New Tool record end of year?

no chance

  On 4/5/2018 at 11:49 AM, hello spiral said:

no chance

Maynard comin' for ya boy

What's he gonna do. croon ethereally at me?

You should be so lucky :)

just listen to king crimson

I'm hoping Tool is going to hire a blimp near my house.  And has an album cover that is a long foldout of every FB and Twitter remark about how long it has taken for them to make an album.

  On 4/7/2018 at 5:43 AM, Salvatorin said:

just listen to king crimson

Just listen to Meshuggah too.

  On 4/7/2018 at 8:23 AM, Haste said:

an album cover that is a long foldout of every FB and Twitter remark about how long it has taken for them to make an album.

There's not enough CD-grade cardboard in the world

  On 4/8/2018 at 4:39 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

 

  On 4/7/2018 at 5:43 AM, Salvatorin said:

just listen to king crimson

Just listen to Meshuggah too.

 

MASHUP and actually maybe

https://pitchfork.com/news/tool-will-teach-you-how-to-play-their-songs-on-new-tour/

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...an “intimate discussion of the inner workings of the band’s music,” going over the writing process and how the band performs their songs live. The sessions will culminate in an open Q&A session, as well as a meet 'n' greet. Tool are also bringing along a “traveling exhibit of unique memorabilia” for fans to view.​

lol okay

probably $500 per ticket

Mmmm intimate discussions.

Why are they weird like this

Can't Maynard do a wine tasting or something?

He has done sooooo much more since 10,000 days alone than Tool has done in their 28 year career. They should be a little embarrassed by that.

The other boys all do other things too to varying degrees. Carey plays shows all the time with other bands, Jones used to do lots of art, not sure if he still does, etc...Plus they're rich, have families, why not spend your time with loved ones when you can afford to? Can't blame them for that really.

But mostly just the quantity of Keenan's work doesn't compare to the quality of Tool's imo. Puscifer is occasionally pretty good but often just sorta jokey and often bland. A Perfect Circle's stuff past their first two albums has been weak as fuck imo, what little of it I've managed to sit through. Plus I mean, yeah, he's got a wine business and wrote a book, cool. He's got family and all too. Tool are old and slow and are very wrapped up in perfecting everything it would seem, to their detriment (very little of 10K Days was perfect, tbh half of it sounds like it was written in the studio last minute).

They did it to themselves though, perpetuating the mystery dark occult and aliens and drugs and mind expansion shit, well now they can't just write a few fucking rock n roll tunes and throw them out. Everything's gotta be a big fucking deal and wrought with hidden meanings and...yeah. Hope they've got this one last good one in them.

Man, I'd love some old-fashioned rock n' roll tunes ala Undertow.

i would actually prefer that they take 12 years and crowley themselves out and meander until they've captured satisfactory monsters, as opposed to just peeling off an album like so many bands do. no one else is going to do it.

  On 4/11/2018 at 8:44 PM, auxien said:

The other boys all do other things too to varying degrees. Carey plays shows all the time with other bands, Jones used to do lots of art, not sure if he still does, etc...Plus they're rich, have families, why not spend your time with loved ones when you can afford to? Can't blame them for that really.

 

But mostly just the quantity of Keenan's work doesn't compare to the quality of Tool's imo. Puscifer is occasionally pretty good but often just sorta jokey and often bland. A Perfect Circle's stuff past their first two albums has been weak as fuck imo, what little of it I've managed to sit through. Plus I mean, yeah, he's got a wine business and wrote a book, cool. He's got family and all too. Tool are old and slow and are very wrapped up in perfecting everything it would seem, to their detriment (very little of 10K Days was perfect, tbh half of it sounds like it was written in the studio last minute).

 

They did it to themselves though, perpetuating the mystery dark occult and aliens and drugs and mind expansion shit, well now they can't just write a few fucking rock n roll tunes and throw them out. Everything's gotta be a big fucking deal and wrought with hidden meanings and...yeah. Hope they've got this one last good one in them.

totally get what you're saying. I do like puscifer though, it just has to be taken at face value. The new APC that comes out next week should be interesting. I have stayed away from all the single releases but I am not expecting anything like those first two. Those were 10/10 albums.

But I cant really argue any of your points aux. Just waiting for that new double album special edition $200 vinyl preorder...

I love Conditions of My Parole so much - absolutely caned that album over the years. I really couldn't get into the one they released after though. I don't even remember its name. Are APC worth checking out? I remember listening to a couple of the old singles and thought they were a bit boring, are the album tracks any better? 

Anyway. Tool are rate good and I'm quite looking forward to their new album that will definitely come out before I die.

APC were great.  Very melodic, a lot of unconventional guitar work.  First album had a bit of a... mystical(?) vibe going for it.  I haven't heard it in well over a decade, probably sounds a bit dated now.  But it had a lot of really strong songs on it.  Second album was decent.  Then they released a shitty covers album and fucked off.

Yeah Puscifer is good, but also just sort of there mostly. Not to take anything away from them but it's just not something I can always hear and love and enjoy. But I get on a kick here and there and listen to Conditions and Vagina a lot, both solid albums.

APC is good, for the most, as ^stated the first two albums are all that's worth trying out. Second one has a few good tracks, was trying too hard and has some filler in it though. But it is good. First album is unique in a way but also a bit bland as well...very much a moody album full of some good alt-rock type hooks but a little dark and edgy ish. Lots of good songwriting on the first album, Billy Howerdel is talented no doubt, all the band that played are seasoned musicians as well... it's a touch self indulgent, as most good rock is of course. Just listen to a few tracks from each, you'll know pretty quick if you're into them or not.

Edit: anyway I was going to say I read some translated excerpt from an Italian interview with Tom Morello who said he's heard much of the Tool album (unsure if he's talking about demos or actual recordings, I'd assume demos) but without any vocals. He said...it sounds like Tool.

APC live sounds more like their recordings than any other band I've heard in concert.  Every tone was dialed in perfectly, playing was flawless, as were the vocals.  (This was right after the release of their first album.)  It's a shame they didn't keep it going while the going was good.

APC live is amazing. I actually like their second album better than the first. But they are both top notch.

Well, they're using a helluva mic for some recording. Gear snobs

AKG C12 from the looks of Adam Jones instagram...

Tool are the more recent Van Halen. I think they wrote the same way. Band jammed forward thinking tense astute clipped gear.

Then flamboyant singer improvised jester nonsense.