Autechre Why are they so intent on demystifying themselves?

yeah, you can definitely hear a massive amount of compression, which is needed. like how you have a dry track with no reverb in the 'front', with other tracks reverberated to create the illusion of space. but, the amount of space on these tracks is huge! and yet, somehow, it still works.

Exactly.

That whole mixing horizontally thing probably has a lot to do with the "Mute other part when this part is triggered" function on the Machinedrum.

  On 3/17/2010 at 3:45 PM, futureimage said:

That whole mixing horizontally thing probably has a lot to do with the "Mute other part when this part is triggered" function on the Machinedrum.

Haha, damn straight.

Far as I can see, I said something articulate and which made sense to people, and therefore plainly was not mystifying anything. If you didn't get it, we could say at least it was mystifying for you, but you obviously did too, or you wouldn't have been moved to thrash about. It just seems your bar is set low and you don't like people saying anything above it, which sends you ranting on about weird pedestals and homosexuality, but I don't come to a forum like this to get the same conversation I can get from drunks at the pub.

No, you come to pull shit out your ass and be all misty-eyed while doing so. But again, my bad, this is a subforum, i don't know what i was thinking being objective.

I wasn't going to interject until i read this and frankly i'd have to disagree.. djembe's post was hardly esoteric or general, it was about a very specific and deliberate choice in the way one arranges and composes. it has nothing to do with 'good' mixing, it doesn't guarantee a good mix... it's just a technique you can use to create mixes that are perceived as louder and punchier

the reason it's not mystifying at all is that they certainly aren't the only musicians who produce this way, heck probably a lot of us have tried our hand at it at one point or another, for the above reason

  On 3/19/2010 at 3:32 PM, TwiddleBot said:

they certainly aren't the only musicians who produce this way, heck probably a lot of us have tried our hand at it at one point or another, for the above reason

That is actually my point.

  On 3/16/2010 at 12:17 PM, telefunken said:

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eta: oh shit this is an old thread :S

  On 9/13/2010 at 11:39 AM, ieafs said:

people keep thinking that the musical ideas were all generated by some sort of algorithm, when it seems to me more like... kind of "stochastic impressionism" on set chords to me.

This is my impression as well. there's very deliberate and often traditional chord changes. also some of the melodic material does sound hand-written, like the opening melody in see-on-see. but then the melodies kind of fracture and disperse into broken fragments of chords. it could very well be a mixture of different techniques, employing what IIRC xenakis called a 'fuzzy edge'

I really wish I could have seen them live. to me, the whole point of incorporating algorithmic techniques into your composition is so that it never sounds exactly the same twice.

  On 3/16/2010 at 2:31 AM, tipper said:

It's not that they're attempting to demystify themselves, the media mystifies them.

thread should have ended here. nail. head.