find Quaristice to be moistly pretty great. moistly.

Oversteps is moistly dry

  On 2/11/2010 at 2:27 AM, karmakramer said:

Oversteps is moistly dry

To be honest, it's really grown on me. I think the direction they've gone in is totally weird, but pretty wonderful. Even if I prefer the sound design in stuff like Draft or Confield, they've done that already - granted, I wouldn't want any more albums like Overtsteps, but it's a beautiful oddity to have in light of all else they've done. I didn't force myself to like it - I'm just ignoring the moments that piss me off ( like known(1) ) and enjoying the rest.

known 1 aside, i like this album. a good bit.

after draft i sorta fell off the wagon...untilted was cool but i only listened to it a handful of times, quaristice to me was horrible...it did sound like sketches, i didnt get any prolonged involvement or feel for the development of a track, which to me is why i listened to autechre in the first place.

i think i shall order this in vinyl....is there a US distro?

what makes people feel like the songs on oversteps are not 'sketchy' but tracks on quaristice are? is it the amount of actual notes taking place ? i just want someone to enlighten me because frankly both of the albums have a very sketchish /immediate feel to them just in different ways.

  On 2/11/2010 at 2:57 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

known 1 aside, i like this album. a good bit.

 

after draft i sorta fell off the wagon...untilted was cool but i only listened to it a handful of times, quaristice to me was horrible...it did sound like sketches, i didnt get any prolonged involvement or feel for the development of a track, which to me is why i listened to autechre in the first place.

 

i think i shall order this in vinyl....is there a US distro?

i feel the same way

if you mean the track selection and the way each tracks sounds significantly different from each other, that makes sense. the flow of Oversteps from track to track seems to have a very encapsulated and specific flow

but if you mean the individual tracks on Oversteps build up and develop a lot. i'm not hearing very much build up and disassembling on Oversteps, maybe im missing something. Most of the transitions seem to almost 'burst' into the mix and the album has almost an anti ambient quality to me where things seem very immediate and brisk. There are a lot of atmospheric more silent sections on this album but they don't really build up or slowly develop into something more dense like the stuff on for example Amber.

the feeling this album is giving me right now is one of extreme inhuman misery and depression

listening to this gives me the impression of seeing the underneath of everything, like every moment of existence is intensely picked apart. i might say this is easily, easily their most emotional album yet

what has been up with vamos?

pretty much absolutely nothing other than taking way too many drugs, dropping out of school, and making music obsessively - sickeningly

awesome avatar there

  On 2/11/2010 at 3:25 AM, Awepittance said:

if you mean the track selection and the way each tracks sounds significantly different from each other, that makes sense. the flow of Oversteps from track to track seems to have a very encapsulated and specific flow

 

but if you mean the individual tracks on Oversteps build up and develop a lot. i'm not hearing very much build up and disassembling on Oversteps, maybe im missing something. Most of the transitions seem to almost 'burst' into the mix and the album has almost an anti ambient quality to me where things seem very immediate and brisk. There are a lot of atmospheric more silent sections on this album but they don't really build up or slowly develop into something more dense like the stuff on for example Amber.

Okay, now I think we're getting somewhere here...

Cohesion. Its that simple. The reason why *I* for one appreciate this album is because one has to reflect on this album cohesively. Robbie, you remember when Queersauce came out and what my reaction was... about how Warp post-scripted their stance on the album, making these shortened bursts of ideas sound like some grand revelation for the band, and subsequently us as listeners. Remember how I said that if Autechre was "brilliant" or "hard core," instead of releasing 20+ songs on one album, they would release one album that was ONE song? IMHO, Oversteps is the closest we've gotten across an entire album, to it being a single body of work. For that alone, I appreciate this on another level. Given that, I cant help but look at this m4a file in a different light.

Is it less beats? Sure. Does it cast less of a, dare I say, typical Autechre feel? Absolutely not. It actually is the opposite. To me, this album summarizes the disorienting mood at the heart of most of their songs, while cutting out the stuff that makes them "cool" and progressive. To that, I have to give them TONS of credit. They've retained their signature by evacuating their penmanship.

  On 2/11/2010 at 4:38 AM, gl0tch said:

  On 2/11/2010 at 3:25 AM, Awepittance said:

if you mean the track selection and the way each tracks sounds significantly different from each other, that makes sense. the flow of Oversteps from track to track seems to have a very encapsulated and specific flow

 

but if you mean the individual tracks on Oversteps build up and develop a lot. i'm not hearing very much build up and disassembling on Oversteps, maybe im missing something. Most of the transitions seem to almost 'burst' into the mix and the album has almost an anti ambient quality to me where things seem very immediate and brisk. There are a lot of atmospheric more silent sections on this album but they don't really build up or slowly develop into something more dense like the stuff on for example Amber.

 

Okay, now I think we're getting somewhere here...

 

Cohesion. Its that simple. The reason why *I* for one appreciate this album is because one has to reflect on this album cohesively. Robbie, you remember when Queersauce came out and what my reaction was... about how Warp post-scripted their stance on the album, making these shortened bursts of ideas sound like some grand revelation for the band, and subsequently us as listeners. Remember how I said that if Autechre was "brilliant" or "hard core," instead of releasing 20+ songs on one album, they would release one album that was ONE song? IMHO, Oversteps is the closest we've gotten across an entire album, to it being a single body of work. For that alone, I appreciate this on another level. Given that, I cant help but look at this m4a file in a different light.

 

Is it less beats? Sure. Does it cast less of a, dare I say, typical Autechre feel? Absolutely not. It actually is the opposite. To me, this album summarizes the disorienting mood at the heart of most of their songs, while cutting out the stuff that makes them "cool" and progressive. To that, I have to give them TONS of credit. They've retained their signature by evacuating their penmanship.

well said. couldn't say it better myself.

i guess i prefer oversteps due to its somewhat thematic presence...

IMHO quaristice is like listening to drops of water, whereas untilted, draft, confield, etc are more like rivers or puddles