Autechre Autechre's current gear for Oversteps/etc

for you guys who use Reaktor, is it a good idea to learn all the nuts and bolts of the program or is it enough to just use the ensembles? is it re-inventing the wheel to learn it all, or does it help make more interesting productions?

Even if you know nothing about synth architecture and how to build one, Reaktor is worth buying simply for the included synthesizers. I wouldn't say it's reinventing the wheel to learn how each component works, but there is definitely a learning curve if you want to start creating your own devices. There are a lot of great macros you can employ so that you do not have to build everything from scratch, but there's still a lot of work to be done to create anything that rivals the pre-built synths.

That $79 deal was the deal of the year for soft synths, if you ask me. In fact, I would recommend that everyone who uses them to take advantage of the great shit that comes with that program.

reaktor lets me treat the studio like a modular. fuck its preset ensembles

I just want a Nord Modular G2 plugin

  On 2/18/2010 at 7:01 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

hmm the only thing with reaktor is that some things just get plain annoying, like how you can't put two different outputs into the same input, you have to use a + object instead. also the combining voices thing just gets irritating, like when you plug something into something else and the little red x appears over the input and suddenly nothing works. maybe my version is just old, but i've never had annoying problems like that in max.

software always has limits

deal with limits?

take the time to code your own?

god fuckin damn rite

  On 2/18/2010 at 3:00 AM, kaini said:

it's starting to look more reaktor-ish every release

i really wish there was a way to group machine chains into 'containers', for example have infector -> reverb -> eq -> phaser appear as one block, and all instrument and effect parameters can be controlled through the one window/pattern. it would make my convoluted track setups a bit easier to handle!

You, erm go into the sequencer tab

But yeah there's three main pages used in Buzz - Machine View which is the screen shot on the previous page where you connect all your sound generators and effects together in a chain. Pattern View where you create patterns for the generators and effects, and sequence view where you stick all the patterns together. Everything here has been done 100% using Buzz from start to finish - http://ilovecubus.co.uk/v2/downloads (the only thing not Buzz are the seguing between the tracks - we used to used Cool Edit for that but now Reaper)

anybody here actually want to mention other possible Oversteps software/hardware ?

most people i know who use max/msp a lot don't make very much actual music, most people i know who use reaktor are very productive. I think it's honestly hard to find a max/msp master who is also a great composer/music maker. When they exist they are pretty impressive (autechre, kit klayton, john wiesse)

you have recommended releases for kit clayton and john wiese?

i do but private msg me, i really do seriously want to discuss Autechre's equipment on this album haha

with max4live my above comments will probably not be applicable, but just based on the way people use Reaktor i think it stands now. Most Reaktor users just load prebuilt ensembles, id say only 30% or lower tweak the insides of these ensembles, and probably only 10% have made an ensemble from scratch. Max/msp id say 90% of it's users spend a lot of time making things from scratch

When the album comes out, and I listen... Then ill make guesses as to what they use. Until then, don't even want to think about ae!

  On 2/17/2010 at 1:55 AM, Awepittance said:

 

Here are things i recognize or think that i recognize on this album (all software)

 

Logic Audio's plugin ' Sculpture' specifcally the preset 'marble on a glass table' on Krylon

Ableton Live's Tension

Ableton Live's Collider

Reaktor patch Metallo

Reaktpr patch Steampipe

Tassman

 

  On 2/18/2010 at 9:49 PM, Awepittance said:

anybody here actually want to mention other possible Oversteps software/hardware ?

 

If you're talking about the physically modeled type sounds, you could add loads of stuff to that list, starting with the Korg Prophecy. For some reason, I can't imagine Autechre using Tassman, but I suppose if they did, they could be using AAS String Studio too.

they did actually say in an interview around Untilted that they loved using Tassman, its one of the only physical modeling things i know they've talked about using before. Ill try to find the interview if i still have it.

Is String studio just like a tassman devoted to string type sounds? i've never bothered trying it. Never heard a KorgProphecy either, is that like the Korg Oasys? i've only heard the Oasys talked about on physical modeling websites. There is the Yamaha VL1 also but i dont think it sounds like what's being used on oversteps, a lot of these physical modeling things have a very distinct unique sound from eachother.

The prophecy was Korg's first physical modelling synth(I think), though most people saw it as a VA. Monophonic and monotimbral, had a reputation as being a pain in the arse to program. I'm old enough to remember when it first came out in the mid 90s, it was way overhyped, and then seen as a bit of a disappointment when the nord turned up. Korg Z1 is sort of a polyphonic prophecy. I think it was JSwift that used to wax lyrical about its physical modelling on here. I've seen a prophecy on an autechre kit list, wouldn't surprise me if they'd got a Z1 too.

Yes, string studio is basically tassman devoted to string modelling stuff. Not sure if there's anything you could do in stringstudio that you couldn't do in tassman, but, well like all the physical modelling stuff, it can be pushed to produce sounds beyond its intended palette.

  On 2/18/2010 at 8:18 AM, modey said:

  On 2/18/2010 at 3:00 AM, kaini said:

it's starting to look more reaktor-ish every release

i really wish there was a way to group machine chains into 'containers', for example have infector -> reverb -> eq -> phaser appear as one block, and all instrument and effect parameters can be controlled through the one window/pattern. it would make my convoluted track setups a bit easier to handle!

iirc an older version had DMO plugin support, which allowed you to do exactly sorta that

hmmm yeah http://www.buzzmachines.com/newscomments.php?newid=90&id=90

  On 2/18/2010 at 5:33 AM, hahathhat said:

reaktor lets me treat the studio like a modular. fuck its preset ensembles

YA. love that. i use reaktor whenever i don't need supreme control and would rather not start from the ground up (supercollider/max).

I heard the voices of the apocalypse choir samples in there.

Having now heard this album... Yes... So many physical modeling synths... I was surprised, that I could actually recognize the timbres!

i remember in the mid 90's when I learned how to multiply.

I hear a machinedrum and possibly a Nord G2, there's also lots of FM sounds there too which could be an FS1R or G2

obviously Max msp is in there too but I've only just downloaded the demo