stupid first world problems you're dealing with

  On 12/16/2017 at 11:14 AM, ignatius said:

cast iron is the shit!  for so many things.. that good scald on potatoes... eggs, stir fry.. fucking pancakes... 

 

screw that non stick stuff. i don't want to be in the next erin brokavich movie for cancer in the water. hexavalent chromium it's what' kids need. 

 

that's what dupont tefal, teflon and all those non stick chemicals are.. and they chip and stuff. fuck that. a good cast iron pan will last for generations. and they season up so well. 

 

dupont is currently dealing w/court cases for stuff in the water from non stick pans.. that shit breaks down on the pan eventually and you eat it.. all you get from cooking w/cast iron is a bit of iron in your food and it's good for you. 

 

I felt similarly for a while. I'm skeptical that Teflon is actually harmful though. They are not very durable anyway, which I found annoying. 

One day in Walmart, of all places, I found a pan I thought was interesting. It's made of shot peened steel. They blast the pan surface with tiny metal beads which give it a bumpy surface that looks like a rock, but somehow manages to prevent sticking. It does a fairly good job as a non-stick pan, and you can use metal utensils on it. So far, it has held up to abuse and continues to do so. 

Do you remember the brand by chance?

  On 12/16/2017 at 6:43 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

Do you remember the brand by chance?

 

Yeah they are The Rock series pans by a company called Starfrit. I was hesitant to try them at first because not many people know about them yet. Been using mine for almost a year now and i've been quite impressed. In some cases, the non-stick surface is not as effective as a brand new Teflon coating. This is a very minor problem though considering how durable the thing is. I use a heavy metal spatula on it constantly and it withstands the abuse. I really like that it's just old fashioned steel, but shot peened. There's no coatings or chemical processes involved in manufacturing them.

 

 

^^ The 10" I use. I also have a deep well 12" model that is a little more expensive, but much larger. It fits a lot of food because of the angle on the sidewalls.

 

Here's an example of what the steel surface looks like:

 

 

Except the dimples are a lot more dense/smaller. The beads it is blasted with must be very tiny. 

Edited December 16, 2017 by agaricus

is flax seed oil good for seasoning cast iron? 

I think flaxseed oil is one of the recommended oils yeah

people with well disguised problems, with a wife & a nipper to look after, jumping off Avon Gorge 2 weeks b4 christmas

 

4th suicide of olde sound system crews in the last 18months, can people pls seek help or talk? not when their Dr repeatedly refuses to take someone's problems seriously

 

male suicides are 1 of society's taboos & yet mental health care is an international travesty, ffs there has to be another way

Coming to terms with the knowing that the new Star Wars movie is utter shite.

 

Deep breaths. Hopefully I have the will to go on.

  On 12/16/2017 at 9:17 PM, cwmbrancity said:

people with well disguised problems, with a wife & a nipper to look after, jumping off Avon Gorge 2 weeks b4 christmas

 

4th suicide of olde sound system crews in the last 18months, can people pls seek help or talk? not when their Dr repeatedly refuses to take someone's problems seriously

 

male suicides are 1 of society's taboos & yet mental health care is an international travesty, ffs there has to be another way

 

I was thinking about this today (I think about it every day).

 

mental health issues, far from being unusual or taboo, should be recognised for how normal and common they are. depression in particular. it is a normal reaction to observe the state of the world and the terms & conditions of existence (namely, that you can't really change anything and you're only here for a blink anyway) and, if you're somebody who has any empathy or cares about the common good, to become depressed about it. it's a human reaction. what matters is how you deal with that, not stigmatising negative thoughts as abnormal and outside of the ordinary human experience. we should instill in society the basic understanding that accepting your bad thoughts and dealing with them appropriately makes you a far stronger person than just trying (and failing) to aim for some constant bland positivity all throughout your life. edit: and this should be reflected in our institutions, especially in places of employment - people's mental health issues should be on the agenda in terms of professional development, not neglected by idiot managers as "that's for you to deal with, I just manage your work".

 

normies who emphasise mindless positivity and repress their issues are the biggest nutters out there, and are often the ones who will trample on others/behave unethically to get what they want.

Edited December 17, 2017 by usagi

You need to do something about those curtains StephenG.

  On 12/17/2017 at 12:03 PM, Gocab said:

You need to do something about those curtains StephenG.

 

lol they are pretty bad hey? Never really bothered me but now that I look at them... ugh

  On 12/17/2017 at 11:45 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 12/16/2017 at 9:17 PM, cwmbrancity said:

people with well disguised problems, with a wife & a nipper to look after, jumping off Avon Gorge 2 weeks b4 christmas

 

4th suicide of olde sound system crews in the last 18months, can people pls seek help or talk? not when their Dr repeatedly refuses to take someone's problems seriously

 

male suicides are 1 of society's taboos & yet mental health care is an international travesty, ffs there has to be another way

 

I was thinking about this today (I think about it every day).

 

mental health issues, far from being unusual or taboo, should be recognised for how normal and common they are. depression in particular. it is a normal reaction to observe the state of the world and the terms & conditions of existence (namely, that you can't really change anything and you're only here for a blink anyway) and, if you're somebody who has any empathy or cares about the common good, to become depressed about it. it's a human reaction. what matters is how you deal with that, not stigmatising negative thoughts as abnormal and outside of the ordinary human experience. we should instill in society the basic understanding that accepting your bad thoughts and dealing with them appropriately makes you a far stronger person than just trying (and failing) to aim for some constant bland positivity all throughout your life. edit: and this should be reflected in our institutions, especially in places of employment - people's mental health issues should be on the agenda in terms of professional development, not neglected by idiot managers as "that's for you to deal with, I just manage your work".

 

normies who emphasise mindless positivity and repress their issues are the biggest nutters out there, and are often the ones who will trample on others/behave unethically to get what they want.

 

Not to get too personal, but an all too familiar example is when my own step brother took the "shortcut" three years ago. Granted it was partly combat PTSD related, but he concealed his suffering pretty well.

 

Oddly enough, I was right at the age that he left when I had my own depression episode in early July 2016. But I made a promise to those close to me not to opt out early. But it was also a very uncertain year with a lot of anxiety for everyone.

 

 

Anyway, my advice is if you're suffering from depression too, it's best to bring it out in the open.

  On 12/17/2017 at 12:03 PM, Gocab said:

You need to do something about those curtains StephenG.

Hahahah!

new fwp

 

the curtains in my kitchen are terrible and I'm self conscious about them 

 

edit: a quick google search for "mega masculine high testosterone non frilly lady curtains" didn't give me many good options. 

Edited December 17, 2017 by Bulk VanderHooj

Hahaha, sorry, man... but worry not. My entire kitchen was purple for about 7 years before I hired someone to paint it over.

  On 12/16/2017 at 7:22 PM, zaphod said:

is flax seed oil good for seasoning cast iron?

No. You want an oil with a high smoke point, as seasoning is done at a high temperature.

Peanut oil, sunflower oil both work well.

=/

 

You want an oil with a low smoke point. That's how it polymerizes and seasons the pan....

 

oh wait, nevermind. that would be bad wouldn't it?

 

 

 

why am I reading two very opposite things online? >.<

 

edit: looks like there is no real consensus on oils to season with. Some sites advocate low smoke point oils and others, high smoke point. I'm more confused now than before.

Edited December 17, 2017 by Bulk VanderHooj

  On 12/16/2017 at 9:17 PM, cwmbrancity said:

people with well disguised problems, with a wife & a nipper to look after, jumping off Avon Gorge 2 weeks b4 christmas

 

4th suicide of olde sound system crews in the last 18months, can people pls seek help or talk? not when their Dr repeatedly refuses to take someone's problems seriously

 

male suicides are 1 of society's taboos & yet mental health care is an international travesty, ffs there has to be another way

you're doing a really good job helping already, i hope you know that :)

 

and not just men that need to seek the help. we can all do what we can to get everyone into a better. i think that's a good focus for 2018. i got some cracks appearing in the minds of people in my olde sound system crew too. gonna check them at xmas and make sure people know that they're not alone or weird

 

watmmers, if you are in any kind of senior/influence role in life start getting your crew/team to have a good old public "lol let's talk about mental health' ... i think there's a lot of people hiding stuff + that causes more lies + that causes more and more. and then we die.

or ... no, you don't need to be senior, you can get it started from the bottom too. fuck the matrix

homeless again, feeling embarassed more than anything really to still be repeating this pattern closer to 30 than 20

hoping this will be the push i need to finally leave the empty life i live in this city & go out & explore the world & make something of my life beyond "quiet guy who makes a lot of ambient albums". kind of a pain that it's happening in december on the verge of months of true cold rather than say march, but thats the way the cookie tears

  On 12/17/2017 at 10:55 PM, Bulk VanderHooj said:

=/

 

You want an oil with a low smoke point. That's how it polymerizes and seasons the pan....

 

oh wait, nevermind. that would be bad wouldn't it?

 

 

 

why am I reading two very opposite things online? >.

 

edit: looks like there is no real consensus on oils to season with. Some sites advocate low smoke point oils and others, high smoke point. I'm more confused now than before.

High temperature to season the pan. Unless you want the smoke to fill your house and infiltrate into the pan itself...

 

There is another way to season the pan, but it takes all day.

 

And I can’t remember who posted, but if you take care of your Teflon pan, it should last around a decade with all of its non-stick properties. Not as long as a cast-iron, but they serve different purposes. And cast iron pans, while they’re fantastic (I own two, one enameled, one not), are not the same as a good non-stick for cooking that requires a non-stick pan.

Different tools for different jobs and all that.

From what I read, using oil with a low smoke point for seasoning will smoke your house out during the seasoning process, but the stuff left behind in the pan/that becomes part of the pan, stands up to high heat much better and needs less care? This is my first foray into cast iron, so only going off the interwebs. Sounds like there are a few diff ways to do it? I'll try both ways and see how she goes!

 

I'll live and learn! :P

 

Happy holidays btw hope you and the fam-jam have a good Christmas and new years and all that. 

Edited December 18, 2017 by Bulk VanderHooj

A far less serious FWP: I'm about to go on holiday/vaycay but my flight departs @ 5 AM. So I need to wake up hella early. Consuming a caffeinated beverage in the evening probably wasn't the wisest course of action.

i just remembered i posted about a pan on the internet. 

  On 12/17/2017 at 10:18 PM, Squee said:

Hahaha, sorry, man... but worry not. My entire kitchen was purple for about 7 years before I hired someone to paint it over.

You just reminded me about the gross purple in my hallway that I've slowly become insensitive to over the last 6 years. What kind of monster paints a wall purple?

  On 12/18/2017 at 6:14 AM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 12/17/2017 at 10:18 PM, Squee said:

Hahaha, sorry, man... but worry not. My entire kitchen was purple for about 7 years before I hired someone to paint it over.

You just reminded me about the gross purple in my hallway that I've slowly become insensitive to over the last 6 years. What kind of monster paints a wall purple?

 

  On 12/17/2017 at 11:45 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 12/16/2017 at 9:17 PM, cwmbrancity said:

people with well disguised problems, with a wife & a nipper to look after, jumping off Avon Gorge 2 weeks b4 christmas

 

4th suicide of olde sound system crews in the last 18months, can people pls seek help or talk? not when their Dr repeatedly refuses to take someone's problems seriously

 

male suicides are 1 of society's taboos & yet mental health care is an international travesty, ffs there has to be another way

 

I was thinking about this today (I think about it every day).

 

mental health issues, far from being unusual or taboo, should be recognised for how normal and common they are. depression in particular. it is a normal reaction to observe the state of the world and the terms & conditions of existence (namely, that you can't really change anything and you're only here for a blink anyway) and, if you're somebody who has any empathy or cares about the common good, to become depressed about it. it's a human reaction. what matters is how you deal with that, not stigmatising negative thoughts as abnormal and outside of the ordinary human experience. we should instill in society the basic understanding that accepting your bad thoughts and dealing with them appropriately makes you a far stronger person than just trying (and failing) to aim for some constant bland positivity all throughout your life. edit: and this should be reflected in our institutions, especially in places of employment - people's mental health issues should be on the agenda in terms of professional development, not neglected by idiot managers as "that's for you to deal with, I just manage your work".

 

normies who emphasise mindless positivity and repress their issues are the biggest nutters out there, and are often the ones who will trample on others/behave unethically to get what they want.

 

 

 

i'm not quite sure how the Australian healthcare system works, but here its a fkn disgrace, the same thing would never be allowed to fester with cancer care, HIIV, or palliative care, yet the demographics show a sustained bias toward males mainly within an age range >44 that result in consistent fatalities

 

its just all the unknowns such an outcome as someone walking off a cliff throws up & for the family even more so

 

i've seen how effed up mental health care can be trying to access help for ptsd for years unsuccessfully, so theres an iceberg of untreated people continuing to stumble thru, being lied to because the system cant cope or is illusory to begin with in some areas

 

as males, we're expected to get the fk on with it, whether theres a problem or not, because society's workhorses can handle it, until they cant & the organism cracks

 

finding help can be as difficult as realizing help is actually needed & with this specific bloke he spent far too long being rebuffed by his GP (general practitioner)