kids these days

Really? When you were 15, you told people their family committed suicide to get away from them? Bullying might be natural (although the way it was dealt with in the past was a swift box around the ears, if you spoke back to an adult), but that kind of psychological abuse is not natural.

 

She was probably fucking heartbroken at them using her son's suicide to mock her. That might explain why she wasn't able to respond "properly".

 

ussr - you made it sound like it was a common thing - if it's common, it's getting to be acceptable. That kind of shit would never have gone down in my high school/middle school. If some kid threatened sexual abuse against my family I would probably retaliate physically at that point.

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:44 PM, chenGOD said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:29 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:21 PM, chenGOD said:

Society might not allow those 13-15 to do those things, but mentally and physically, these are not children. They are still developing, yes that is true, but they are old enough to understand that actions have consequences.

 

How would you enforce hard labour? What if your child said no?

 

I would hope that when I have children that we have strong enough relationship that something like this would never happen, but if this situation did actually arise I would hope that they respect me enough through my shown leadership and teaching that they would obey and understand that A) they did something wrong B) this is a fair punishment and that they deserve it.

 

Other than that I can't really say. There are too many variables. It's like trying to imagine what you would do if someone pulled a gun on you.

 

lol if your 15 year old kid is making old women cry, you really think he or she is gonna have a change of heart and understand that physical labour is a fair punishment? If they don't understand that this kind of action is inexcusable at 15, there's little chance they will change. If they are behaving like this, you haven't shown much leadership or teaching as a parent.

I learned this lesson the hard way in grade 6 when I was 11. My daughter understands how much words can hurt and she's 7. I'm not saying I'm a perfect parent, because goddamn do I ever make some stupid mistakes when I parent, but I am at least making an effort to educate my kid well before she gets to the age of the kids in the video.

 

Like I said - for most kids, suspension from school is not a punishment, as there's almost no consequence - kids can't really be failed, so missing a few days is like a vacation. I'm willing to bet that most parents (from what I see of parent-teacher interaction in North America) would have reacted the same way - "oh they're just being children."

Not letting them participate in school sports is a good idea, like not letting them play on school teams (as we place so much emphasis on athletes).

 

When those kids started going "oh what, are you gonna cry now" to me that says there is some issue though.

 

Vamos - geez, your society sounds like a fun place to live....

 

In all fairness you can understand how much words can hurt, but we all have been guilty of saying things we regret. That's why we have apologies. I think concerning sadistic behavior boys are a different animal than girls. Our world is just a little more cruel generally speaking, expectations of us are different, and we are usually a little bit more callus because of it. That is why we are seen as the protectors, the hunters, the providers. We do the things that the more pure and sensitive side of society does not want or need to be exposed to. I know this is kind of archaic, but it is still a running theme in our society. I don't necessarily promote or support the idea though. I actually think society is starting to equalize in that respect.

 

I've learned quite a few lessons as well and it is only because I made those mistakes that I am the person I am today. I think screwing up is part of the process. The problem I have with overly harsh punishment is that it kind of ruins your ability to take anything positive away from your mistakes and diminishes your value to society.

 

I've also talked with a female friend that was bemused by the fact that guys she dated in high school were cruel dicks and treated women like shit, but they all seemed like somewhat normal productive members of society now and were in committed relationships. I'm not saying that they are decent now, but this is just an example of how people can actually grow up.

 

I personally hated OCS (on campus suspension) because it was boring as hell and I could only sit in one place the whole day. There are millions of different ways to punish someone though. It just takes a little creative thinking.

 

What I took from the video is that we aren't seeing the whole story. They talked about the book like there was some confrontation before the bullying as well or something. It is kind of irrelevant though.

 

For all we know this is a turning point in the lives of some of these children. They may have finally realized the error in their ways and I think it would be a shame if we fucked up a profound learning experience for someone by giving up on them. That is my real point. It is very easy to want to defend this lady and say, "Fuck these kids". I think the right thing to do is just handle the situation for what it is and I think I've already explained how.

 

The reason we are talking about them being children is because people are trying to go all in on these kids when really they are just being assholes. If this were an adult talking to this old lady then I think we would all be seriously be worried about these people.

 

I know for instance even as an adult I've said some really shitty things to my ex-girlfriend in the heat of moment due to my own short comings, but when she needs help or someone to talk to I'm the one she calls. So, I'm capable of being a complete asshole and I'm also capable of being a reliable, empathetic, and supportive person. I know now because my learned experiences that I should be more patient and respectful when dealing with people. Everyone has to learn sometime and every normal person usually is reminded of their missteps by their conscience.

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:45 PM, ussr said:

Yeah let's all get really huffy and completely ignore scientific research that has been done on these subjects.

 

Which scientific research says that 15 year olds aren't responsible for their own actions, and don't have any compassion for other people, because their brains aren't fully grown? I want to read that.

Edited June 22, 2012 by Npoess

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:50 PM, chenGOD said:

Really? When you were 15, you told people their family committed suicide to get away from them? Bullying might be natural (although the way it was dealt with in the past was a swift box around the ears, if you spoke back to an adult), but that kind of psychological abuse is not natural.

 

She was probably fucking heartbroken at them using her son's suicide to mock her. That might explain why she wasn't able to respond "properly".

 

ussr - you made it sound like it was a common thing - if it's common, it's getting to be acceptable. That kind of shit would never have gone down in my high school/middle school. If some kid threatened sexual abuse against my family I would probably retaliate physically at that point.

 

i didn't say it was "natural", whatever that means. i'm just saying there are always going to be people like that. it's not something that has increased in the last few decades. it's just more visible. i saw kids treat one another horribly all through my years at school. this isn't terribly surprising, although it is sickening.

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:52 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:44 PM, chenGOD said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:29 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:21 PM, chenGOD said:

Society might not allow those 13-15 to do those things, but mentally and physically, these are not children. They are still developing, yes that is true, but they are old enough to understand that actions have consequences.

 

How would you enforce hard labour? What if your child said no?

 

I would hope that when I have children that we have strong enough relationship that something like this would never happen, but if this situation did actually arise I would hope that they respect me enough through my shown leadership and teaching that they would obey and understand that A) they did something wrong B) this is a fair punishment and that they deserve it.

 

Other than that I can't really say. There are too many variables. It's like trying to imagine what you would do if someone pulled a gun on you.

 

lol if your 15 year old kid is making old women cry, you really think he or she is gonna have a change of heart and understand that physical labour is a fair punishment? If they don't understand that this kind of action is inexcusable at 15, there's little chance they will change. If they are behaving like this, you haven't shown much leadership or teaching as a parent.

I learned this lesson the hard way in grade 6 when I was 11. My daughter understands how much words can hurt and she's 7. I'm not saying I'm a perfect parent, because goddamn do I ever make some stupid mistakes when I parent, but I am at least making an effort to educate my kid well before she gets to the age of the kids in the video.

 

Like I said - for most kids, suspension from school is not a punishment, as there's almost no consequence - kids can't really be failed, so missing a few days is like a vacation. I'm willing to bet that most parents (from what I see of parent-teacher interaction in North America) would have reacted the same way - "oh they're just being children."

Not letting them participate in school sports is a good idea, like not letting them play on school teams (as we place so much emphasis on athletes).

 

When those kids started going "oh what, are you gonna cry now" to me that says there is some issue though.

 

Vamos - geez, your society sounds like a fun place to live....

 

In all fairness you can understand how much words can hurt, but we all have been guilty of saying things we regret. That's why we have apologies. I think concerning sadistic behavior boys are a different animal than girls. Our world is just a little more cruel generally speaking, expectations of us are different, and we are usually a little bit more callus because of it. That is why we are seen as the protectors, the hunters, the providers. We do the things that the more pure and sensitive side of society does not want or need to be exposed to. I know this is kind of archaic, but it is still a running theme in our society. I don't necessarily promote or support the idea though. I actually think society is starting to equalize in that respect.

 

I've learned quite a few lessons as well and it is only because I made those mistakes that I am the person I am today. I think screwing up is part of the process. The problem I have with overly harsh punishment is that it kind of ruins your ability to take anything positive away from your mistakes and diminishes your value to society.

 

I've also talked with a female friend that was bemused by the fact that guys she dated in high school were cruel dicks and treated women like shit, but they all seemed like somewhat normal productive members of society now and were in committed relationships. I'm not saying that they are decent now, but this is just an example of how people can actually grow up.

 

I personally hated OCS (on campus suspension) because it was boring as hell and I could only sit in one place the whole day. There are millions of different ways to punish someone though. It just takes a little creative thinking.

 

What I took from the video is that we aren't seeing the whole story. They talked about the book like there was some confrontation before the bullying as well or something. It is kind of irrelevant though.

 

For all we know this is a turning point in the lives of some of these children. They may have finally realized the error in their ways and I think it would be a shame if we fucked up a profound learning experience for someone by giving up on them. That is my real point. It is very easy to want to defend this lady and say, "Fuck these kids". I think the right thing to do is just handle the situation for what it is and I think I've already explained how.

 

The reason we are talking about them being children is because people are trying to go all in on these kids when really they are just being assholes. If this were an adult talking to this old lady then I think we would all be seriously be worried about these people.

 

I know for instance even as an adult I've said some really shitty things to my ex-girlfriend in the heat of moment due to my own short comings, but when she needs help or someone to talk to I'm the one she calls. So, I'm capable of being a complete asshole and I'm also capable of being a reliable, empathetic, and supportive person. I know now because my learned experiences that I should be more patient and respectful when dealing with people. Everyone has to learn sometime and every normal person usually is reminded of their missteps by their conscience.

 

you're empathizing with the bullies because you were one. explains so much.

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:48 PM, zaphod said:

for what it's worth i think the idea that there's a "bullying phenomenon" or whatever it's being called is complete nonsense.

 

Yeah, it is complete bullshit. One of the problems is that you get punished for standing up for yourself these days too. I remember this kid was messing with me on the bus once and taunting me into a fight. I told him, "If you aren't going to punch me then I'm not going to fight you". He punched me and we had a fight and neither of us ever talked to one another again, but we both got punished the same punishment. Also, all of my school buses have been equipped with security cameras since I was in middle school for exactly these types of incidents.

 

Another problem with bullying is the contradictory and confusing stance our society has on homosexuality and gay marriage. It is promoting hatred and bullying and tying the hands of authority figures in public environments like school.

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:58 PM, Npoess said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:45 PM, ussr said:

Yeah let's all get really huffy and completely ignore scientific research that has been done on these subjects.

 

Which scientific research says that 15 year olds aren't responsible for their own actions because their brains aren't fully grown? I want to read that.

 

i've read that 15 year olds don't have a fully developed frontal lobe so they tend to be more impulsive and make poor decisions involving their own personal safety vs how fun a situation looks. however, that doesn't mean that a 15 year old can't understand that it's wrong to be mean to other people and make them cry. fuck no. even 3 year olds know to give mommy a kiss if she looks sad, not laugh at her.

 

a lack of empathy can be indicative of abuse, autism (debatable) or a type of personality disorder. this is not the behavior that developmentally normal children have. i didn't watch the video, but i assume there was a "ring-leader" being mean to the old lady and then his friends were joining in?

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:59 PM, zaphod said:

it's just more visible.

 

Probably true, but anecdotally speaking, it sure as fuck feels more prevalent to me.

 

 

 

man, when i saw the title of this thread i was thinking something funny was gonna happen. thats the most deppresing thing ive ever seen. i couldn't even watch the whole thing. Fucking little bastards nowadays have no God damn morals or common courtesy. i think someone already said it and ill say it again, this is what happens when parents don't want to 'parent' their kids. they just want to be their friends. i always stand up and clap when i see a parent spank their kid in public if the're talking back and being direspective.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:05 AM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:48 PM, zaphod said:

for what it's worth i think the idea that there's a "bullying phenomenon" or whatever it's being called is complete nonsense.

 

Yeah, it is complete bullshit. One of the problems is that you get punished for standing up for yourself these days too. I remember this kid was messing with me on the bus once and taunting me into a fight. I told him, "If you aren't going to punch me then I'm not going to fight you". He punched me and we had a fight and neither of us ever talked to one another again, but we both got punished the same punishment. Also, all of my school buses have been equipped with security cameras since I was in middle school for exactly these types of incidents.

 

Another problem with bullying is the contradictory and confusing stance our society has on homosexuality and gay marriage. It is promoting hatred and bullying and tying the hands of authority figures in public environments like school.

dude i so agree with ya. you stand up for yourself and BAM. your deemed as bad or in some cases worse than the other. its just so fucked up.

Parents not parenting their kids, it should be pointed out, IS a relatively new phenomenon culturally speaking. In this economy, two working parents, often two overtime-working parents, don't raise their kids.

 

Who does?

 

Infinity Ward, Blizzard...well, Activision.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:00 AM, Hoodie said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:52 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:44 PM, chenGOD said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:29 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:21 PM, chenGOD said:

Society might not allow those 13-15 to do those things, but mentally and physically, these are not children. They are still developing, yes that is true, but they are old enough to understand that actions have consequences.

 

How would you enforce hard labour? What if your child said no?

 

I would hope that when I have children that we have strong enough relationship that something like this would never happen, but if this situation did actually arise I would hope that they respect me enough through my shown leadership and teaching that they would obey and understand that A) they did something wrong B) this is a fair punishment and that they deserve it.

 

Other than that I can't really say. There are too many variables. It's like trying to imagine what you would do if someone pulled a gun on you.

 

lol if your 15 year old kid is making old women cry, you really think he or she is gonna have a change of heart and understand that physical labour is a fair punishment? If they don't understand that this kind of action is inexcusable at 15, there's little chance they will change. If they are behaving like this, you haven't shown much leadership or teaching as a parent.

I learned this lesson the hard way in grade 6 when I was 11. My daughter understands how much words can hurt and she's 7. I'm not saying I'm a perfect parent, because goddamn do I ever make some stupid mistakes when I parent, but I am at least making an effort to educate my kid well before she gets to the age of the kids in the video.

 

Like I said - for most kids, suspension from school is not a punishment, as there's almost no consequence - kids can't really be failed, so missing a few days is like a vacation. I'm willing to bet that most parents (from what I see of parent-teacher interaction in North America) would have reacted the same way - "oh they're just being children."

Not letting them participate in school sports is a good idea, like not letting them play on school teams (as we place so much emphasis on athletes).

 

When those kids started going "oh what, are you gonna cry now" to me that says there is some issue though.

 

Vamos - geez, your society sounds like a fun place to live....

 

In all fairness you can understand how much words can hurt, but we all have been guilty of saying things we regret. That's why we have apologies. I think concerning sadistic behavior boys are a different animal than girls. Our world is just a little more cruel generally speaking, expectations of us are different, and we are usually a little bit more callus because of it. That is why we are seen as the protectors, the hunters, the providers. We do the things that the more pure and sensitive side of society does not want or need to be exposed to. I know this is kind of archaic, but it is still a running theme in our society. I don't necessarily promote or support the idea though. I actually think society is starting to equalize in that respect.

 

I've learned quite a few lessons as well and it is only because I made those mistakes that I am the person I am today. I think screwing up is part of the process. The problem I have with overly harsh punishment is that it kind of ruins your ability to take anything positive away from your mistakes and diminishes your value to society.

 

I've also talked with a female friend that was bemused by the fact that guys she dated in high school were cruel dicks and treated women like shit, but they all seemed like somewhat normal productive members of society now and were in committed relationships. I'm not saying that they are decent now, but this is just an example of how people can actually grow up.

 

I personally hated OCS (on campus suspension) because it was boring as hell and I could only sit in one place the whole day. There are millions of different ways to punish someone though. It just takes a little creative thinking.

 

What I took from the video is that we aren't seeing the whole story. They talked about the book like there was some confrontation before the bullying as well or something. It is kind of irrelevant though.

 

For all we know this is a turning point in the lives of some of these children. They may have finally realized the error in their ways and I think it would be a shame if we fucked up a profound learning experience for someone by giving up on them. That is my real point. It is very easy to want to defend this lady and say, "Fuck these kids". I think the right thing to do is just handle the situation for what it is and I think I've already explained how.

 

The reason we are talking about them being children is because people are trying to go all in on these kids when really they are just being assholes. If this were an adult talking to this old lady then I think we would all be seriously be worried about these people.

 

I know for instance even as an adult I've said some really shitty things to my ex-girlfriend in the heat of moment due to my own short comings, but when she needs help or someone to talk to I'm the one she calls. So, I'm capable of being a complete asshole and I'm also capable of being a reliable, empathetic, and supportive person. I know now because my learned experiences that I should be more patient and respectful when dealing with people. Everyone has to learn sometime and every normal person usually is reminded of their missteps by their conscience.

 

you're empathizing with the bullies because you were one. explains so much.

 

Well, I hope that you guys understand that I don't think that what these kids did is OK. I'm just trying to explain I think the punishment should fit the crime and we shouldn't overreact with generalizations. It is also always the most honest and open person that is the easiest to attack. I don't think I was ever really a bully though maybe a temperamental asshole at times. If I told you the things my ex did to me you would probably feel sick. Also, I empathize with everyone.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:09 AM, The Overlook said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:59 PM, zaphod said:

it's just more visible.

 

Probably true, but anecdotally speaking, it sure as fuck feels more prevalent to me.

 

 

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really? did no one here get beat up in school or watch fights happen? no one was verbally abused? stuff happened constantly when i was in school. just generally. kids and teenagers are mean spirited shitty people a lot of the time. doesn't excuse this instance or really any instance of behavior like this. this video in particular is a bit more psychopathic than anything i've seen, but i wouldn't be surprised if kids talk to one another like this all the time. in fact, i'm sure they do. says more about parents and the mind of a certain type of adolescent than anything about "the state of society" or whatever.

 

and if blizzard is raising your kids you're fucked. don't have kids if you can't raise them. no one is forcing you to.

Edited June 22, 2012 by zaphod

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:59 PM, zaphod said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:50 PM, chenGOD said:

Really? When you were 15, you told people their family committed suicide to get away from them? Bullying might be natural (although the way it was dealt with in the past was a swift box around the ears, if you spoke back to an adult), but that kind of psychological abuse is not natural.

 

She was probably fucking heartbroken at them using her son's suicide to mock her. That might explain why she wasn't able to respond "properly".

 

ussr - you made it sound like it was a common thing - if it's common, it's getting to be acceptable. That kind of shit would never have gone down in my high school/middle school. If some kid threatened sexual abuse against my family I would probably retaliate physically at that point.

 

i didn't say it was "natural", whatever that means. i'm just saying there are always going to be people like that. it's not something that has increased in the last few decades. it's just more visible. i saw kids treat one another horribly all through my years at school. this isn't terribly surprising, although it is sickening.

 

I wasn't replying to you with that post, and while I agree there isn't an epidemic, some of the shit that goes down now is much more extreme.

 

And I didn't get into fights past grade 6. The only real fight I saw in high school was when the "jocks" fought some racist skinheads.

verbal abuse? Some taunting sure, but nothing on this kind of level. And usually within the peer group you know? Not at fucking 60 year old grandmas..

the dudes from al qaida are right, most people suck

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:25 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

the dudes from al qaida are right, most people suck

 

You just got flagged by Homeland Security. and I just got flagged by Homeland Security for saying Homeland Security.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:19 AM, zaphod said:

and if blizzard is raising your kids you're fucked. don't have kids if you can't raise them. no one is forcing you to.

 

Trusting that you meant that generally and weren't aiming the comment at me personally, I'll agree with you. However, the reality is that we live in Idiocracy, dude. I'm worried about Other People's Kids. My wife and I, like any responsible parents, will be careful about moderating media saturation - whether it's video games, pr0n, or social media. Unfortunately, even kids with good parents are surrounded by a shit ton more kids with horrible or non-existent parents.

 

I get that you're all street and angsty, edgy, and anti-kid, etc. Even though it's cute, it's not a very thoughtful argument to say, "Shouldn't have had kids, fucker!"

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:12 AM, The Overlook said:

Parents not parenting their kids, it should be pointed out, IS a relatively new phenomenon culturally speaking. In this economy, two working parents, often two overtime-working parents, don't raise their kids.

 

Who does?

 

Infinity Ward, Blizzard...well, Activision.

true that, and the fact that divorce rates are huge here. no one there to parent, along with the kid doing stupid things for attention.

I think it's pretty idiotic to suggest that the internet, among other things, hasn't radically changed the landscape for parenting, or consequently, the behavioral patterns of younguns. What's next? Will somebody participating in this thread suggest that kids should be able to raise themselves?

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:32 AM, The Overlook said:

I think it's pretty idiotic to suggest that the internet, among other things, hasn't radically changed the landscape for parenting, or consequently, the behavioral patterns of younguns. What's next? Will somebody participating in this thread suggest that kids should be able to raise themselves?

 

I think they should be raised by wolves, or possibly gorillas.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:32 AM, The Overlook said:

I think it's pretty idiotic to suggest that the internet, among other things, hasn't radically changed the landscape for parenting, or consequently, the behavioral patterns of younguns. What's next? Will somebody participating in this thread suggest that kids should be able to raise themselves?

seriously, that new age parenting crap is so bullshit. "Let the kid make his own decisions" Fuck that, my house my rules.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:29 AM, The Overlook said:

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:19 AM, zaphod said:

and if blizzard is raising your kids you're fucked. don't have kids if you can't raise them. no one is forcing you to.

 

Trusting that you meant that generally and weren't aiming the comment at me personally, I'll agree with you. However, the reality is that we live in Idiocracy, dude. I'm worried about Other People's Kids. My wife and I, like any responsible parents, will be careful about moderating media saturation - whether it's video games, pr0n, or social media. Unfortunately, even kids with good parents are surrounded by a shit ton more kids with horrible or non-existent parents.

 

I get that you're all street and angsty, edgy, and anti-kid, etc. Even though it's cute, it's not a very thoughtful argument to say, "Shouldn't have had kids, fucker!"

 

it wasn't aimed at you, though that snide comeback seemed aimed squarely at me. i'd like it if people were more thoughtful about the idea of having children in the first place.

I mean, it's really pretty fucked from my perspective. One of my good friends basically threw in the towel on parenting when her son was barely 2. Two! Two years old. He was a bit of a feisty handful, so you know how she responded?

 

"Hello, Apple...will you please send me an iPad stocked with cartoons, video games, and everything even slightly noisy or colorful to distract him from having a hard time being, you know, a two year-old?"

 

We'd go over there and he'd be hanging out with us for like 3-4 minutes, the normal attention span for a 2 year-old. Then he'd start to go a little apeshit, but she'd keep talking, talking, talking, talking, ignoring him. Then he'd go totally apeshit.

 

BAM, iPad in hands. All good.

 

In case you're wondering, or in case you're retarded, there is research on this topic and lots of it. This sort of solution to a teething or generally fussy kid is a sure-fire way to creating, you guessed it, yet another retard.

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:42 AM, zaphod said:

it wasn't aimed at you, though that snide comeback seemed aimed squarely at me. i'd like it if people were more thoughtful about the idea of having children in the first place.

 

Not snide, just preemptively a dick in case you were actually the one who was preemptively a dick. It turns out you weren't, so...

 

What I mean to say is that I love you and I'm sorry.

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:50 PM, The Overlook said:

  On 6/21/2012 at 10:47 PM, chenGOD said:

Sorry if I sound preachy, I just don't want my daughter growing up in a society where this kind of bullshit is considered acceptable/normal behaviour.

 

I'll cop to having the same bias. This shit is fucking unacceptable, end of. Anything that even approaches justification or rationalization makes me want to A. punch a baby or B. verbally abuse a sad old fat lady.

 

you so crazy! lol

 

  On 6/21/2012 at 11:17 PM, zaphod said:

what shit parents these kids must have.

 

Yes.

 

 

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:36 AM, chenGOD said:

  On 6/22/2012 at 12:32 AM, The Overlook said:

I think it's pretty idiotic to suggest that the internet, among other things, hasn't radically changed the landscape for parenting, or consequently, the behavioral patterns of younguns. What's next? Will somebody participating in this thread suggest that kids should be able to raise themselves?

 

I think they should be raised by wolves, or possibly gorillas.

 

They are being raised by animals. There are too many apathetic humans having children. This is what happens.

 

I apologize to you Adieu for calling whatever I called you but to see this as normal is not right.

 

I was enraged after watching this.

 

My older brother bullied me to an extent. Some kids in middle school bullied me as well.

 

I have never been a bully but I do stand up to them on a daily basis working in retail.

 

When I say fight fire with fire I meant the older woman should have either been able to say whatever she wanted to the kids because they were saying psycho shit to her,

watching her fat fall out of a wound in her stomach,

 

FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!

 

so disturbing,

 

or Some other adult, if there would have been one on the bus should have stood up for her....

 

poor lady was by herself with a bunch of future fuck ups.

 

Pure primordial animal behaviour.

 

I am moving the fuck out of the US the first chance I get, or to a ranch.

 

This country is headed towards hell on earth.

 

The world is.

 

RAISE YOUR CHILDREN WITH LOVE NOT VIOLENCE!

 

 

USE BIRTH CONTROL!!!!

 

 

GIVE MORE ORAL SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

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