a step backwards

LOL

I like Perlence Subrange 6-36, but only because I'm scared that if I don't like it Autechre might come round my house and kill my family with shotguns for not being a TRUE ae fan. Play him out keyboard cat

  On 1/18/2010 at 9:52 AM, ieafs said:

but you said the same thing when the track first came out...

Yeah at first. Only took me 2-3 listens for it to sink in

  On 1/18/2010 at 4:23 AM, thehauntingsoul said:

  On 1/18/2010 at 2:47 AM, MadnessR said:

  On 1/17/2010 at 2:15 PM, pigster said:

listening to it now and my god it's amazing. some of the stuff going on is so subtle. i never heard any of this stuff before but learned to appreciate the extended nothingness of it. but it's so much more than just nothingness. much love!

Whatever. If anyone on this board released a track that sounded anything like this, everyone would hate it. Accept that this is a shit track... Not only that but a major disappointment to everyone who actually purchased this turd...

Let's ALL hope the new album is WAY better than this...

Stop making grand sweeping statements thinking you represent the collective Autechre fans. Your arguments are rigid and steep and leave no room for any sort of anomalies or exceptions to your claim.

 

"Accept that this is a shit track." - Not only is this just inherently retarded, but unless you are the omnipotent all seeing mind, you have absolutely no authority to make normative claims about the track. To say that you hated it, or to critique it in specific detail is completely acceptable, but to outright try to tag it as a shit track is brazen to say the least. Not only that but you also exercise your authority in trying to otherwise convince people who already have made up their mind that it is a good track.

 

"Not only that but a major disappointment to everyone(?) who actually purchased this turd..." - This last statement totally nullifies any sort of credibility you would have (not that you had any to begin with). Me and Pigster both find it to be a quality track, and there have been threads about it before where many members have expressed their satisfaction with this track. If I remember correctly, I think the split was almost 50/50 between people loving it and people hating it.

 

My advice to you:

 

1: Stop trying to generalize the entire population of Ae fans according to your specific tastes

2: If you had worded your post differently it would have been totally valid but your exaggeration and outlandish claims fucked it up for you

3: Try and be more open minded and don't expect Ae to sound one way or another - YOU are the only one who is losing when you set expectations for their sound

4: Just generally stop being such a prick

5: Read the rules

 

 

edit: and that goes for the rest of you who like to make sweeping claims such as "this track is utter shit" and "everyone hates this" etc etc.

This track is utter shit.

Everyone hates this.

An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site.

You like the track. Fine. I don't. That too is fine. It is also ok for me to come to this forum to discuss my opinion of this track. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. My original post was this:

Has anyone here actually listened to this whole thing with headphones on? (I haven't)

What if the new album was this spread out over 14 tracks?

Now, what if it was?

That, in my opinion, would suck.

Agree, disagree, but don't tell me what I should or shouldn't be posting!

  On 1/14/2010 at 12:15 PM, Obel said:

Better off just deleting the topic.

I find this really soothing to study to.

I've listened to this track several times all the way through.

i don't find anything about the loop or sounds very interesting. or, interesting enough to be spread over an hour.

from my own listening experiences, these sorts of tracks need sounds that are evolving and nice to listen to.

i reckon that if they were to make more long (30+ min) tracks that were separate from quaristice material, they would be more interesting.

  On 1/18/2010 at 10:22 PM, MadnessR said:

An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site.

 

You like the track. Fine. I don't. That too is fine. It is also ok for me to come to this forum to discuss my opinion of this track. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. My original post was this:

 

Has anyone here actually listened to this whole thing with headphones on? (I haven't)

What if the new album was this spread out over 14 tracks?

 

Now, what if it was?

That, in my opinion, would suck.

Agree, disagree, but don't tell me what I should or shouldn't be posting!

... rules?

ok, ok, let's keep to the OP.

if this was the new album, spread over 14 tracks, i would swiftly take the vinyl off the platter while switching to my second turntable (which is always on and has anvl vapours spinning on it at all times), open up the secret compartment on side B of OVERSTEP and take out the pair of unwashed denims that is surreptitiously stored in the limited edition copies (nos. 1-2). after washing with soaps and rituals i would cloak my legs in said denims and annoint my thus enclothed appendices with oils of vermillion and stoicism. taking myself upon my newly initiated parts i would forthwith commence myself unto the record shop, OVERSTOPS in hand, and demand they refund my money that i paid and, upon completion of our transaction, i would thank them for their services and indicate the extent to which i found our exchange to be generally agreeable. then, and only then, would i walk out, turn back in, purchase a NEW copy of OVERSTEEP, prance home, place the music on the new dusted record player, switch from anvynil vapr, take off the denims, light them on fire with matches, put on sweatpants, allow the music to encourage a mighty and unignorable boner, and as the final seconds of the record fade into silence, burst majestically through my drywall bed-clothes like a magnificent Spartan.

i don't mind it being that long. i like ambient music plenty. but maybe being only 10 mins would make more sense

I just noticed that at 57:20 there is a really cool reverse/delayed melody going on but you have to crank the volume to hear it

  On 1/19/2010 at 6:25 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

I just noticed that at 57:20 there is a really cool reverse/delayed melody going on but you have to crank the volume to hear it

Your rebuttal of MadnessR is pretty rich coming from a guy who posted this utter mess of an argument:

  thehauntingsoul said:

 

Seriously, I've said this before and I'll say this again, being the hardcore Ae fan that I am: If you ever hear an ae track you don't like, you're just not listening the right way, or you haven't tried hard enough to figure it out. If you disagree, post your logical and coherent counter argument and I am confident that my logical concept of Ae will allow me to defeat any arguments you may have to the contrary.

 

So, what is your 'logical concept' of Autechre?

Your circularity here is akin to the belief that The Bible is word of God because it says it is. 'Why are all Autechre tracks good? Because you can figure them all out. Why can you figure them all out? Because they're good (or more specifically, because there is always some appealing quality to be figured out.).'

Your pretentiousness is obviously clouding your judgement. Take it down a notch.

  On 1/19/2010 at 7:11 PM, Jacck said:

  On 1/19/2010 at 6:25 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

I just noticed that at 57:20 there is a really cool reverse/delayed melody going on but you have to crank the volume to hear it

 

Your rebuttal of MadnessR is pretty rich coming from a guy who posted this utter mess of an argument:

 

  thehauntingsoul said:

 

Seriously, I've said this before and I'll say this again, being the hardcore Ae fan that I am: If you ever hear an ae track you don't like, you're just not listening the right way, or you haven't tried hard enough to figure it out. If you disagree, post your logical and coherent counter argument and I am confident that my logical concept of Ae will allow me to defeat any arguments you may have to the contrary.

 

 

So, what is your 'logical concept' of Autechre?

 

Your circularity here is akin to the belief that The Bible is word of God because it says it is. 'Why are all Autechre tracks good? Because you can figure them all out. Why can you figure them all out? Because they're good (or more specifically, because there is always some appealing quality to be figured out.).'

 

Your pretentiousness is obviously clouding your judgement. Take it down a notch.

I'm basically saying that when you (meaning anyone, not just you) say something is 'good' or 'bad' but you phrase it like it's a statement of fact, you're misleading the truth. Nobody has the right to put labels like good or bad on music. I'll admit my love for Ae may cloud my judgement and bias me towards supporting mainly Ae with this philosophy but it's true of all art. If at least one person likes it, then there is some good to be found. Even if nobody likes it, it still doesn't necessarily mean there isn't good that could be found in it by someone at a later point in time.

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rules

Alright I feel like I've been wrong about one major thing: for some reason I've been assuming that when people state their opinions on music without illicitly stating that it is their opinion, that they are trying to label an album as ultimately their opinion.

This is stupid and I'm stupid for falling into that train of thought.

That being said, I will still stand up when people say stuff like "everyone thinks its crap"

Too late buddy, now whenever you say you don't like something everyone's going to tell you you haven't listened to it enough or you don't get it.

THE REAL POINT HERE IS THAT THE SONG IS TOO FUCKING LONG

yes, someone should work on a 10 mins version

Autechre's meditation theme song.

The whole point of this track is that it's so long. If it wasn't this long it wouldn't really be achieving what it set out to do. Not only that but there is an insane amount of depth to this track that takes a multitude of listens to pick out just like any other Ae track. If it weren't an hour long then it would lose alot of its magic.

Feel free to disagree but I wouldn't have had this track any other way.

  On 1/23/2010 at 4:08 PM, Super lurker ultra V12 said:

yes, someone should work on a 10 mins version

done and done

I give you

Perlence Subrange 6-6.773768897608

I'll stick to the hour long one