Inception - Chris Nolan + Leo DiCaprio = best movie of the summer?

Fuck yeah, this movie did not disappoint. The IMAX was almost overwhelming with all the crazy physics. Can't wait to see it again.

just saw it. OK.........now -

This movie is pointing at an object and telling me it's an alligator and if i ask whether it's actually an alligator or not, then i've taken up too much time and i'm lost.

you have to take whatever they say for fact and move along. i AM that old guy asking the questions. i followed it but i had to let so many questions go, i don't even know what i wanted to ask anymore.

oh well i felt how they wanted me to feel when i left the theater going "Let's just crash the car into a wall and die so we can wake up and get out of this hundred degree heat".

I enjoyed the movie. I wish it was less bond. More labyrinths. More shit that felt like dreams. I don't know about you guys, but i usually dream about flesh golems, lasers, my bedroom made of pudding, thunder clap high fives, puzzle conversations that are so good that you keep talking when you wake up, riding on the back of gigantic teddy bears, going blind, this black woman I work with as a vampire, skeletons playing poker wearing crusader era armor, being in an episode of cops (hiding under a kiddie pool) etc.

Not that the dream scenarios in the film are not feasible. I have Call of Duty dreams occasionally, sure. I just think the "limbo" setting was the most interesting.

  On 7/19/2010 at 1:33 AM, KY said:

 

am i the only one that thought the plot was pretty goddamned easy to follow though? i read a review in AM New York that described the plot as too incongruent and muddled. they're way the fuck off base, amirite?

  On 7/17/2010 at 8:39 PM, Benedict Cumberbatch said:

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and how long were they lying on the living room floor whilst they were in limbo? i know dream time is longer but didnt they have children/family etc?

 

 

 

lol!

yah.

lol.

and a little trivia, the burglar's name in The Following is Cobb.

  On 7/19/2010 at 2:35 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 7/19/2010 at 1:33 AM, KY said:

 

am i the only one that thought the plot was pretty goddamned easy to follow though? i read a review in AM New York that described the plot as too incongruent and muddled. they're way the fuck off base, amirite?

 

no you're not, i think people are just generally very stupid.

 

while i think the totem spinning top thing was meant to make us question if Cobb was still in a dream , Nolan wasn't necessarily saying that when Cobb used the totem in his dream it acted exactly like it was supposed to every time. Although i think this was the general understanding of the audience anyone who has lucid dreamed and done the same kind of 'reality check' 1 / 10 times it's not going to be effective and will have the exact same results as non-dream reality.

 

in other words, there is nothing a dreamer can do that is a guaranteed means of finding out if he/she is dreaming while in a dream (the reverse of that is true too) . i think if anything this concept has a deeper meaning.

ehh i dont buy that. if nothing else works in the movie like it does in real lucid dreams then why should that?

This movie was nothing compared to a film like Primer, as far as time lines go. I didn't have a hard time following it at all, though you are bombarded by a lot of imagery. Maybe that is why some are confused?

re: what Chris Moss said earlier, i was wondering the same thing about the part where Cobb first tries the sedation drug combo. i kept expecting him to wake-up again but it never happened.

a couple more complaints i have about the film is that they seemed to all have the perfect ability to be 100% sober within minutes after waking up from sleep from heavy intoxication.

there was a funny season 6 X-files episode called 'field trip' where mulder and scully are trapped in a giant hallucinogenic fungus that is slowly eating them alive. They both think they escape and as they are explaining the adventure to Skinner Mulder asks Scully 'something isn't right...have you ever heard of a drug where it's effects wear off on the subject once he realizes that he is intoxicated?'.

I think Christopher Nolan is a much bigger fan of Freddy Krueger than he's willing to admit.

9/10 - My exact only complaints upon discussing this with my friends on the drive back was that the dreams weren't surrealistic, distorted, random, trippy, weird enough and that it wasn't explained how ellen pages character goes from doesn't know shes dreaming to instant lucid dreamer consistently or how the shared dream technology works. I would have liked if they would have just made some type of explanation for why the dreams weren't random fucked surrealistic a lot of the time or how they became lucid right when they popped into the dream world while on heavy sedatives.

Pretty good movie, but I feel slightly disappointed that such an interesting premise took such a traditional path. The action was the most boring aspect of the film for the most part, aside from a few excellent scenes. A little long and a little to safe, Nolan is amazing but he's a tad too straight, Jonze/Kaufman could have added some real depth to it I think.

  On 7/18/2010 at 7:14 PM, SPD² said:

  On 7/18/2010 at 6:50 PM, Higgins VanHiggins said:

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  On 7/18/2010 at 5:53 PM, Higgins VanHiggins said:

 

I really haven't seen anything this brave and intelligent in the cinema for some time, and like Gary C, this might be my film of the decade.

 

 

would you expand upon why you think this film is brave? i don't get that.

 

The fact that it got made.

 

Hollywood falls back on sequels and remakes far too often now, and it rarely takes a chance on anything like Inception anymore.

 

that said, they did put to use the combo of a director that just did one of the most successful movies of all time, with the lead actor from the most successful movie of all time, so you know, i'm just sayin'.

True indeed. If it hadn't have been for The Dark Knight's success, Nolan wouldn't have had the free reign to getting the movie made that he did. That's not to say he wouldn't have got it made, but it might have had to have been scaled back due to budget constraints (and who knows, the suits might have interfered more as well).

  On 7/18/2010 at 7:06 PM, Coalbucket PI said:

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  On 7/17/2010 at 8:39 PM, Benedict Cumberbatch said:

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why did leo have to convince his wife to put her head on the tracks? did she think limbo was real? he span her totom to convince her it wasn't real but they built that world together so she knew it was dream. she was in denial?

 

and how long were they lying on the living room floor whilst they were in limbo? i know dream time is longer but didnt they have children/family etc?

 

 

 

 

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Basically, Cobb tricked Mal into believing that the world that they had created in limbo was real. That's why Cobb is convinced that the inception into Robert Fischer Jr.'s mind will work, as he used inception to pull the wool of Mal's eyes; I presume he wanted to see if were indeed possible. With this deception in place he then had to lure her out again by convincing her that the limbo world wasn't real.

 

It was then, of course, that he discovered that once they'd woken up that she started to believe that they real world was a sham, and that limbo was real.

 

 

 

 

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I'm pretty sure Cobb said that when he first tried inception it was to plant the idea that their dream world wasn't real so she would wake up back to reality, I don't think he did it to get her into the dream world in the first place. I understood it that Mal got caught up in some gnarly subconscious shit that was making her lose it and thats why he wanted to get her out. The house she grew up in was there and when the girl asked Cobb if Mal would be in there he said no and it sort of implied to me that Mal had brought some childhood trauma into the dream, or something, I'm probably wrong.

 

 

See below.

This movie was great.

That is all you need to know.

  On 7/19/2010 at 6:08 AM, karmakramer said:

Pretty good movie, but I feel slightly disappointed that such an interesting premise took such a traditional path. The action was the most boring aspect of the film for the most part, aside from a few excellent scenes. A little long and a little to safe, Nolan is amazing but he's a tad too straight, Jonze/Kaufman could have added some real depth to it I think.

agreed. this is not my favorite Nolan movie.

Those complaints aside, Cillian Murphy and Gordon-Levitt are perfectly cast and they are both great actors I love watching. And the movie isn't bad, just nowhere near the mindfuck or groundbreaking experience it was purported to be.

i thought the stuff with cobb and mal was great. how you got a little info at a time

saw this last night in imax. didnt know ken watanabe was in it. truth be told i only went because leo was in it, but watanabe is "dreamy" as well LOL. i thought it was a really cool movie. i think the cell was a little better at visually representing dreams. i thought the matrix was better at unveiling a mindfuck plot. i thought synechdoche was better at exploring the idea of mentally imploding. sphere was better at one dude's manifestations fucking it up for everyone else. eternal sunshine was better at overlapping real world and subconscious interactions. the flow of the action combined with the music has the exact same feel as one of the new batman movies. nolan's signature i guess? not a bad thing. despite all this, the movie comes across as original. and i'm not even sure how. perhaps because it's packaged as a summer action flick. i think this should be the standard for a summer blockbuster. we should expect action movies at bassline to be this creative and engaging. there's plenty of room for improvement though. like everyone else said, if they could've just turned the volume up a little on dreamworld surrealness, we'd really have something special on our hands. the ending was great. there was something annoying about the snow fortress layer of dreaming. it was almost too much like a hilariously bad bond film. like an austin powers film. maybe that's surreality for you. i think the most interesting aspect about experiencing this movie was that while it didnt live up to my expectations in the trippy visual dreamy mindfuck department (i.e. what got me into the theatre on opening weekend), it totally exceded my expectations in the creative plot with gripping character dynamic and engaging exploration of the human psyche department.

like i said, a film of this caliber should be expected every time you go to the theatre and drop $17 a person on imax tickets. 7.5/10

The initial premise is very elegant but the ending is so predictable, Ellen Page's character is so weak, much of the actual editing is weak, and a lot of the action sequences drag on.

7.5/10

I thought the sound design was pretty great, loved the sound of some of the guns, and the bass, oh the bass

there was a trailer for the new tron, and i thought the music was dope as fuck.

  On 7/19/2010 at 8:10 PM, karmakramer said:

I thought the sound design was pretty great, loved the sound of some of the guns, and the bass, oh the bass

yes. but it could have used even more bass farts.

5 stars!

  On 7/19/2010 at 3:31 AM, Awepittance said:

re: what Chris Moss said earlier, i was wondering the same thing about the part where Cobb first tries the sedation drug combo. i kept expecting him to wake-up again but it never happened.

 

 

a couple more complaints i have about the film is that they seemed to all have the perfect ability to be 100% sober within minutes after waking up from sleep from heavy intoxication.

there was a funny season 6 X-files episode called 'field trip' where mulder and scully are trapped in a giant hallucinogenic fungus that is slowly eating them alive. They both think they escape and as they are explaining the adventure to Skinner Mulder asks Scully 'something isn't right...have you ever heard of a drug where it's effects wear off on the subject once he realizes that he is intoxicated?'.

 

I think Christopher Nolan is a much bigger fan of Freddy Krueger than he's willing to admit.

what did i say earlier? i havnt seen the film yet. (or posted in this post//untill now)

  On 7/19/2010 at 9:53 PM, chris moss acid said:

  On 7/19/2010 at 3:31 AM, Awepittance said:

re: what Chris Moss said earlier, i was wondering the same thing about the part where Cobb first tries the sedation drug combo. i kept expecting him to wake-up again but it never happened.

 

 

a couple more complaints i have about the film is that they seemed to all have the perfect ability to be 100% sober within minutes after waking up from sleep from heavy intoxication.

there was a funny season 6 X-files episode called 'field trip' where mulder and scully are trapped in a giant hallucinogenic fungus that is slowly eating them alive. They both think they escape and as they are explaining the adventure to Skinner Mulder asks Scully 'something isn't right...have you ever heard of a drug where it's effects wear off on the subject once he realizes that he is intoxicated?'.

 

I think Christopher Nolan is a much bigger fan of Freddy Krueger than he's willing to admit.

 

what did i say earlier? i havnt seen the film yet. (or posted in this post//untill now)

fuck. you're going to have say it in the future or the STC will implode

Major complaint I've heard concerning this film is that it wasn't surreal or trippy enough in the dream sequences, but so far as the film's set up was concerned, that's irrelevant. The target's subconscious would attack you if you constructed a mad visual masterpiece. Sure, it wasn't completely congruent with real dreams, but what is?

Remember, this was a Hollywood film that was mostly designed to appeal to the broadest audience possible starring big names. If you were going into this film expecting some high-tech Godard or Felinni, then yeah, you're gonna be disappointed.

Also, at one point a character DOES explain the entire plot of the film in a single sentence. People I know laughed at this, but its absolutely required for the mass audience, ie: lowest common denominator...

The point of the film is to question reality, yes? Well Christ, it's recently been determined that consciousness is an epiphenomenon. If that goes over your head, then by all means lean towards a more malignant criticism.

It's not a masterpiece, but it was extremely well-made, a rarity in the mass market, for some reason. It was a solid action flick that makes stupid people confused and smart people hypercritical. Put me in the middle category, wherein I knew it was going to be Shutter Island meets The Matrix, and I enjoyed it for what it was. Chris Nolan has gotten my attention.

Also, more bass farts would have been appreciated.

  On 7/19/2010 at 9:53 PM, chris moss acid said:

  On 7/19/2010 at 3:31 AM, Awepittance said:

re: what Chris Moss said earlier, i was wondering the same thing about the part where Cobb first tries the sedation drug combo. i kept expecting him to wake-up again but it never happened.

 

 

a couple more complaints i have about the film is that they seemed to all have the perfect ability to be 100% sober within minutes after waking up from sleep from heavy intoxication.

there was a funny season 6 X-files episode called 'field trip' where mulder and scully are trapped in a giant hallucinogenic fungus that is slowly eating them alive. They both think they escape and as they are explaining the adventure to Skinner Mulder asks Scully 'something isn't right...have you ever heard of a drug where it's effects wear off on the subject once he realizes that he is intoxicated?'.

 

I think Christopher Nolan is a much bigger fan of Freddy Krueger than he's willing to admit.

 

what did i say earlier? i havnt seen the film yet. (or posted in this post//untill now)

whoops somehow confused you with Gary C