Music too easy to make now?

A/D's avatar charms me every time. i know that smile

  On 11/25/2010 at 6:35 AM, A/D said:

  On 11/25/2010 at 12:48 AM, nsixqatsi said:

people of today don't deserve good music.

 

-1!

 

(nice drawings though man! i hope i "deserved" them)

i burned a lot of them recently!

EDIT: nsixqatsi, thats very retarded. Care to explain why people dont deserve it?

it's never been easier to make shite

it's never been easier to make awesome music

it's too easy to make butter nowadays... i used to have to churn that shit

  On 11/27/2010 at 12:13 AM, kaini said:

it's never been easier to make shite

it's never been easier to make awesome music

i think thats pretty much it.

  On 11/27/2010 at 12:13 AM, kaini said:

it's never been easier to make shite

it's never been easier to make awesome music

While this is only an opinion, I would agree with the first statement and disagree with the second.

While it may be easier because nowadays you don't need money or any physical equipment to make electronic music, this has made making great music much more difficult.

Surely decent music is simple to make but since the tools are so available, it's become much harder to carve out styles and unique sounds, much more difficult to break ground and be a pioneer when anybody with a computer can make music. For me personally thats a really important factor when it comes to my own listening habits these days. If you make a tune that's significantly similar to another tune but not significantly better I most likely will have little to no interest in that music.

If you have a completely unique take on a style of music or make your own style of music all-together, even if the tracks are kind of shit, I'd be much more interested. Chances are if the unique thing you're doing is influential at any rate, it will eventually evolve and be refined into something totally fresh but also inherently enjoyable, which is what great music is for me.

It doesn't have to be so drastic however...the least you'd have to do to catch my attention would be simply to use a melody, a rhythm, drum beat, w/e in a context its never been used before in a way that makes sense.

  On 11/27/2010 at 1:35 AM, David R James said:

  On 11/27/2010 at 12:13 AM, kaini said:

it's never been easier to make shite

it's never been easier to make awesome music

 

i think thats pretty much it.

shite, awesome. these are relative terms, and what is awesome depends who you are and what decade it is. the cutting edge is always the cutting edge. the greed of politicians expands to fill all the available stupidity

  On 11/27/2010 at 10:06 PM, hahathhat said:

  On 11/27/2010 at 1:35 AM, David R James said:

  On 11/27/2010 at 12:13 AM, kaini said:

it's never been easier to make shite

it's never been easier to make awesome music

 

i think thats pretty much it.

 

shite, awesome. these are relative terms, and what is awesome depends who you are and what decade it is. the cutting edge is always the cutting edge. the greed of politicians expands to fill all the available stupidity

not so sure... the beatles are i think as close to universal agreement on being awesome as you get. something like jan terri is as close as i can imagine to being universally regarded as shite. even within a sliding scale like awesome/shite, i think there are things everyone can agree with.

  On 11/28/2010 at 7:00 AM, kaini said:

 

not so sure... the beatles are i think as close to universal agreement on being awesome as you get. something like jan terri is as close as i can imagine to being universally regarded as shite. even within a sliding scale like awesome/shite, i think there are things everyone can agree with.

Beatles are shite. Afx is awesome.

lols

  On 11/28/2010 at 11:06 AM, Adam Beker said:

  On 11/28/2010 at 7:00 AM, kaini said:

 

not so sure... the beatles are i think as close to universal agreement on being awesome as you get. something like jan terri is as close as i can imagine to being universally regarded as shite. even within a sliding scale like awesome/shite, i think there are things everyone can agree with.

 

 

Beatles are shite. Afx is awesome.

if this were 1971, and afx was in diapers still, then what might you say... ?

  On 11/28/2010 at 5:47 PM, hahathhat said:

  On 11/28/2010 at 11:06 AM, Adam Beker said:

  On 11/28/2010 at 7:00 AM, kaini said:

 

not so sure... the beatles are i think as close to universal agreement on being awesome as you get. something like jan terri is as close as i can imagine to being universally regarded as shite. even within a sliding scale like awesome/shite, i think there are things everyone can agree with.

 

 

Beatles are shite. Afx is awesome.

 

if this were 1971, and afx was in diapers still, then what might you say... ?

The Beatles are good and so to is George Martin for helping to realise some of the forward thinking productions

Aphex is good and I also like some of his previous forward thinking productions

No, music isn't "too easy to make now". There's a variety of reasons but mainly, I agree with there's "more to sift through" and it's easier to promote and get your "music" out to a mass scale audience. The key is, how does it make people feel, and will they remember it. Pink Floyd touches on the equipment (or now, software DAW's and Vsts) in the Live from Pompeii video (1972):

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Dave Gilmour: "I don't think the equipment could take over. We do rely on it a lot. I mean, we couldn't do what we do, as we do it, without it. We could still do a good, entertaining musical show, I suppose, without it. But all those things are down to how you control them. And whether you are controlling them, and not the other way round."

 

Nick Mason: "There's a danger that we could become slaves of all our equipment, and in the past we have been. But what we're trying to do is to sort it all out. So that we're not."

 

Roger Waters: "It's just a question of using the tools that are available, when they're available. And more and more now, there's all kinds of electronic goodies which are available for people like us to use, if we can be bothered. And we can be bothered."

 

Dave Gilmour: "I mean it's all extensions of what's coming out of our heads. I mean, you’ve got to remember you’ve got to have it inside your head to be able to get it out at all anyway. The equipment isn't actually thinking of what to do any of the time. It couldn't control itself."

 

 

Dave Gilmour: "It would be interesting to see exactly what four people could do, if just given the equipment, who didn’t know anything about it, really. And just told them to get on with it, and do something. It’d be an interesting experiment. I think we'd come off better."

 

Roger Waters: "It's like saying, give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton. And it's not true. And give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become, whoever, you know, he doesn't become us."

 

I don't think anything as far as composition is concerned, or creating "art" goes, has changed. It's always been extremely accessible. The only thing If see that's changed is the platform of exposure. But even then, walking out into the village square in the middle ages and singing a song every day until every villager and the king knows it, most likely isn't too different from posting something on youtube for the whole world to see. I you never left your village your whole life, and everyone knew you and your song in the village, then that was the world to you, and that was just as powerful as youtube. It's a matter of perspective I suppose, and everyone's is different.

If you keep thinking along the lines of "shite music" and "awesome music" you're just going to stay in the same loop forever. I'd say about 95% of the music I listen to on an average day, WATMM would consider shite. But that's okay, it's wonderful to me. I just hope that one day, people that think that way (as I did when I was a young teen) start to branch out and realize it's not all so "bad". There's just a lot of flavors, and some you like the taste of and some you don't. But remember, the flavors you don't like are still available becuase other people do in fact, enjoy them.

I love pop music, because it energizes me, and puts me in a bouncy happy mood. Not because they (the producers or in other words "performers") are running 64th note arpeggios up and down while smoking a cigarette and dry humping an amplifier.

  On 11/28/2010 at 5:47 PM, hahathhat said:

  On 11/28/2010 at 11:06 AM, Adam Beker said:

  On 11/28/2010 at 7:00 AM, kaini said:

 

not so sure... the beatles are i think as close to universal agreement on being awesome as you get. something like jan terri is as close as i can imagine to being universally regarded as shite. even within a sliding scale like awesome/shite, i think there are things everyone can agree with.

 

 

Beatles are shite. Afx is awesome.

 

if this were 1971, and afx was in diapers still, then what might you say... ?

Nothing, i wouldn't be born yet.

exactly. exactly

clearly we're seeing eye to eye.

music is too easy to make now.

judging the quality of art is always hard to do, and i do believe there are absolutely no universal standards of quality. i tend to rate music by how much creative ingenuity was taken to create it. the extent to which the track was specifically tailored by the artist, and the novelty of the ideas they used to tailor it.

it's easier to make shit music these days because it's easier to make tracks without putting any of your own ideas into them.

What's been stumping me is that the actual QUALITY of bedroom producers has risen to a point where you really have to have your shit together to get any sort of audience. As frustrating as it can be sometimes, it's healthy competition, and healthy competition often brings out the best in people.

I've been listening to the soundcloud accounts of random dnb and dubstep producers in my hometown here in australia and they've been fucking blowing me away and making me feel kinda shitty about my own stuff, but at the same time it gtives me something to strive to beat.

why do i have to submit myself to your obnoxious standards?

  On 11/27/2010 at 12:13 AM, kaini said:

it's never been easier to make shite

it's never been different to make awesome music

fixt.

I don't think it's become any easier to develop and execute a good idea, but it's easier to make things sound shiny. And cheaper (which is the real variable this thread should be about). It used to cost thousands to have the richness in instruments that now any d00d can get off some torrent.

making music has become more accessible, not easier.

I don't think it's easier , I think is more accessible.

Unfortunately with accessibility comes the 13 years old doing tiesto music ( just look at YouTube tutorial videos , disgustuing generic music)

You have to be someone special to make something worth listening using software , you need to think outside the box with these softwares because they are specially design to make shit tiesto music.

  On 12/4/2010 at 5:05 PM, Boxing Day said:

You have to be someone special to make something worth listening using software , you need to think outside the box with these softwares because they are specially design to make shit tiesto music.

you are obviously not a special man i guess!!

i enjoy using extremely crappy software sometimes for a laugh. like this shit

  On 12/4/2010 at 7:36 PM, hahathhat said:

  On 12/4/2010 at 5:05 PM, Boxing Day said:

You have to be someone special to make something worth listening using software , you need to think outside the box with these softwares because they are specially design to make shit tiesto music.

 

you are obviously not a special man i guess!!

 

 

Few people are , all of they are getting paid good money for it.

bad music is too easy to make. Anything good has only to do with the brain behind the tools