LimpyLoo Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I think jail sentences are usually just too long in general. 20 years is just so fucking long. 10 years is a huge amount of time. Think of where you were 10 years ago. Think of spending all that time in prison. Maybe he deserves it, I don't know. If the point is to punish him, then 10 years is plenty. If the point is to protect society from this guy, then maybe 20 years makes sense. I dunno. What do you guys think about prison sentences? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 On 5/1/2011 at 1:44 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said: you are friend Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Why did he do it? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 because the pariah told him so Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 On 1/11/2014 at 10:47 AM, xxx said: The problem is that calls for long term psychiatric care have only one answer: where? Hospitald like that do not exist in America anymore. Prisons have become the de facto psych institutions. It begins in youth detention, progresses on to warehouse child/adolescent hospitals with protocols of off-label, dangerous antipsychotic meds, then prison. Profits are untold. The "offender" loses in every way. yep. good ol' USA! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitze Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Quote Investigators say Prebe told them "he intended to kill" Terry Butler, who is African-American, because he thought he was a terrorist. This junkyard dawg looks like Sam Worthington with kidney dialysis. I hope they shave his balls in jail. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 You can try to be funny I realize I opened myself up for that, but let's remember he is a real person and I hope no one wishes him harm. He needs psychiatric help I agree an I hope he's separated from general population as that story received a lot of coverage in Florida, and there could be reprisals in prison for trying to kill a black man. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 20 years seems stupid for somebody who is "mentally ill". Someone I knew got killed by being hit in the head with a hammer, offender got 3 years. I really don't get it?? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide spratters's signature Hide all signatures Jet fuel can't melt dank memes Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenton Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 On 4/30/2011 at 6:03 PM, thehauntingsoul said: I wonder when someone I knew from high school is going to be implicated in a murder or attempted murder case. It's no fun, when it happened to me, they saw that he had called me the night of the murder [called me to ask for a number for coke, was maybe the only time he had ever rang me and I hardly knew him] and arrested me and confiscated my computers and phone for 9 months. They also raided the coke dealers house. Needless to say the coke dealer was very angry, the murderous friend got 17 years and I got 2 days off work to be a witness in court, with my totally cool 'he rang me to ask for a number to buy coke' story which no-one believed. So hopefully no-one you know will really kill someone, just in case they phone you that night. tl;dr: Barking Murder Squad don't have the power to retrieve cell phone logs and failed to bruteforce my 6 letter macbook password. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide fenton's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWwIShuoX4 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:10 AM, SR4 said: dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. If you had a brain tumor pressing on your prefrontal cortex and you assaulted someone...should you be given a normal jail sentence? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:13 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:10 AM, SR4 said: dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. If you had a brain tumor pressing on your prefrontal cortex and you assaulted someone...should you be given a normal jail sentence? Yes?! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:13 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:10 AM, SR4 said: dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. If you had a brain tumor pressing on your prefrontal cortex and you assaulted someone...should you be given a normal jail sentence? im just saying that everyone should be considered equally under the law. the mentally ill pose no threat until we cause them to. i think that the mentally ill should get a jail sentence of only 90 days, because its mostly our fault anyway. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:17 AM, Friendly Foil said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:13 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:10 AM, SR4 said: dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. If you had a brain tumor pressing on your prefrontal cortex and you assaulted someone...should you be given a normal jail sentence? Yes?! Umm what? Why? If your body was possessed by an evil spirit and it went around hurting people, and then it left...should you go to jail? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:22 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:17 AM, Friendly Foil said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:13 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:10 AM, SR4 said: dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. If you had a brain tumor pressing on your prefrontal cortex and you assaulted someone...should you be given a normal jail sentence? Yes?! Umm what? Why? If your body was possessed by an evil spirit and it went around hurting people, and then it left...should you go to jail? Yes?! You still hurt people. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:23 AM, Friendly Foil said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:22 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:17 AM, Friendly Foil said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:13 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:10 AM, SR4 said: dude the USA is fucked up. if we really want to respect mentally ill people, we should give them 90 day sentences no matter what they do. its the only way to be fair. If you had a brain tumor pressing on your prefrontal cortex and you assaulted someone...should you be given a normal jail sentence? Yes?! Umm what? Why? If your body was possessed by an evil spirit and it went around hurting people, and then it left...should you go to jail? Yes?! You still hurt people. That is the most insane thing I've ever heard. I'm fucking speechless. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I won. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Really sad that people don't understand mental illness...or generally how the brain works. Or the concept of agency and decision-making and responsibility. So like, if you're a narcoleptic and you fall asleep while you're walking and you smash your head on someone's toe and break it...should you be charged with assault? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 "Or the concept of agency and decision-making and responsibility." So that part only applies to sane/healthy people or what? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Pretty sure most people are aware of the whole "guilty mind"-concept to be honest. I am, but I just don't agree with it. This thread has been going nowhere since the beginning anyway, so *leaves thread, waits for "yea u do dat m8, u so stoopid and ignorant"* Edited January 13, 2014 by Friendly Foil Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:36 AM, Friendly Foil said: Pretty sure most people are aware of the whole "guilty mind"-concept to be honest. I am, but I just don't agree with it. Mental illness only plays into this debate to the extent that it might affect mens rea. The same with a brain tumor. I honestly can't believe you are saying what are are saying. I'm tempted to throw more hypotheticals at you but frankly I'm scared of hearing your answers. Well since mens rea doesn't matter, if some suicidal person were to jump in front of Friendly Foil's car then I guess yeah he should go to jail for murder, right? That makes sense. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:45 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:36 AM, Friendly Foil said: Pretty sure most people are aware of the whole "guilty mind"-concept to be honest. I am, but I just don't agree with it. Mental illness only plays into this debate to the extent that it might affect mens rea. The same with a brain tumor. I honestly can't believe you are saying what are are saying. I'm tempted to throw more hypotheticals at you but frankly I'm scared of hearing your answers. Well since mens rea doesn't matter, if some suicidal person were to jump in front of Friendly Foil's car then I guess yeah he should go to jail for murder, right? That makes sense. dude you are probably an atheist arent you LOL, I cannot even begin...honestly, lets just leave it at this. spirituality is better than you. and mental illness deserves 90 days. spend a few days wrapping your small brain around this. then come back to me and foil and try to make a cohesive argument plzkthxbye #spiritualanti-atheiststheyaredogshitstupid *tips fedora* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Quick idea: whenever you're tired at work, just tell you've got a sudden mental illness. 90days holiday, all-inclusive and the tax payer pays. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitze Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On 1/13/2014 at 7:23 AM, Friendly Foil said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:22 AM, LimpyLoo said: On 1/13/2014 at 7:17 AM, Friendly Foil said: Umm what? Why? If your body was possessed by an evil spirit and it went around hurting people, and then it left...should you go to jail? Yes?! You still hurt people. Negative. At the end of Insidious Josh strangles Lin Shaye to death while possessed by the evil spirit of Parker Crane. Then at the start of Insidious 2 the police suspect Josh but can't find any DNA evidence on Lin Shaye's corpse. So it would appear that when a soul is possessed it retains the form of the host physically, but all the DNA/fingerprints of the possessor. A possessed person isn't accountable for their actions at all. It was the same for Regan when she put Burke Dennings and Father Karras through her bedroom window. Although she was a suspect, they couldn't find any DNA on the corpses so you see her drive off at the end with no memory of what had happened. It leaves the police with a lot of paperwork to fill out. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/65815-my-friend-tried-to-kill-someone-with-his-truck/page/3/#findComment-2114944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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