sneaksta303 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 On 7/17/2010 at 2:09 AM, lumpenprol said: Shit, what happened to Cillian Murphy? Looks like drugs to me. Eric Roberts, anyone? oh my.... yeahhh buddy you're prob right. Now lets guess what kind. I want to say that at the time of that picture, he was not on opiates. His pupils look normal from here. That expression looks mighty cute on him though Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1374969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 my favorite film of the year. still a bit awestruck actually. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1374989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 It's pretty damn good, but super fast paced. There were several moments where I started reflecting on concepts that were introduced and then missed part of what was going on because of it. But it was mostly just small detail things that got lost (and this movie is LOADED with small details). It seemed like a really short movie, but I've got a feeling it went on for an hour longer than I thought, judging by the time. Hm, that's very appropriate considering the whole dream time vs. real time idea... I like to think they actually worked that effect out somehow. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 I loved it unequivocally. It was taxing at times, but I was generally really pleased that it never got too confusing. It was very much like a cinematic puzzle. Everything was just good, it's Nolan's best in my eyes. Close behind is The Prestige and Dark Knight. The action was well considered and the craziness is simply explained. Nolan has worked really well on his action directing and doesn't overload the senses like most directors. It bodes really well for the final Batman. Remember that Batman Begins involved lots of non descript fighting in the dark? 10/10. Like Synecdoche this really tests the audiences comprehension. It needs to be watched on a big screen to maintain attention. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 wow i have to say i'm shocked. this movie was fantastic. By far my favorite Nolan movie so far. My expectations were very low since i wasn't that into his last 2 movies. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 wow that's high praise...i'm excited Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Fuck, you guys are actually making me excited. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 It's a real mental workout, but enjoyable like a cryptic crossword. The more you think you understand it, the more enjoyable it becomes. I had to take a few minutes to get back into reality afterwards. I couldn't remember which side of the car to sit in. It really sucks you in. Best film of the year. Could well be the film of the decade as it's uncopyable. I want to watch it again already. But it is really long. The Dark Knight felt too long, but Inception just drags you in with it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 http://www.observer.com/2010/culture/can-someone-please-explain-inception-me how does one go through life being this depressingly negative? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 what a bad piece Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Reveal hidden contents basically, this distinguishes itself from your typical heist flick by taking place in people's dreams. the dream worlds have nothing of the uncanny, mysterious, charged qualities of real dreams but are more or less exactly like the worlds of your average heist flick: lots of guns, astonishingly everyone is an amazing warrior capable of defeating enemies in suits in matrix-esque gravity-defying battles, using all manner of bombs and guns with complete expertise, various chase scenes, sundry explosions, etc. of course, cool effects remind us that we're in a cool movie about dreams and not some boring hollywood action movie so that's way cool man but in the dream world you get little glitches (matrix cat anyone?), neato gravitational shifts, totally wild twists in the appearance of things...and that's it. otherwise dreams are basically a superficial hodge podge of painful and repressed memories that manifest themselves in violence. while experts who have worked with dicaprio in several missions fail to notice that his subconscious has been dangerously corrupting the dream worlds and endangering their missions (well, they notice but that's about it. "yo dude, should i be worried that your dead wife keeps fucking up our missions?" "nah, bro. i got this." "aight.") and fail to inquire into the late night voyages into his subconscious that have been polluting their missions, juno walks in and instantly uncovers his inner life by asking simple questions and exerting a modicum of interest in what he's up to. her name is ariadne by the way. she makes labyrinths. lol. and decaprio's repressed wife that is running around ruining things, her name is mal. fucking lol. the dream within a dream element just provides extra action vignettes (eg, shift from a car chase to a snow mobile chase) and of course gives the viewer that satisfying "what is really real?" feeling we all love so much. whose dream is this? are they really awake or is this another dream? fuck if i care. but it was a fun summer flick i guess. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertsk8er419 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) lol thanks for laying it out like that Alcofriba. i think i'll pass on this one. Edited July 17, 2010 by impotentwhitecapitalist Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide vertsk8er419's signature Hide all signatures youtube • last.fm Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 On 7/17/2010 at 6:19 PM, Calx Sherbet said: http://www.observer.com/2010/culture/can-someone-please-explain-inception-me how does one go through life being this depressingly negative? "But as usual, like bottom feeder Charlie Kaufman..." lol, I stopped reading after that bit. This reviewer is seeing the world completely backwards from the way I see it. That's a whole other reality right there that I'm in no way part of. This is the first movie I've seen since the Matrix that seems likely to fill that same spot in pop culture. It seemed to be really affecting the people around me in the theatre. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) On 7/17/2010 at 7:39 PM, Alcofribas said: Reveal hidden contents basically, this distinguishes itself from your typical heist flick by taking place in people's dreams. the dream worlds have nothing of the uncanny, mysterious, charged qualities of real dreams but are more or less exactly like the worlds of your average heist flick: lots of guns, astonishingly everyone is an amazing warrior capable of defeating enemies in suits in matrix-esque gravity-defying battles, using all manner of bombs and guns with complete expertise, various chase scenes, sundry explosions, etc. of course, cool effects remind us that we're in a cool movie about dreams and not some boring hollywood action movie so that's way cool man but in the dream world you get little glitches (matrix cat anyone?), neato gravitational shifts, totally wild twists in the appearance of things...and that's it. otherwise dreams are basically a superficial hodge podge of painful and repressed memories that manifest themselves in violence. while experts who have worked with dicaprio in several missions fail to notice that his subconscious has been dangerously corrupting the dream worlds and endangering their missions (well, they notice but that's about it. "yo dude, should i be worried that your dead wife keeps fucking up our missions?" "nah, bro. i got this." "aight.") and fail to inquire into the late night voyages into his subconscious that have been polluting their missions, juno walks in and instantly uncovers his inner life by asking simple questions and exerting a modicum of interest in what he's up to. her name is ariadne by the way. she makes labyrinths. lol. and decaprio's repressed wife that is running around ruining things, her name is mal. fucking lol. the dream within a dream element just provides extra action vignettes (eg, shift from a car chase to a snow mobile chase) and of course gives the viewer that satisfying "what is really real?" feeling we all love so much. whose dream is this? are they really awake or is this another dream? fuck if i care. but it was a fun summer flick i guess. would have been nice to have more dream weirdness for sure. saw it in imax and its as good as people are saying. my only issue was that i would have prefered less action 007 type car chases and skiing with guns and explosions and more weirdness and complexity. i expected to get confused and I was only lost once Reveal hidden contents when fisher gets shot and they all think its over but then ellen page says something. no idea what she said but everyone agrees to try it. pete postlethwaite should win the most unused well known actor oscar. runner up michael cain. or are they considered cameos? took me till the credits to realise that tom hardy was bronson and i've seen his cock 9.5/10 Edited July 17, 2010 by Benedict Cumberbatch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 question: Reveal hidden contents why did leo have to convince his wife to put her head on the tracks? did she think limbo was real? he span her totom to convince her it wasn't real but they built that world together so she knew it was dream. she was in denial? and how long were they lying on the living room floor whilst they were in limbo? i know dream time is longer but didnt they have children/family etc? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 On 7/17/2010 at 8:32 PM, Benedict Cumberbatch said: would have been nice to have more dream weirdness for sure. saw it in imax and its as good as people are saying. my only issue was that i would have prefered less action 007 type car chases and skiing with guns and explosions and more weirdness and complexity. Those were pretty much my thoughts too. I tend to start tuning out when there's a lot of action going on, so much of the second half was just a blur for me. In fact, I think a lot of the excitement for me was having my imagination sparked after being sucked in by certain parts in the first half, rather than by the movie as a whole. For further explored weirdness and complexity with this kind of concept, Dark City is where it's at. That one's got to be in my top 20 movie list, possibly top 10. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 i thought even though it was tame in regards to weird imagery it was still one of the best movies i've seen portray dream worlds extensively. My only big complaint with the movie was too much gun and generic action but at least it didn't go the wire-foo Matrix route, even the anti gravity parts were explained plot-wise (ridiculous as they might have been). I've been watching all the Freddy movies again recently and i think until Inception, Nightmare on Elm St 3 the dream warrriors was my favorite movie about lucid dreaming. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest acknowledgeandproceed Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Very solid film. First rate everything. Still would have been disappointed if they hadn't given it the ending they did. A must-own when it comes out on DVD. Curious what the general public reaction is. It's not over-obvious, and that is welcome. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOCfan Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 On 7/17/2010 at 8:39 PM, Benedict Cumberbatch said: question: Reveal hidden contents why did leo have to convince his wife to put her head on the tracks? did she think limbo was real? he span her totom to convince her it wasn't real but they built that world together so she knew it was dream. she was in denial? and how long were they lying on the living room floor whilst they were in limbo? i know dream time is longer but didnt they have children/family etc? Answers to your question in the spoiler tag. Reveal hidden contents Basically, Cobb tricked Mal into believing that the world that they had created in limbo was real. That's why Cobb is convinced that the inception into Robert Fischer Jr.'s mind will work, as he used inception to pull the wool of Mal's eyes; I presume he wanted to see if were indeed possible. With this deception in place he then had to lure her out again by convincing her that the limbo world wasn't real. It was then, of course, that he discovered that once they'd woken up that she started to believe that they real world was a sham, and that limbo was real. I really cannot wait to go and see this movie again, as it's been stuck in my head since I saw it. I know it doesn't explore more strange visual imagery like some of you have said (something I was hoping the Matrix sequels would've done), but there's no denying that was is on display is absolutely beautiful to behold. I really haven't seen anything this brave and intelligent in the cinema for some time, and like Gary C, this might be my film of the decade. I'm so glad I avoided all trailers and articles on this movie prior to release. There's a lot of imagery I'd like to talk at length more about, but I won't do that until more people here have seen it as I'd hate to spoil it for anyone. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BOCfan's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdust Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Just got back from seeing this film, its probably one of the best original films i have seen in quite some time. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Saw this last night, easily one of my favourite movies ever. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 On 7/18/2010 at 5:53 PM, Higgins VanHiggins said: I really haven't seen anything this brave and intelligent in the cinema for some time, and like Gary C, this might be my film of the decade. would you expand upon why you think this film is brave? i don't get that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOCfan Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 On 7/18/2010 at 6:44 PM, Alcofribas said: On 7/18/2010 at 5:53 PM, Higgins VanHiggins said: I really haven't seen anything this brave and intelligent in the cinema for some time, and like Gary C, this might be my film of the decade. would you expand upon why you think this film is brave? i don't get that. The fact that it got made. Hollywood falls back on sequels and remakes far too often now, and it rarely takes a chance on anything like Inception anymore. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BOCfan's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 On 7/18/2010 at 5:53 PM, Higgins VanHiggins said: On 7/17/2010 at 8:39 PM, Benedict Cumberbatch said: question: Reveal hidden contents why did leo have to convince his wife to put her head on the tracks? did she think limbo was real? he span her totom to convince her it wasn't real but they built that world together so she knew it was dream. she was in denial? and how long were they lying on the living room floor whilst they were in limbo? i know dream time is longer but didnt they have children/family etc? Answers to your question in the spoiler tag. Reveal hidden contents Basically, Cobb tricked Mal into believing that the world that they had created in limbo was real. That's why Cobb is convinced that the inception into Robert Fischer Jr.'s mind will work, as he used inception to pull the wool of Mal's eyes; I presume he wanted to see if were indeed possible. With this deception in place he then had to lure her out again by convincing her that the limbo world wasn't real. It was then, of course, that he discovered that once they'd woken up that she started to believe that they real world was a sham, and that limbo was real. Disagreeing with your answer in spoiler tag Reveal hidden contents I'm pretty sure Cobb said that when he first tried inception it was to plant the idea that their dream world wasn't real so she would wake up back to reality, I don't think he did it to get her into the dream world in the first place. I understood it that Mal got caught up in some gnarly subconscious shit that was making her lose it and thats why he wanted to get her out. The house she grew up in was there and when the girl asked Cobb if Mal would be in there he said no and it sort of implied to me that Mal had brought some childhood trauma into the dream, or something, I'm probably wrong. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 My girlfriend wants to watch it again already, which is pretty high praise because she's not exactly got a great taste in films and I thought she might have trouble following along with something this cerebral. Not saying she's stupid, but I don't think she thinks as deeply about sci-fi matters as me, or has read enough serious literature. I haven't given her Synecdoche to watch yet, but she might get a kick from that if she can follow it deep enough. Anyway. I too have some ideas that I wanted to discuss. I didn't want to put them in here and ruin it for anyone that hasn't seen it, but I really want some feedback. So they're in the spoiler. SERIOUSLY: SPOILERS Reveal hidden contents So as the film ends we're not given a definite answer as to whether Cobb is in reality or not. If he is, that's fine. But if he's not; at what point did he get start dreaming? After testing the sedatives in India he goes to the bathroom to splash water on his face after another frightening encounter with Mal. He spins his token, but is interrupted by Saito and he never sees whether it topples or not. So maybe for the rest of the film he's actually been lying there in that basement along with all the other 'sleepers'. Maybe he'll lay there for the rest of his life. But who decided to do this for him? Who decided to trick him into a happy ending? Perhaps his father, Michael Caine? He is the only character that should in theory know the true events of Cobb's past and have the emotional drive to help him. He also brings Ariadne to him, who discovers Cobb's secrets. In fact, if the father has tricked Cobb into the ending it makes the final heist plot incredibly clever. In order to make Cobb believe that it is possible to go back home he's given an incredible task, and he, like Robert Fischer Jr, unlocks the key to his own safe in the deepest parts of his mind. That's all well and good as an explanation. But then where does Saito come in? He offers the deal to Cobb before the India scene. So with Cobb in the Indian basement Saito's task is never completed? Why would he agree to this? He is established as having immense power, so why help out in the plot to save this guy that just tried to steal secrets from him? The only answer to this idea is that Saito is just an actor for the elaborate plot to trick Cobb. But then the whole film begins to fall apart as we must believe something we have no evidence for; that the whole Saito heist in the first part of the film is just a set-up too. It therefore must be more likely that the film ends in reality. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/3/#findComment-1375580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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