Remember that bassist who assumed he was better than Tom?

  On 5/9/2011 at 11:24 AM, Diminished second said:

trying to add a click to a master with no peak point of reference.

Ok my original point still stands, I guess I didn't articulate it very well. Just because you may be hitting every downbeat in time with the click doesn't mean that you're lining up with the subdivisions of each measure very well. Look we're not trying to shit on you, but if this many people have said that the rhythm is something to work on, it can't mean we're all wrong?

I want you guys to click your mouses to a clicker and post em up!

I think the timing IS expressive. Absolutely no need at all for perfect timing. Perfection isn't very attractive. All these people hating need to put SP's Solo Electric Bass release to a metronome...lolol.

I need to see the Support to Hate/I'm Better Than You ratio even out around this forum.

In that light, great job man! Keep up the good work.

This is why white people shouldn't be allowed to make music.

  On 5/9/2011 at 1:38 PM, dr lopez said:

  On 5/9/2011 at 11:24 AM, Diminished second said:

trying to add a click to a master with no peak point of reference.

 

Ok my original point still stands, I guess I didn't articulate it very well. Just because you may be hitting every downbeat in time with the click doesn't mean that you're lining up with the subdivisions of each measure very well. Look we're not trying to shit on you, but if this many people have said that the rhythm is something to work on, it can't mean we're all wrong?

on another note, timing isn't everything. But you're not playing that musically, which is what I think people in this thread are picking up on. There is nothing wrong with making it a little looser as long as you know where to loosen up the rhythm and make it more expressive, rather than using that as an excuse for unmusical timing.

edit: also some change in dynamic range would make this so much more enjoyable, makes it seem less like a guy just plucking away for minutes on end.

  On 5/9/2011 at 5:50 PM, illfly mandog said:

I want you guys to click your mouses to a clicker and post em up!

 

I think the timing IS expressive. Absolutely no need at all for perfect timing. Perfection isn't very attractive. All these people hating need to put SP's Solo Electric Bass release to a metronome...lolol.

 

I need to see the Support to Hate/I'm Better Than You ratio even out around this forum.

 

In that light, great job man! Keep up the good work.

you guys are right, i spent too much time making it perfect in the "to a click" perspective that it lost its soul. but commenting now on the upbeats.... do i have to put it with a double time click...? because it is the same. it no longer sounds human. i thinks that's the problem, which is why the first videos i said i was playing it loose for a reason. looking back on it..... i wouldnt wipe my ass with it. now i have to find a comfortable medium.

i really appreciate the harsh critique, asking friends and loved ones just gets the same "that's nice" answer, it is nice to hear something new.

  On 5/9/2011 at 7:12 PM, dr lopez said:

  On 5/9/2011 at 1:38 PM, dr lopez said:

  On 5/9/2011 at 11:24 AM, Diminished second said:

trying to add a click to a master with no peak point of reference.

 

Ok my original point still stands, I guess I didn't articulate it very well. Just because you may be hitting every downbeat in time with the click doesn't mean that you're lining up with the subdivisions of each measure very well. Look we're not trying to shit on you, but if this many people have said that the rhythm is something to work on, it can't mean we're all wrong?

on another note, timing isn't everything. But you're not playing that musically, which is what I think people in this thread are picking up on. There is nothing wrong with making it a little looser as long as you know where to loosen up the rhythm and make it more expressive, rather than using that as an excuse for unmusical timing.

edit: also some change in dynamic range would make this so much more enjoyable, makes it seem less like a guy just plucking away for minutes on end.

its a shame i didn't hear that before i finished the first album you are right and looking back on it it could be so much better. but now i know for the next one (9 string guitar (i am pretty excited)).

thanks again.

Finn

I don't really about who's better, etcetra, doesn't matter at all, but I wanted to drop this little bit of sweetness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7qjuv2iFnY

fret tapping = how to sound cleaver to those who don't know what good playing is

you come out with cool riffs, and your skill is good enough for most things, but that's about all the good I can say.

it's evident that you need to work on technique. the little things.

maybe your style fits classical guitar better? do you like it? try some crazy flamenco, stuff like that.

  On 5/10/2011 at 4:14 AM, GORDO said:

you come out with cool riffs, and your skill is good enough for most things, but that's about all the good I can say.

 

it's evident that you need to work on technique. the little things.

 

maybe your style fits classical guitar better? do you like it? try some crazy flamenco, stuff like that.

thanks for the pointers. it is finny you should mention classical guitar, it is where i come from. i have been been playing flamenco far longer then i have played the bass, i did the change to learn new techniques and cross genera barriers. it is odbvious i still have allot to learn, but it has only been 3 years... i have my whole life up ahead.

  On 5/10/2011 at 1:20 AM, Diminished second said:

you guys are right, i spent too much time making it perfect in the "to a click" perspective that it lost its soul.

The lack of groove in your playing does not stem from your ability to play perfectly "to a click", and don't fool yourself into believing that. You are all over the place with regards to micro timing and still have a long way to go before you can consistently play on, ahead or behind the beat. Unless you're a natural genious groove talent (like most of us aren't and you don't sound like), do keep practicing with the click. When a lifeless metronome starts to sound groovy because of your playing to it, that's when you're getting there.

Hey guys, I play a bass guitar synthesizer. Does that count?

You mean this one?

yeah what i find so weird about this whole thing is how it's possible to get this technically proficient and completely ignore the most musically interesting and important tradition of the instrument, jazz and subsequently funk. Why you would become a bass player and NOT play groovy rhythmic music is completely beyond me.

when i had been playing bass for about 3 years as my primary instrument, i too thought playing a lot of notes very quickly was a show of skill. i slowly had a change in philosophy that was brought on by Tool, then afx/ae. it's all about where the note is, how you play it, and how it communicates with the rest of the band , specifically the percussion (or how it resonates with the rest of the song, in the solo bass case). i like a simple bass line that holds a song together more than a lot of wootens wankery.

that said, i think this guy has some serious chops, and i applaud him for putting his shit on the internet for all you bass professionals to shoot holes in everything he does. getting to his level is probably the most tedious, difficult part of learning an instrument. once i got my chops to an acceptable level, it was all fun from there on out. instead of paying attention to each little note, i paid attention to the song as a whole, and in doing so was much more satisfied with the "musicality".

all in all, i'd say you (OP) need to worry less about the notes and more about the groove, maybe even simplify some of the runs. and DYNAMICS is such a big part of all music that it should be a top priority for anything you ever do ever. good luck man

edit - try doing a more sparse, groovy line with your right hand tapping

musical equivalent of a tech demo

everyone goes ahhhh

but no one wants to play a tech demo

  On 5/11/2011 at 4:07 PM, Adam Beker said:

You mean this one?

It's not about how you sound it's about how good you look playing

I want one of those.

this kid stomps you btw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZH2-rTp8Ug&feature=player_embedded#at=128

  On 5/13/2011 at 7:12 AM, sneaksta303 said:

this kid stomps you btw

That kid thinks he is playing a sega gamegear.

that kid is seriously unreal

what is he like 12?

I actually think the kid sounds like he's rushing the beat a little. But it is insane that he can do jaco fingerings with his not fully grown left hand.

edit: He was only rushing in the very beginning of the groove. He gets in to it later and then settles down. Very nice.