Music too easy to make now?

  On 11/23/2010 at 5:42 PM, chassis said:

It's too easy for Promo to make threads.

 

should he have to bike ten miles first or someth.?

  On 11/23/2010 at 10:10 PM, hahathhat said:

  On 11/23/2010 at 5:42 PM, chassis said:

It's too easy for Promo to make threads.

 

should he have to bike ten miles first or someth.?

 

He should have to read something......some sort of guidelines, I though I had it there. Maybe someone can articulate it better.

i think one topic/10 miles is about right. but can we trust him to stick to it?

  On 11/24/2010 at 12:01 AM, hahathhat said:

i think one topic/10 miles is about right. but can we trust him to stick to it?

 

I think we should make him look at his own avatar for an hour. He'd probably break his computer after half an hour.

  On 11/22/2010 at 12:21 AM, Promo said:

music just becoming too easy

 

oh thank god *runs off to make loads of music

 

 

 

 

 

for serious, though, i think it's just easier to share music now. i'm sure this distribution of music you enjoy:music you do not enjoy is similar, you're just aware of more of it now.

Yeah exactly. Kind of surprised that I didn't chime in that earlier but yeah for sure one of the biggest things that has changed despite all the developments in music software is it's become infinitely easier to share your music/tell people that you make music.

(which I don't exactly love the over-saturated result of this because people automatically 9 times more likely to assume that even the most ambitious home music productions are likely to be disposable and mediocre when sooo many more people now are easily able to proclaim themselves to be musical artists)

  On 11/23/2010 at 6:26 PM, bigfatLOL said:

i agree making music is easy and making good music is difficult. but the problem is that the average person cant tell the difference, especially when it comes to electronic music.

aye. This applies to myself, in some ways. I listen to IDM stuff pretty irregularly, as casually. I'm not really an enthusiast, and have a VERY small collection. I know what I like, but, I don't know a lot, and I don't analyse it too much. If I hear something amatuer that my friend has made, it sounds suprisingly good to me, but to y'all, it sounds rubbish...

  On 11/23/2010 at 6:26 PM, bigfatLOL said:

but the problem is that the average person cant tell the difference, especially when it comes to electronic music.

 

I think it's due mainly to the radio. The average everyday Joe-schmo listener isn't doused in noisy AFX stupid chopped breaks on a daily basis like WATMM is, nor do they listen to noisy acoustic indie music either. The audience is to blame really, no one seems to have a desire to dig deeper into underground music and explore odd sounds, but those groups tend to evolve separate from the whole.

 

I don't recall the Orb track right off of my head, but the sample at the beginning of the song was 'listen to the radio' repeated for quite a few bars, all the while a noisy synth pad droned on. That basically sums up my argument quite well...

 

  On 11/24/2010 at 8:13 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

(...easily able to proclaim themselves to be musical artists)

 

I completely agree. Despite the fact that I make 'music' I don't refer to myself as a musician at all, nor any sort of artist. I consider myself to be a twat with software, a laptop mic and a shortwave radio who simply likes making funny noises. And on occasion these funny noises may actually form a nice rhythmic pattern; noisemaker, if you will.

 

It's all perception IMO. A musician, artist or whatever could be influenced by other folks who have been considered to be absolute trash by the general community or scene, and hell, they may go on to be the next big thing in music.

  On 11/23/2010 at 6:26 PM, bigfatLOL said:

i agree making music is easy and making good music is difficult. but the problem is that the average person cant tell the difference, especially when it comes to electronic music. this is compounded by these same people who have to restraint when it comes to uploading all their work. i think that you should only upload stuff that you have worked hard on and are proud of, not just everything. the problem with that is there is nothing stopping anyone from doing it, and most ppl are just looking for attention not necessarily trying to progress the artform.

 

yep, exactly. people have no idea what good electronic music is or even what to look for in it. europe has a better perspective as they seem to embrace new ideas, whereas, in the states people see electronic as the filter sweeps used in classic rock or some spacey Eno shite.

yes, i thought the same thing when i made fatboy slims best track with mixman studio back in the ninties.

I figured music got too easy to make when the fuzzy power chord took over every garage in the world. Kids these days, i tell ya.

This thread is full of elitist bullshit. Honestly, telling people 'they don't know what good music is and can't tell the difference' is seriously arrogant.

 

Good music is defined by someone who likes the sound of it. Making up some airy fairy idea that 'good' electronic music is only produced by people with some secret mystical knowledge is utter nonsense.

 

Just enjoy yourself and make music you want to hear, forget whether society will judge it 'good' or not with whatever random and meaningless yardstick they've decided to apply.

  On 11/24/2010 at 5:31 PM, Ian said:

This thread is full of elitist bullshit. Honestly, telling people 'they don't know what good music is and can't tell the difference' is seriously arrogant.

 

 

Lol, of course they can't. They would't listen to Bieber if they could.

Edited November 24, 2010 by Adam Beker

like Neitzsche said, art is gratitude. if you can't respect what's been created, it's not 'good art'. how can you say some watered down, sold out, cash-obsessed shit like Bieber even compares to something as creative as what's on this board? it sounds elitist, and maybe it is. but, with something like Bieber it's more about entertainment than anything artistic, anyway.

Edited November 24, 2010 by mafted

  On 11/24/2010 at 10:45 AM, Gbiscuit said:

I think it's due mainly to the radio. The average everyday Joe-schmo listener isn't doused in noisy AFX stupid chopped breaks on a daily basis like WATMM is, nor do they listen to noisy acoustic indie music either. The audience is to blame really, no one seems to have a desire to dig deeper into underground music and explore odd sounds, but those groups tend to evolve separate from the whole.

 

Well I suppose if you're not used to hearing music with a lot of fast programmed drums you might be quickly beguiled by the sound of generic shit idm, this would quickly wear off anyone with a modicum of taste. The real problem is actually that many people who are exposed to it regularly aren't all that likely to be musical either. Aphex twin can appeal to different people on different levels. Some will undoubtedly just like it cos they think it's slightly alternative and actually don't really care if or why it's good... anyone who likes ceephax unironically really.

  On 11/24/2010 at 6:32 PM, jim said:

Aphex twin can appeal to different people on different levels. Some will undoubtedly just like it cos they think it's slightly alternative and actually don't really care if or why it's good... anyone who likes ceephax unironically really.

 

Psssh.

Unironically? Have you heard UAE, dumb ass.

time tunnel is what i wish squarepusher would go back to. i didn't find it particularly ironic.

  On 11/24/2010 at 8:54 PM, chassis said:

Unironically? Have you heard UAE, dumb ass.

 

No I hadn't. Just youtubed it... and I was right, you're a fucking idiot, it's rubbish.

PSSH.

  On 11/24/2010 at 11:57 PM, sneaksta303 said:

PSSH.

  On 11/24/2010 at 5:31 PM, Ian said:

This thread is full of elitist bullshit. Honestly, telling people 'they don't know what good music is and can't tell the difference' is seriously arrogant.

 

Good music is defined by someone who likes the sound of it. Making up some airy fairy idea that 'good' electronic music is only produced by people with some secret mystical knowledge is utter nonsense.

 

Just enjoy yourself and make music you want to hear, forget whether society will judge it 'good' or not with whatever random and meaningless yardstick they've decided to apply.

 

+1

 

  On 11/25/2010 at 12:01 AM, luke viia said:

  On 11/24/2010 at 5:31 PM, Ian said:

This thread is full of elitist bullshit. Honestly, telling people 'they don't know what good music is and can't tell the difference' is seriously arrogant.

 

Good music is defined by someone who likes the sound of it. Making up some airy fairy idea that 'good' electronic music is only produced by people with some secret mystical knowledge is utter nonsense.

 

Just enjoy yourself and make music you want to hear, forget whether society will judge it 'good' or not with whatever random and meaningless yardstick they've decided to apply.

 

+1

 

 

+2

people of today don't deserve good music.

  On 11/25/2010 at 12:48 AM, nsixqatsi said:

people of today don't deserve good music.

 

-1!

 

(nice drawings though man! i hope i "deserved" them)