Michelle Bachman is an evil cunt

With the talk about "robots" killing people.... Every UAV is still piloted or at least monitored by a human. This is a current requirement with the US military (they actually just created a whole new "career choice" just last year just for Drone Pilots http://www.popsci.co...t-career-choice ) Second, we're only going to see more and more remotely piloted vehicles in the coming future as the tech gets cheaper. The US is already teaming up the Military with civilians through a system named UAVForge. Nice article about this stuff too http://www.fastcompa...d-future-of-war Does that make any of it right? Not necessarily, but machines, robots, and remote vehicles are all very real in current and future wars.

i think its a ridiculously bad path to get started down, that's for sure.

i remember hearing somewhere that they pretty much designed those UAVs to be controlled like a video game, with an xbox controller

which is kind of disturbing

hey kids! come play REAL video games with us! and KILL people! first we'll put you through a psychological training program where we will brainwash you and teach you to hate unequivocally anyone who threatens our way of life, then VIDEO GAMES!

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:41 AM, karmakramer said:

not that I am condoning military force, but this article is from a journalist whose actually gone to the Taliban controlled areas of Pakistan:

 

http://www.dailytime..._2-1-2010_pg3_5

 

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  On 8/16/2011 at 3:05 AM, usagi said:

  On 8/15/2011 at 5:13 PM, jefferoo said:

 

where the fuck is she looking

right through your skull, into your brain, and directly into the core of your amygdala. she SQUEEZES your amygdala as she bores down on you with that manic grin, mad with power.

Clearly (I think) Awepittance is trying to dispel the mindset that Obama is in the good (even if only by comparison) merely because he has a nicer and smarter sounding rhetoric than his republican counterparts. I'd say that it's very hard to argue against that because the solution to all the shit seems crystal clear to anyone who can see why people like Bachman are batshit insane; simply grab your balls and end all this wars and killing that Americans don't even benefit from, and while anyone can come up with tons of excuses like "he's tied by the military-industrial complex, coorporate agendas and games of power so he can't accomplish much too quick" it still translates into he's not changing anything and doesn't show a good strong will to do so. i think he's right and most people tend to just put faith on Obama without any real reason to do so, merely hope talking.

Arguing about Obama in a thread about Michelle Bachman is like posting a thread about Pantera in the BOC subforum. Just sayin.

i guess it depends on your religious views, then !!

  On 8/16/2011 at 5:54 AM, hahathhat said:

i guess it depends on your religious views, then !!

"Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry aren't just devout—both have deep ties to a fringe fundamentalist movement known as Dominionism, which says Christians should rule the world."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/14/dominionism-michele-bachmann-and-rick-perry-s-dangerous-religious-bond.html

  On 8/15/2011 at 2:08 PM, viscosity said:

the only question I have though.. what's the evolutionary purpose of homosexuality?

seeing homosexuals as spiritual beings with free will just like you, and seeing all separating belief systems as programs that need to be shed through unity consciousness and unconditional love for all other sentient beings, their unique take on consciousness, and the manner in which they express it in this grand divine comedy we all chose to incarnate into.

mustard and snooker, nice combination...

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sick.

we don't know that bachmann won't get elected. people have really gotten that dumb.

i don't know if the seemingly retarded evil bachman is better than corporate controlling smart evil of many other politicians, but i think many here are aware of the long history of exploitation from every western power. this is more of the same, albeit more tech savvy, using internets and cgi news for propagandas, and robots to smite foreign people.

i used to think that in time, more humans (eventually the majority) would be rational thinkers, but i no longer believe that. corporate control and ignorance is too easy.

The mere fact that a nutcase like Bachmann is talked about as a possible nominee for the Presidency is telling about the sorry state of the US. In Europe a candidate like her would be laughed at and rightfully ignored, not making headlines in major news outlets. Of course there are nutcases like her in Europe, but very rarely are they looked as legit candidates for any prominent roles in a government.

maybe now it's unfiltered, but i really really don't think the internet is going to remain an impartial informational vehicle. soon enough net neutrality will happen. hopefully not next year, but i'd be really surprised if some form of it doesn't happen in 15-20 years.

i see it everyday in america though, so many people simply do not have the will to learn. even with the amount of information on the internet, people still decide to watch jersey shore. knowledge and rational thinking play 2nd fiddle to veiny biceps, fake tans and fake tits. this is not the climate for a surge of rational thinkers.

  On 8/16/2011 at 3:46 PM, theSun said:

maybe now it's unfiltered, but i really really don't think the internet is going to remain an impartial informational vehicle. soon enough net neutrality will happen. hopefully not next year, but i'd be really surprised if some form of it doesn't happen in 15-20 years.

 

i see it everyday in america though, so many people simply do not have the will to learn. even with the amount of information on the internet, people still decide to watch jersey shore. knowledge and rational thinking play 2nd fiddle to veiny biceps, fake tans and fake tits. this is not the climate for a surge of rational thinkers.

Yeah, well also humans are tribal creatures who not too long ago believed it was 'ok' to kill anyone who disagreed with them. Many people just believe whatever their friends believe because they want to fit in. That and after all, telling your friend 'you are wrong' is insulting your friend and being a major buzz-kill even if s/he is wrong. Seriously, if one's friends love to get all worked up while equating fascism, socialism, communism and the 'mass loony left conspiracy' to manage this planet's limited energy resources, most are going to go along with it and get all worked up rather than taking five minutes on the internet to research what those words actually mean and question their friends. All this while driving along their publicly-funded roads, praising their publicly-funded military, etc

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Perhaps the worst outcome of the protracted obsession with presidential campaigns is how it intensifies partisan tribalism, and bolsters divisions among ordinary Americans who have far more in common than differences. I recall a conversation I had early on in the Obama presidency with a civil libertarian; at the time, progressives were rarely critical of the new President, but because civil liberties was the very first area where he so blatantly embraced Bush policies and revealed how he truly operates, that was the one area where harsh criticisms were somewhat common. I suggested in that conversation that the trend of progressive criticism of Obama would be expressed by an inverted "U": it would continuously increase as the Real Obama revealed himself in more and more areas of prime importance to progressives, and then would decline precipitously -- more or less back to its original levels -- as the 2012 election approached. I think that's being roughly borne out.

Because presidential elections are such a stark either/or affair, many people feel compelled to choose one side and then elevate its victory into the overarching -- even the only -- political priority that matters. For that reason, even those willing to criticize their own side's Leader a couple of years before the election become unwilling to do so as the election approaches, on the ground that nothing matters except boosting one's own team and undermining the other. That, in tun, further reduces the already-low levels of independence, intellectual honesty, and -- most importantly -- accountability for those in power.

Those depressing, destructive trends are exacerbated by the manipulative fear-mongering that drives these campaigns. Every four years, The Other Side is turned into the evil spawn of Adolf Hitler and Osama bin Laden. Each and every election cycle, each party claims that -- unlike in the past, when Responsible Moderates ruled and the "crazies" and radicals were relegated to the fringes (the Democrats were once the Party of Truman!; Ronald Reagan was a compromising moderate!) -- the other party has now been taken over by the extremists, making it More Dangerous Than Ever Before. That the Other Side is now ruled by Supreme Evil-Doers means that anything other than full-scale fealty to their defeat is viewed as heresy. Defeat of the Real Enemy is the only acceptable goal. Election-time partisan loyalty becomes the ultimate Litmus Test of whether you're on the side of Good: it's the supreme With-Us-or-With-the-Terrorists test, and few are willing to endure the punishments for failing it. It's an enforcement mechanism for Party loyalty that -- by design -- breeds slavish partisan fealty.

None of this has anything to do with reality. For as long as I can remember, Republicans-- every election cycle -- have insisted that the Democratic Party has "now become more radical than ever," while Democrats insist that the GOP has now -- for the first time ever! -- been taken over by the extremists. That was what was said when Ronald Reagan was nominated in 1980 and then appointed people like Ed Messe, James Watt, and Robert Bork; it's what was said with the rise of the Moral Majority and Pat Robertson's 1988 second-place finish in the Iowa caucus (ahead of Vice President George H.W. Bush); it's what was said of the 1994 Contract with America and the Gingrich-led GOP's impeachment of Bill Clinton, and was repeated after Pat Buchanan's 1992 "culture and religious war" Convention speech in Houston and again after Buchanan's 1996 victory in the New Hampshire primary; and it's what was said repeatedly throughout the Bush/Cheney presidency.

Yes, some of the leading GOP presidential candidates (Bachmann, Perry) are truly extreme -- -but no more so than was Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, or (in his own way) Pat Buchanan. Jesse Helms was the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and all but threatened Bill Clinton's life. The GOP is extreme now and has been extreme for 30 years. The "Tea Party" is little more than a rebranding of conservatism in the post-Bush age. That they're MORE EXTREME THAN EVER!! is a fear-mongering slogan -- hauled out every four years -- to cause Democrats to forget about, or willfully ignore, their own leader's glaring, gaping failures.

The reality is that both parties' voters, early on in the process, like to flirt with candidates who present themselves as ideologues, but ultimately choose establishment-approved, establishment-serving functionaries perceived as electable (e.g., the Democrats' 2004 rejection of Dean in favor of Kerry, the GOP's 2008 embrace of the "maverick" McCain). In those rare instances when they nominate someone perceived as outside the establishment mainstream (Goldwater, McGovern), those candidates are quickly destroyed. The two-party system and these presidential campaigns are virtually guaranteed -- by design -- to produce palatable faces who perpetuate the status quo, placate the citizenry, and dutifully serve the nation's most powerful factions.

They can have some differences -- they'll have genuinely different views on social issues and widely disparate cultural brands (the urbane, sophisticated, East Coast elite intellectual v. the down-home, swaggering, Southern/Texan evangelical) -- but the process ensures a convergence to establishment homogeneity. The winner-takes-all, Most-Important-Election-Ever hysteria that precedes it masks that reality, creating the illusion of fundamentally stark choices. That's what makes the 18 months of screeching, divisive, petty, trivial rancor so absurd, so distracting, so distorting. Yes, it matters in some important ways who wins and sits in the Oval Office chair, but there are things that matter much, much more than that -- all of which are suffocated into non-existence by the endless, mind-numbing election circus.

  On 8/16/2011 at 12:43 AM, disparaissant said:

no, i'm just ignoring it when you put words into my mouth. there's a difference. :)

you're the one who wanted to bring up Hitler, lol, not i.

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:12 PM, sisforawesome said:

not only is that a brilliant idea, but it's superbly executed. i give this photoshop an 'A' for awesome !!

like your username.

  On 8/16/2011 at 6:54 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 12:43 AM, disparaissant said:

no, i'm just ignoring it when you put words into my mouth. there's a difference. :)

 

you're the one who wanted to bring up Hitler, lol, not i.

that was hyperbole and metaphor

basically you don't have a leg to stand on so you keep trying to say what i thought about bush or what i think about obama but its clear you have this blueprint in your head of what a typical liberal thinks on every issue but the fact is im not really a typical liberal at all. i actually agree with a lot of what you're saying here, but we can't just ignore someone because someone else is worse. that's fucking idiotic.

fucking idiotic

dont think i stressed how idiotic it is

Back to Bachman...I'd like to kick her square in the cunt and follow up with a donkey punch. What a stupid bitch.