the revolution in egypt: mubarak resigns

I'm seeing quite a lot of signs in English, which implies they wish to outreach to the western world.

islamic clusterfuck now complete

the end of an era and US influence in egypt

this is a game changer for Israel

i bet mossad is out right now training cadets by letting them shoot escaped egyptian convicts

shit has totally hit the fan

jails are being over run

serious islamic "terrorists" as well as rapists,murderers et al are escaping and or being shot on sight as they crawl back to gaza

the US state dept and the EU are advising all citizens to leave egypt ASAP

this is incredible on many levels and will have big repercussions on the entire region

  On 1/30/2011 at 12:42 PM, azatoth said:

Yeah, I don't really see the point in looting and messing up the museums. It's part of their cultural heritage, why would you want to ruin it? Dumbshits.

this always happens in riots/revolutions/revolts. New Orleans for instance. you always get a built up current of rage that is unleashed on things/people that have nothing to do with its origins.

  On 1/30/2011 at 4:32 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 1/30/2011 at 12:42 PM, azatoth said:

Yeah, I don't really see the point in looting and messing up the museums. It's part of their cultural heritage, why would you want to ruin it? Dumbshits.

 

 

this always happens in riots/revolutions/revolts. New Orleans for instance. you always get a built up current of rage that is unleashed on things/people that have nothing to do with its origins.

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7:38pm Ayman Mohyeldin reports that eyewitnesses have said "party thugs" associated with the Egyptian regime's Central Security Services - in plainclothes but bearing government-issued weapons - have been looting in Cairo. Ayman says the reports started off as isolated accounts but are now growing in number.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/29/live-blog-291-egypt-protests

i thought it was the muslim brotherhood

  On 1/30/2011 at 5:52 PM, Hoodie said:

  On 1/30/2011 at 4:32 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 1/30/2011 at 12:42 PM, azatoth said:

Yeah, I don't really see the point in looting and messing up the museums. It's part of their cultural heritage, why would you want to ruin it? Dumbshits.

 

 

this always happens in riots/revolutions/revolts. New Orleans for instance. you always get a built up current of rage that is unleashed on things/people that have nothing to do with its origins.

 

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7:38pm Ayman Mohyeldin reports that eyewitnesses have said "party thugs" associated with the Egyptian regime's Central Security Services - in plainclothes but bearing government-issued weapons - have been looting in Cairo. Ayman says the reports started off as isolated accounts but are now growing in number.

 

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/29/live-blog-291-egypt-protests

look, i understand that the governments implicit in these movements do try underhanded tactics to affect media perception....but you can't seriously tell me that governments are the only groups of people in turbulent climate that wreck shit for no reason.

i mean shit, look at the soccer riots, and that shit ain't even political.

  On 1/30/2011 at 9:51 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 1/30/2011 at 5:52 PM, Hoodie said:

  On 1/30/2011 at 4:32 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 1/30/2011 at 12:42 PM, azatoth said:

Yeah, I don't really see the point in looting and messing up the museums. It's part of their cultural heritage, why would you want to ruin it? Dumbshits.

 

 

this always happens in riots/revolutions/revolts. New Orleans for instance. you always get a built up current of rage that is unleashed on things/people that have nothing to do with its origins.

 

  Quote

7:38pm Ayman Mohyeldin reports that eyewitnesses have said "party thugs" associated with the Egyptian regime's Central Security Services - in plainclothes but bearing government-issued weapons - have been looting in Cairo. Ayman says the reports started off as isolated accounts but are now growing in number.

 

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/29/live-blog-291-egypt-protests

 

 

look, i understand that the governments implicit in these movements do try underhanded tactics to affect media perception....but you can't seriously tell me that governments are the only groups of people in turbulent climate that wreck shit for no reason.

 

i mean shit, look at the soccer riots, and that shit ain't even political.

no, no, i understand. i'm just pointing out that it's not entirely the fault of the protestors because people are spewing their retarded "lol muslims r violent" viewpoints and trying to undermine the bravery of these people by making their passion look like some primitive belligerence. it only takes one asshole to destroy a priceless artifact--but we can't forget the hundreds of protestors that linked arms around the cairo museum to protect it.

i've seen the whole Tahrir square running after one snatcher for much less

Yeah, my coworker was telling me that she read that there is a lot of suspicion about the artifact looting, and that a lot of people believe its a dirty government tactic to make the protesters look bad.

every time i see videos like this it makes me realize how americans are incapable of forming this kind of resistance against corruption.

FOX NEWS doesn't even know where Egypt is on a map.

Could this be shopped? I would totally believe that it wasn't.

it's real but its a year old

  On 1/31/2011 at 12:36 AM, Awepittance said:

every time i see videos like this it makes me realize how americans are incapable of forming this kind of resistance against corruption.

waah? cmon. If the US decays to the point where it resembles Egypt, i suspect people will revolt.

there is always a breaking point... the thing is, you don't want it to get that bad for change to happen. you want progress, not regress.

i think the US is so indoctrinated/obsessed with its own apparent superiority over everything else on earth that it will take nothing short of catastrophic unemployment, starvation, and outright dictatorial moves by the govt.

im cynical though.....the media stranglehold over people in this country is much more efficient than most give credit for.

as Chomsky said, the US govt's use of propaganda is probably the most efficient and effective in all of history.

  On 1/31/2011 at 1:10 AM, lumpenprol said:

  On 1/31/2011 at 12:36 AM, Awepittance said:

every time i see videos like this it makes me realize how americans are incapable of forming this kind of resistance against corruption.

 

waah? cmon. If the US decays to the point where it resembles Egypt, i suspect people will revolt.

That's the thing - the standard of living is so high in the US that even when crazy shit like full-body scanners and deep anal probes at airports get put into place people just kid of shrug. It's gonna take something incredibly fucked like all the banks failing and not getting bailed out, plus some real martial law.

it'd be awesome to see a bunch of obese people revolt. Like those black friday sales videos, except with tear gas, fire hoses, and molotov cocktails. Imagine watching the jet from a fire hose roll some obese person across the ground

what chen said is pretty much in line with what im saying.

also, i think ultimately if something that serious did effect the US populace, I don't think it would automatically result in some sort of unified revolt out of similar lots in life....i can definitely see something akin to a second civil war occurring...though not necessarily in a manner commonly befitting the Western worlds' idea of a civil war...

case in point, think about all of the Red state Palin supporters that claim to be against big government but support incredible amounts of spending towards a war machine while at the same time stockpiling guns and fueling the paranoia that "the liberals" are out to get them.

Add that to economic chaos and their being disgruntled (which honestly is probably far more telling of what will happen then others affected, they have most of the anger, are easily manipulated and angry at the rest of the "leftist" populace AND armed...sometimes with militia/military experience...i could easily see an inter-bloodbath

and I dont think that would end well for anyone not in that camp already....the odds of them siding with a government to impose some sort of pseudo-fascist theocracy seems more likely than most other ends.

i actually know a ton of people around where i live, one in particular openly told me that if there was a civil war brewing, id be one of the first to be shot because my idealism and "elitist nonsense" threatens their right to life and their own beliefs.

maybe that seems overblown, but its enough to be disturbing that a colleague and many others nearby with a like mindset sincerely believe that non-Tea Party supporters need to die.

  On 1/31/2011 at 3:54 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

i think the US is so indoctrinated/obsessed with its own apparent superiority over everything else on earth that it will take nothing short of catastrophic unemployment, starvation, and outright dictatorial moves by the govt.

 

as Chomsky said, the US govt's use of propaganda is probably the most efficient and effective in all of history.

couldn't agree more, it's almost miraculous just how corrupt of a country we've become and how acquiescent we are to it. if you just take singularly our percentage of our own population in prison for example. We rank #1 in the world above Iran and China, you will only hear the term 'prison industrial complex' or reforming our prison system from 'extremely left radical' public figures and writers. pretty sad but true

and lumpenprol if you have hope for American's will to revolt if shit gets really bad, i think you've just been away from America too long

a good thing to get away from the ignorance for a little bit but it's all too easy to forget just dumb america is.

see, i cant even call it dumb anymore. if you are willing to ignore reality, thats what it is...id imagine for a while it would require an immense effort....

funny now that most people say i spend too much time in lala land.....

edit: in reply to awepittance

eh, people are people, same needs and desires, you can't get dumber no matter how much you try (and sadly education doesn't make you smarter, only arguably more civilized). Push people too much and they'll push back. I also disagree when it comes to framing things as "the US govt has the best propaganda machine in history." Seems a lot of the "propaganda" is simply supply and demand, telling people what they want to hear (eg Fox news..of course I realize this is a kind of feedback loop). If we fall hard, it'll be because we've been complicit in our own downfall. Which I guess the Germans were too, but the difference is our "propaganda" is some weird fusion of big business influencing both popular sentiment and elected officials, lowest-common-denominator pandering, celebrity, the desire for gladiatorial spectacle, etc etc.

There will be no revolt. Just slow and steady decay.