New Warp Signing - My Best Fiend

Every indie band sounds the same nowadays wtf??

  On 1/6/2012 at 12:05 AM, oscillik said:

I suppose that one is probably a subjective thing? Where does the iddum spirit live on?

IDM became EDM about 6 years ago.

  On 1/6/2012 at 12:29 AM, YO303 said:

Every indie band sounds the same nowadays wtf??

They all seem to feature airy vocals.

You'd have airy vocals too in jeans like that.

this music does hurt my balls

This music is 'competent' but there's really nothing interesting going on. Getting a bit of a Brian Jonestown Massacre vibe off some of it, but it sounds very overproduced IMO.

Also, the song really didn't do enough to warrant a wall-of-sound finale like that.

warp isn't dead. in fact this year may bring new boc, clark and grizzly bear with ae waiting in the wings. could be a good year for warp.

  On 1/6/2012 at 12:05 AM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:46 PM, sirch said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:25 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:17 PM, Candiru said:

It's okay. Nothing to scoff at, but you'd think Warp would want to sign stuff that isn't generic. Since that's supposed to be their M.O.

 

their M.O. at the moment seems to be 'stay afloat'

 

let's be honest - IDM is dead, and has been for a long time. only a few stalwarts are putting stuff out on Warp that is regarded as IDM. the label has changed focus, and we're not the target audience anymore.

 

however, they're still mostly an electronic / experimental label, so wtf is this shit.

they really put out some odd stuff every now and again. and this isn't odd in a good (interesting) way.

they are, like you say, just trying to stay afloat and current, which for most electronic/experimental/IDM fans makes them shit.

I dunno...doesn't really seem that way to me, from my perspective. But that's just me.

 

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:59 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:25 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:17 PM, Candiru said:

It's okay. Nothing to scoff at, but you'd think Warp would want to sign stuff that isn't generic. Since that's supposed to be their M.O.

 

their M.O. at the moment seems to be 'stay afloat'

 

let's be honest - IDM is dead, and has been for a long time. only a few stalwarts are putting stuff out on Warp that is regarded as IDM. the label has changed focus, and we're not the target audience anymore.

 

IDM in name only is dead, it's spirit lives on

 

I suppose that one is probably a subjective thing? Where does the iddum spirit live on?

c'mon man you know where it lives on. and it does live on.

and i meant i do think warp are shit, too, for signing bands/acts/groups like this.

but business is business, i suppose.

surely they could survive off of BoC, Aphex, Plaid, Pusher and Ae releases every few years... but the material isn't always forthcoming and regular anymore. basically because they've all gotten older. and if warp was just all Ae, Aphex and IDM, etc., every year after year, then we'd/people would all eventually get bored of that... as a lot of people did already (?)

i still love it, tho. the good stuff anyway. :)

  On 1/6/2012 at 1:51 AM, Lucy Faringold said:

This music is 'competent' but there's really nothing interesting going on. Getting a bit of a Brian Jonestown Massacre vibe off some of it, but it sounds very overproduced IMO.

 

Also, the song really didn't do enough to warrant a wall-of-sound finale like that.

i didn't even get that far. wall of sound finale sounds better than the beginning at least...?

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:07 AM, jules said:

warp isn't dead. in fact this year may bring new boc, clark and grizzly bear with ae waiting in the wings. could be a good year for warp.

Oh I know Warp isn't dead, as is obvious by their more frequent new signings of late (which does seem to be much more regular than used to be the case). They're just catering to a different demographic now, since IDM seems to have...i dunno, kind of petered out.

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:22 AM, sirch said:

  On 1/6/2012 at 12:05 AM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:46 PM, sirch said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:25 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:17 PM, Candiru said:

It's okay. Nothing to scoff at, but you'd think Warp would want to sign stuff that isn't generic. Since that's supposed to be their M.O.

 

their M.O. at the moment seems to be 'stay afloat'

 

let's be honest - IDM is dead, and has been for a long time. only a few stalwarts are putting stuff out on Warp that is regarded as IDM. the label has changed focus, and we're not the target audience anymore.

 

however, they're still mostly an electronic / experimental label, so wtf is this shit.

they really put out some odd stuff every now and again. and this isn't odd in a good (interesting) way.

they are, like you say, just trying to stay afloat and current, which for most electronic/experimental/IDM fans makes them shit.

I dunno...doesn't really seem that way to me, from my perspective. But that's just me.

 

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:59 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:25 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:17 PM, Candiru said:

It's okay. Nothing to scoff at, but you'd think Warp would want to sign stuff that isn't generic. Since that's supposed to be their M.O.

 

their M.O. at the moment seems to be 'stay afloat'

 

let's be honest - IDM is dead, and has been for a long time. only a few stalwarts are putting stuff out on Warp that is regarded as IDM. the label has changed focus, and we're not the target audience anymore.

 

IDM in name only is dead, it's spirit lives on

 

I suppose that one is probably a subjective thing? Where does the iddum spirit live on?

 

c'mon man you know where it lives on. and it does live on.

 

and i meant i do think warp are shit, too, for signing bands/acts/groups like this.

but business is business, i suppose.

surely they could survive off of BoC, Aphex, Plaid, Pusher and Ae releases every few years... but the material isn't always forthcoming and regular anymore. basically because they've all gotten older. and if warp was just all Ae, Aphex and IDM, etc., every year after year, then we'd/people would all eventually get bored of that... as a lot of people did already (?)

i still love it, tho. the good stuff anyway. :)

no seriously, I don't know where it 'still lives on'. There's a few high profile artists still making and releasing stuff (and some that aren't releasing anything, but that's another discussion), and of course there is the massive amount of talent on sites such as WATMM. I dunno, maybe IDM or whatever you wanna call it has gone back to being a much more 'under the covers' kind of thing, since it lives on with the awesome guys and girls here and other places.

no you're right, i do know where it still lives on.

Warp has very definitely changed it's target demographic though. I don't think anyone here can deny that.

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:25 AM, sirch said:

 

i didn't even get that far. wall of sound finale sounds better than the beginning at least...?

Nah.

IDM lives in the tears of BoC fans.

IDM has infiltrated tons of modern & popular sounds in electronic music today. You hear it heavily in the popular "beat music" or "glitch hop" sound that's dominating. You hear a lot of more experimental dubstep producers borrowing ideas from the sound. Even shit like "Chillwave" rips tons of ideas and aesthetics from artists like Boards of Canada. IDM production and complexity was the source for a lot of techniques prevalent today in electronic music production.

watmm lives in the tears of yo303 haters

Warp ain't dead, they still have the best.

But the best don't release often and don't bring in the cash like the indie bands do.

ps. that song is crap and doesn't belong on my Warp.

Anthem for the butthurt ...

  On 1/6/2012 at 12:29 AM, YO303 said:

Every indie band sounds the same nowadays wtf??

false.

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:50 AM, oscillik said:

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:07 AM, jules said:

warp isn't dead. in fact this year may bring new boc, clark and grizzly bear with ae waiting in the wings. could be a good year for warp.

Oh I know Warp isn't dead, as is obvious by their more frequent new signings of late (which does seem to be much more regular than used to be the case). They're just catering to a different demographic now, since IDM seems to have...i dunno, kind of petered out.

 

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:22 AM, sirch said:

  On 1/6/2012 at 12:05 AM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:46 PM, sirch said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:25 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:17 PM, Candiru said:

It's okay. Nothing to scoff at, but you'd think Warp would want to sign stuff that isn't generic. Since that's supposed to be their M.O.

 

their M.O. at the moment seems to be 'stay afloat'

 

let's be honest - IDM is dead, and has been for a long time. only a few stalwarts are putting stuff out on Warp that is regarded as IDM. the label has changed focus, and we're not the target audience anymore.

 

however, they're still mostly an electronic / experimental label, so wtf is this shit.

they really put out some odd stuff every now and again. and this isn't odd in a good (interesting) way.

they are, like you say, just trying to stay afloat and current, which for most electronic/experimental/IDM fans makes them shit.

I dunno...doesn't really seem that way to me, from my perspective. But that's just me.

 

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:59 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:25 PM, oscillik said:

  On 1/5/2012 at 8:17 PM, Candiru said:

It's okay. Nothing to scoff at, but you'd think Warp would want to sign stuff that isn't generic. Since that's supposed to be their M.O.

 

their M.O. at the moment seems to be 'stay afloat'

 

let's be honest - IDM is dead, and has been for a long time. only a few stalwarts are putting stuff out on Warp that is regarded as IDM. the label has changed focus, and we're not the target audience anymore.

 

IDM in name only is dead, it's spirit lives on

 

I suppose that one is probably a subjective thing? Where does the iddum spirit live on?

 

c'mon man you know where it lives on. and it does live on.

 

and i meant i do think warp are shit, too, for signing bands/acts/groups like this.

but business is business, i suppose.

surely they could survive off of BoC, Aphex, Plaid, Pusher and Ae releases every few years... but the material isn't always forthcoming and regular anymore. basically because they've all gotten older. and if warp was just all Ae, Aphex and IDM, etc., every year after year, then we'd/people would all eventually get bored of that... as a lot of people did already (?)

i still love it, tho. the good stuff anyway. :)

 

no seriously, I don't know where it 'still lives on'. There's a few high profile artists still making and releasing stuff (and some that aren't releasing anything, but that's another discussion), and of course there is the massive amount of talent on sites such as WATMM. I dunno, maybe IDM or whatever you wanna call it has gone back to being a much more 'under the covers' kind of thing, since it lives on with the awesome guys and girls here and other places.

 

no you're right, i do know where it still lives on.

 

Warp has very definitely changed it's target demographic though. I don't think anyone here can deny that.

i don't know, though, they still seem to me at least to be an electronic label still. mostly.

i mean they put out Ae every 2 years with seemingly no fuss at all..?

and if they could release BoC and Aphex every year i'm sure they would.

we've had Plaid recently, at last... and Leila's coming soon. - 2 of the 'old school'.

  On 1/6/2012 at 2:51 AM, YO303 said:

IDM lives in the tears of BoC fans.

shut up,

BoC were never "IDM", anyway.

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:03 AM, Deepex said:

IDM has infiltrated tons of modern & popular sounds in electronic music today. You hear it heavily in the popular "beat music" or "glitch hop" sound that's dominating. You hear a lot of more experimental dubstep producers borrowing ideas from the sound. Even shit like "Chillwave" rips tons of ideas and aesthetics from artists like Boards of Canada. IDM production and complexity was the source for a lot of techniques prevalent today in electronic music production.

I see where you're coming from, but I just don't agree that just because a genre has elements of IDM in it, that it means IDM 'lives on' in that genre.

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:15 AM, Backson said:

Warp ain't dead, they still have the best.

Who said that Warp are dead?

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:36 AM, sirch said:

i don't know, though, they still seem to me at least to be an electronic label still. mostly.

i mean they put out Ae every 2 years with seemingly no fuss at all..?

and if they could release BoC and Aphex every year i'm sure they would.

we've had Plaid recently, at last... and Leila's coming soon. - 2 of the 'old school'.

Yeah you're right, that's a shit-ton of electronic music releases

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:03 AM, Deepex said:

IDM has infiltrated tons of modern & popular sounds in electronic music today. You hear it heavily in the popular "beat music" or "glitch hop" sound that's dominating. You hear a lot of more experimental dubstep producers borrowing ideas from the sound. Even shit like "Chillwave" rips tons of ideas and aesthetics from artists like Boards of Canada. IDM production and complexity was the source for a lot of techniques prevalent today in electronic music production.

true that. it's everywhere now. the mainstream is now regarding and doing what people here thought was awesome 10-20 years ago, only just now. funny really.

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:40 AM, oscillik said:

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:36 AM, sirch said:

i don't know, though, they still seem to me at least to be an electronic label still. mostly.

i mean they put out Ae every 2 years with seemingly no fuss at all..?

and if they could release BoC and Aphex every year i'm sure they would.

we've had Plaid recently, at last... and Leila's coming soon. - 2 of the 'old school'.

 

Yeah you're right, that's a shit-ton of electronic music releases

 

lol, but why would you want a shit-ton, anyway?

sirch, that phenomenon is not restricted to idm. it takes a while for things to catch on, for a style's popularity to gain momentum, and for the general public's ears to adjust.

also, ffs people, music styles don't "die," they just move out of the spotlight

  On 1/6/2012 at 3:43 AM, luke viia said:

sirch, that phenomenon is not restricted to idm. it takes a while for things to catch on, for a style's popularity to gain momentum, and for the general public's ears to adjust.

 

also, ffs people, music styles don't "die," they just move out of the spotlight

i know that. it happens with most 'underground' music.

IDM was always a bullshit term anyway. for pretentious kids and journalists.